0-100 times vts

[Mr_X]

what kind of 0-100 times have you got out of your vts?
and also with what mods.

thankooo

[Finchowned]

On the track it took about 16 seconds. With breathing mods.

[Mr_X]

On the track it took about 16 seconds. With breathing mods.

just breathing mods?

i have got apx 17 secs, thats with cams + beathing mods.

[Jorge-]

I was actually going to do this later (on my private runway)

16 seconds is too fast though, I am expecting somewhere around the 20 mark

[Mr_X]

I was actually going to do this later (on my private runway)

16 seconds is too fast though, I am expecting somewhere around the 20 mark

iirc standard is 20-22 secs.

[Finchowned]

I said about :p was probs nearer 20 in hindsight :D

[Mr_X]

I said about :p was probs nearer 20 in hindsight :D

LOL yeah, mine roughly too

[dannygti]

well, 20 seconds is about right for a breathed on vts.

[Jorge-]

I did mine today, its a stripped VTS. The dials are out slightly, so at 105, the GPS reads 100. With a slight wheel spin at the start.. it made a 19 seconds. On the dial it took 16 to 100, but that is wrong

And 6.5 to 60.

That is breathing, straight exhaust and rear end stripped..

[jamsey]

il do mine 2nite

[L16_vts]

17 seconds is about rite with cams.

[benwh555]

Depends on accurate you are with the stopwatch as well. Lots of factors in this one tbh. But should make some interesting reading.

[DusheR]

G-tech Pro meter? Might not do 0-100's actually, Ill have a look see if mine does.

[MiniGibbo]

I did mine today, its a stripped VTS. The dials are out slightly, so at 105, the GPS reads 100. With a slight wheel spin at the start.. it made a 19 seconds. On the dial it took 16 to 100, but that is wrong

And 6.5 to 60.

That is breathing, straight exhaust and rear end stripped..

Seems a little optimisitc imo for just taking out 2xkg i may be wrong though.

For a saxo id say 0-80 is better for pub chat even the 16v's seem to drop off once you get to the higher end of 3rd.

[spiderxjz82]

13.8 for me :P (Not a saxo before someone quotes me)

[rwillis89]

14.1 for my vts

[normy_knights]

my car 0-100 never!!

[AndreeVTS]

0-100 mile?!

i took 13/14seconds with beathing and exhaust ?!?! something wrong?!

[Jorge-]

Absolute bullshit.

My quarter mile times were over 15 seconds and I was just hitting 90mph.

Any vts which can hit 100 in 13-14 should be doing a quarter mile in a lot less

[Jorge-]

#Sorry I missed someones reply up there.
I dont know if to post my video, due to it being to 100 and I don't want to look like a cock. But PM me if you want to see it. This is the times though..

0-10 = 0.5
0-20 = 2
0-30 = 3
0-40 = 4
0-50 = 5
0-60 = 6.5
0-70 = 9
0-80 = 11
0-90 = 14
0-100 = 17
0-105 = 19
0-110 = 22
0-115 = 25

[AndreeVTS]

Absolute bullshit.

My quarter mile times were over 15 seconds and I was just hitting 90mph.


sorry?!?! My quarter mile times is 14.898 seconds and I was just hitting 91.30mph...

I think 20seconds is too much...

[Mieran]

13.8 for me :P (Not a saxo before someone quotes me)

He said 0-100 not 0-60 :p

[Jorge-]

sorry?!?! My quarter mile times is 14.898 seconds and I was just hitting 91.30mph...

I think 20seconds is too much...

So, how did you get 14 seconds to 100, when you do a 1/4 mile in 15 seconds at 91?

[Mieran]

Jorge whats your actual 0-60 time?

You said your speedo is out by 5mph so does that mean you're somewhere in between 6.5 and 9 secs?

[Jorge-]

I have tried this a few times, and going off the pod times.. It is around 6.5-7 seconds.

Also have a few videos of a 30-70 (From another forum, big thread) of not much over 5.5 seconds :O

[AndreeVTS]

So, how did you get 14 seconds to 100, when you do a 1/4 mile in 15 seconds at 91?

ahahahhahah you're right, the morning I'm too fucked up!
whatever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7T3USkElRM

[Jorge-]

That does seem very impressive :)

Are your dials true or slightly out like mine? If they are true, I make it 15ish.

But if they are out, I make it another 2-3 seconds.. You can see how much the power drops off over 90ish though

[AndreeVTS]

i agree....but seems strange, in italy , saxo €3 with beathing and exhaust decat are all so...missing hp :)

[Jorge-]

Well, I had mine on a dyno, it rolled a 115 aha.

