Lambda sensor need help buying one *pics now included *

[gavin_t]

Was getting fed up of replacing items on my car trying to stop it cutting out and idling like a dog so took it in for a diagnostics test.

Did a live recording on the car been driven and it was all normal barring a poor lambada reading so this is going to be my port of call.


I assume its on the manifold somewhere? Is it easily accsessable and worth cleaning up? Or should I just opt for a new one?

Gavin


Also didnt know these ecu's were adjustable the guy adjusted the idle speed so it idles a bit higher now and its smoother now too :A:




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[Tontsy]

car up in air... downpipe to cat area, cant miss it.

19mm spanner is all you need iirc.
and about 7 quid for a new one from someone like German and swedish.

[gavin_t]

£7 he was scaring me saying they were about £80 :S

[Tontsy]

where did you go to get it tested?
i get all my parts on trade, so im crap with prices lol....

yeah 60-80 bucks for a general cost from a garage fitted would sound about right.
but one fit it yourself, its a bolt and a plug.
two, buy it from someone like german swedish *can shop online and such* and pay ALOT cheaper mate.

[gavin_t]

Yer he said he would fit it but I said I would do it myself.


Just checked out GSF and it looks about £21 for me to buy :)

Will try and get out of work early on monday and go down to the nearest branch.



I supose this should tie in with my cutting out etc as it only happens after full open throttle use.

[Tontsy]

yeah mate, lamba can cause cutting out , misfire, and crap . . .

they do have an online shop and deliver too, if that helps.
not many people knwo they do online too :y:

oh the joy of online-shopping! everyone doing it!

[gavin_t]

Yer but from work to there is only 20mins and they are open til 5.30 so should just make it :D


I have a later VTS are there two types?


although If I give them the year I am sure they will know :)

[gavin_t]

right took the sensor out today for a nose and to loosen it up ready for tomorow.


Gave it a blast with some carb cleaner and then took it for a rag around and it seems fine.
For the sake or £21 should I still get a new one?


Gavin

[vtr_chris90]

car up in air... downpipe to cat area, cant miss it.

19mm spanner is all you need iirc.
and about 7 quid for a new one from someone like German and swedish.

7quid, i wish they was that cheap lol

i work for cantral auto supplies, and i have worked for gsf and it costs more thanb double that to buy from supplier

your looking about 30quid plus vat minimum from gsf

Yer he said he would fit it but I said I would do it myself.


Just checked out GSF and it looks about £21 for me to buy :)

Will try and get out of work early on monday and go down to the nearest branch.



I supose this should tie in with my cutting out etc as it only happens after full open throttle use.

did you get that price from their site? cause im im pretty sure they prices dont include vat on the site if i remember right, so if that price is right your looking at about 24/25 quid maybe depending on the branch, plus it may be diff when you go in, say that price is from their site, cause they will more than likely try to charge their counter price which is sometimes a lil higher than internet price

but downside is the ones from gsf arent always decent ones mate, it could be a good one or a shit one, cause there systems are shit, from CAS its about 50quid for a bosch one i think lol

[gavin_t]

Right GSF cant get one apparently anyway :|

Obsolete so they cant order it in either :S



Been looking on other sites like euro car parts and there are two or three different ones that all are listed for my car!


My car

Model SAXO VTS 16V

Engine Size 1587 cc

Engine Model NFX (TU5JP4)

Manufactured 1999

Registered 30-12-1999

Transmission MANUAL

Colour ALUMINIUM/SILVER


Loads listed here

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Citroen_Saxo_1.6_1999/p/Car-Parts/Body-and-Exhaust/Exhausts/Lambda-Sensors


Some more expensive then others even for the same brand



Help please :drink:

[wall-e]

Canterbury branch of GSF keep them for my gti.. they wanted just over 100 notes for a precat sensor (my 97 doesn't have a post cat one).

I've seen genuine Bosch sensors going on ebay BIN/new for £50 or so.

[gavin_t]

oh hang so there are two sensors?

I thought there was only one?


*becomes even more confused*

[BobC]

There are two on models made from 2001 onwards to comply with stricter emissions limits. So your 1999 mk2 will have only one.

[gavin_t]

where is the other one? I just want to check I definatly dont have two.

So if I do indeed only have one does that narrow down the selection of ones it could be on the list on eurocarparts?

[gavin_t]

Right finally got what I thought was the right one ordered today but its turned out to be the wrong one :wall:

What I got told was the right one

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/5206/plug3.JPG



What I have got on the car

Connector into the loom

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/5206/plug_2.JPG



Connector on my old lambda

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/5206/plug.JPG




Why is this simple task proving so difficult :wall:

[Liam_]

That sensor isn't for a Saxo by the looks of it. :wacko:

[gavin_t]

so all of the ones you have seen look like the connector on my car not the new plug?

[Liam_]

so all of the ones you have seen look like the connector on my car not the new plug?

Yeah mate. Admittedly all the ones I've seen have been 2001+ but I doubt they'd change the connector.

Above the thread, the lambda looks far too thin too. Been given one for a totally different car imo.

[Thecherry0121]

my lamda is thin ngk one but has the right connector i think thats what all ngk ones are like tbh but you definately have the wrong one order one for a 98 it will be the same as your original but gets rid of the confusion of 3 plug and single plug cars

[gavin_t]

what is all this single plug and 3 plug business :S


So if I order one for a 98 spec it should be ok?


Maybe 99 (the year of my car) was the switch over year.

[Liam_]

what is all this single plug and 3 plug business :S

He means ECU - earlier Saxos have a single plug ECU, later have a 3 plug. I don't see why a lambda from a single plug and 3 plug wouldn't be interchangeable. Had a pre-CAT lambda from a single plug on my 3 plug VTR with no problems.

Send/ take that lambda back and ask for the right one for your car dude.

[gavin_t]

yer I will just annoying that I have taken time out of work three times now to get one :n:


Taken a pic of the connector to show them too