Although, I have since changed the exhaust to a Magnex which seemed to pick up better than the Ashley, I think I need to get it on the rollers again, but I reckon it isnt making more than standard.

[AndreeVTS]

?! English 115hp = 115hp Italians?!
you are 1600 16v 120hp?

[Jorge-]

Yes, 120 standard.

115.7 at 6500rpm

Around 103 ft/lb torque at 4300

[AndreeVTS]

engine overworked??

[Jorge-]

No idea, given it a full service, new exhaust. Hopefully got a few ponies back :)

[AndreeVTS]

So assemble an another engine :)
In england is wonderful that law allows you to do many things and many cars are incredible!! :fcuk::fcuk::fcuk: rollbar, tu5jp4, 4 throttle valve...
:wall:
in italy decat is a criminal act......you can't do anything..theoretically :P

[Jorge-]

Or, sell it for an MX5.. RWD is the way forwards..

[McPikie]

I added a sunstrip, a 5" jap backbox, lowered it, and bent the wing mirrors in.

I got 14.86 seconds to do 2miles and back to zero]


BRAAPPP

[adam19]

whats the average torgue of a vts ??

[AndreeVTS]

whats the average torgue of a vts ??

saxo 16v stock 145Nm

[stinkycheese]

i read a big article on how a 1/4 mile terminal velocity is a better indication of your cars 'real world' performance.

[carter]

I did mine today, its a stripped VTS. The dials are out slightly, so at 105, the GPS reads 100. With a slight wheel spin at the start.. it made a 19 seconds. On the dial it took 16 to 100, but that is wrong

And 6.5 to 60.

That is breathing, straight exhaust and rear end stripped..

Yes, 120 standard.

115.7 at 6500rpm

Around 103 ft/lb torque at 4300



you get a 0-60 time of 6.5 and you only got 115.7. what a you timing it with a stop watch!?

somethings not right there

[adam19]

mines running 140bhp- but would say my 0-60 is around 6.5seconds

although cant say iv timed my 0-60

[Finchowned]

you get a 0-60 time of 6.5 and you only got 115.7. what a you timing it with a stop watch!?

somethings not right there

More likely to be the rolling road figures that are wrong actually.

I bet if you put the same car on ten different rolling roads across the country you'd have a suprising variation in results; a range of about 115-140ish I'd imagine.

Using a stopwatch to time a 0-60 run is probably a just as reliable calulation method as a rolling road flywheel figure.

[carter]

More likely to be the rolling road figures that are wrong actually.

I bet if you put the same car on ten different rolling roads across the country you'd have a suprising variation in results; a range of about 115-140ish I'd imagine.

Using a stopwatch to time a 0-60 run is probably a just as reliable calulation method as a rolling road flywheel figure.

that is one possibility, or like said above the engine has had a hard life and lost some horses!

but if it was a proven 115 you would not see a 0-60 time of 6.5 secs not in a saxo anyway.

[L16_vts]

wot if you had 120bhp tho and the saxo only weighed like 750kg?

[Finchowned]

that is one possibility, or like said above the engine has had a hard life and lost some horses!

but if it was a proven 115 you would not see a 0-60 time of 6.5 secs not in a saxo anyway.

Agreed, you wouldn't see a 0-60 time of that, hence the rolling road figure is wrong.

[Mochachino]

my mate got a measured 6.35 second to 60 at trax. His just breathed.

[Jorge-]

6.5 is from filming the dials on a set of nearly 10 runs. Then taking the video into some editing software to measure the exact times. And taking an average of it.

I am not bothered anyway, figures are for fags down the pub. I will openly say my car is less than standard, rather than most who big up their powers to 140 from just an exhaust

[L16_vts]

take it his car is gutted db_sax?

[MiniGibbo]

Seeing as this has turnt into a 0-60 debate somwhat started by my self lol.

0-60 is 100% irrelevent on track as you never do a 0-60, you do a rolling start onto track. What you want is 30-70 thats a far better indecator of how fast a car is.

stop watch, phone clock etc are all way off the only real thing you can use that i know of and for the life of me cant remember what it is called is like a road angle.. race logger or sumit iirc does lap times average speed top speed 0-60 0-100 etc.

[carter]

my mate got a measured 6.35 second to 60 at trax. His just breathed.

do you believe thats correct though? thats a long way of the standard with just breathing mods.

[Finchowned]

I am not bothered anyway, figures are for fags down the pub. I will openly say my car is less than standard, rather than most who big up their powers to 140 from just an exhaust

Totaly agree dude! :afro:

[Mr_X]

i dont really care about 0-60, im more interest in 0-100.

so to compare with other vts.

[L16_vts]

wot cams you running mr_x? any weight loss?

[Mr_X]

wot cams you running mr_x? any weight loss?

no weight loss, but i have ph3's.

[L16_vts]

try stripping it out will make more differance. am running 708s untill i decide wot spec am after.

[jallen]

i broke down half way through and the aa truck cud only go 30 so i will give it another go 18 hours and counting ;)

[benwh555]

Like i said it would make interesting reading, well its made me laugh at least. There are so many factors involved in this its unreal. I mean tyres, i cant believe no one has thought about them, they make a massive difference and are just one part of it all. But its good to read peoples views on what gives a real indication of performance even though the thread was just about 0 - 100 times.

[Toad]

my mate got a measured 6.35 second to 60 at trax. His just breathed.

O'rly?

Who was this then?

[L16_vts]

woz this ures toad?

[Toad]

I made that time, yes. But I don't know who DB_Sax is, nor is my car just using breathing mods...

[carter]

I made that time, yes. But I don't know who DB_Sax is, nor is my car just using breathing mods...

LMAO, knew it was aload of bollox tbh! 6.3s with just breathing mods!:geek:

[Mochachino]

O'rly?

Who was this then?

Il try and find a pic, he looks t the forums but isnt a member and dosent post.

I didnt go to trx but there was some 0-60 timed run thing there?

His cars mods are:

Enclosed red filter
4-2-1 manifold
Powerflow backbox
Silenced decat section
Stripped

It got a better time than Josh' bodied Westcoast S. :S

http://photos-b-9.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs044.snc1/4410_88533902738_514677738_1906513_8017412_n.jpg

http://photos-c-9.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs059.snc1/4530_90221112738_514677738_1928226_5602991_n.jpg

[cooper-44]

Get on his site m8

http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=comparison

[L16_vts]

suppose the light boot and bonnet will make a differance, wunder how much it weighs?

must go well running those times with just breathing mods.

[Toad]

Proof? :D

I would have liked to have more than one go TBH. Need to work on launching... Not really my thing though.

[adam19]

6.5 is from filming the dials on a set of nearly 10 runs. Then taking the video into some editing software to measure the exact times. And taking an average of it.

I am not bothered anyway, figures are for fags down the pub. I will openly say my car is less than standard, rather than most who big up their powers to 140 from just an exhaust

i dont big my saxo up and its been rolling roaded at 3 different garages for the simple fact of people didnt believe what its running. its running about 140bhp, if it was less i would say if it was more i would say- what is the point in saying * oh my cars running 140bhp , when its really running 120bhp, thers no point what so ever- my vts could have more done to it then i know as the man who had it before modded it abit but dont know what, so it aint really bigging it up unless i say my 90bhp vtr is running 120 with an air filter and 40+ bhp with the fogs on :panic::panic: thats bigging it up- you`ll find there are many saxos running 140bhp with mani decat full exhuast air mods ect....but then again some may only run 125bhp with all them- every saxo is different and every saxo like every car is all differently looked after service wise- al depends wether it gets ragged 7xtimes a week or 1x a week, it all makes a difference:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:

[MiniGibbo]

Get on his site m8

http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=comparison


According to that the vts factory spec does 22.3 so anyone under a genuine 20 imho is doing well.

That relly does show though how poor the saxos are above 80 as i previously said two pages ago. When as an comparison the vts has a similar 0-60 to my bmw (only 0.3 behind) but is FIVE seconds behind 0-100.

[Finchowned]

i dont big my saxo up and its been rolling roaded at 3 different garages for the simple fact of people didnt believe what its running. its running about 140bhp, if it was less i would say if it was more i would say- what is the point in saying * oh my cars running 140bhp , when its really running 120bhp, thers no point what so ever- my vts could have more done to it then i know as the man who had it before modded it abit but dont know what, so it aint really bigging it up unless i say my 90bhp vtr is running 120 with an air filter and 40+ bhp with the fogs on :panic::panic: thats bigging it up- you`ll find there are many saxos running 140bhp with mani decat full exhuast air mods ect....but then again some may only run 125bhp with all them- every saxo is different and every saxo like every car is all differently looked after service wise- al depends wether it gets ragged 7xtimes a week or 1x a week, it all makes a difference:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:

Hey chill out! Nothing wrong with bigging you unrealistic RR figures up dude :p

[Mr_X]

According to that the vts factory spec does 22.3 so anyone under a genuine 20 imho is doing well.

That relly does show though how poor the saxos are above 80 as i previously said two pages ago. When as an comparison the vts has a similar 0-60 to my bmw (only 0.3 behind) but is FIVE seconds behind 0-100.

mines a genuine 17 seconds. as some one else did, i had a friend video it, then edit it to show a the 0-100 time.

This wasnt to compare to other cars tbh, i have had a powerful BMW, but i am now looking for an elise as imo thrills lay in other areas.

Edit to add: weight reduction in a saxo makes a big difference imo, and this thread wasnt about "pub" talk. I was after 0-100 times as this is less likely to be affected by error as 0-60 or 80 will be.

To finish, after a few mod's they dont tail off at 80mph, my car tails off after 100mph. Anyway, we didnt buy a saxo for its straight line speed.

[Toad]

Very true Mr X.

[Mochachino]

suppose the light boot and bonnet will make a differance, wunder how much it weighs?

must go well running those times with just breathing mods.

Had it weighed, cnt remeber what though now.

Proof? :D

I would have liked to have more than one go TBH. Need to work on launching... Not really my thing though.

Dont know if hes got any proof, if he has, il post it up. That as his first go, n rekons he could have improved it!

[Mieran]

What is the 30-70 and 30-100 times on a VTS?

[jpsaxo]

It got a better time than Josh' bodied Westcoast S. :S

Theres alot of variables guys, FD in the gearbox makes a big difference, obviously the driver (Sam was driving mine who is an 8v monkey), tyres, weight of the car etc etc

Ghey Lining is gay anyway we all know that hence why i've never done it or been interested in it, if you cant carry the speed round a corner then you can have 500bhp and still be slower than a Micra round a track who can carry his speed round the corners

[Jorge-]

When I first got the car I managed a 30-70 of under 6 seconds. But since fitting the Magnex that has dropped.

Again, you will all think I am talking bollocks, but I don't talk shit about my car, I just face the truth.

My car was weighed at 900kg dead, since I have removed 10kg of unsprung weight with wheels, and another however much the backseats and doorcards weigh too.

Tyres: 2x Toyo T1S on the front, Uniroyal Rainsport 2s on the rear
Wheels - OZ Superleggeras
Mods - Raceland with larger green filter, Raceland 4-2-1, Magnex straight through with decat

[L16_vts]

jpsaxo ure right ave been up crail once and it woz ok. nice to compare the acceleration to other types off cars thats all...

ave never been on track but ad love to, i think it would be so much of a buzz.
theres many cars i think the saxo/106 would lose on the straights but catch them on the corners which sounds so fun.

[Toad]

The less powerful the car, the more it's about the driver IMO.

[adam19]

what gears do you use to 30-70

2nd then into 3rd

or

3rd thughout ??

[dannygti]

ive done 0-100 in 7.5 seconds :D not joking either.

[Jorge-]

2nd and 3rd.. 3rd alone starts too low

[adam19]

thanks bud- am guna try that some time and see what i can get :D

[MiniGibbo]

The less powerful the car, the more it's about the driver IMO.


You cant deny it takes skill to throw a high powered rwd around track with a livly back end.

I do agree the less powerfull the car the more you skill takes present but hot hatchs are so predicable with the hint of lift off oversteer.

[Toad]

You cant deny it takes skill to throw a high powered rwd around track with a livly back end.

I do agree the less powerfull the car the more you skill takes present but hot hatchs are so predicable with the hint of lift off oversteer.

Very true. But not the point I was trying to make.

I was trying to say that if you have a car with a lot less power, i.e., a Saxo, compared to a bigger car with 300+ bhp, you've got to drive it well to keep up, as you can't get away with just hammering it on the straits.

[Mochachino]

Got the proof for you toad from Trax

6.35seconds

Mods are:

Red filter enclosed induction
Miltec 4-1
Powerflow exhaust
stripped inside: dash/sound proofin remains, all other plastics removed.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/dan_sax/12092009598.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/dan_sax/12092009596.jpg

[scholesyy]

what gears do you use to 30-70

2nd then into 3rd

or

3rd thughout ??

why wud u use third? mine does 75 in second?:wacko:

[Toad]

That's impressive DB_Sax!