130bhp from a vtr.. how ???

[shady22]

my mate has a mk2 vtr, all its got is full supersprint exhaust system 4-2-1 manifold and a oil cooler and it got 130bhp on the dyno, it beats vts's all day long, could the car be cammed??

[col101]

Could be. More likely a badly set up dyno as it would need fairly substantial work to reach 130bhp

[shady22]

it was dyno'd at french car show this year, when he drives it fast then stopes the idle revs up and down on its own and i heard that meens its cammed

[Aron]

the dyno at fcs was pretty shit! you would no if the car was cammed as it would not idle at all.

[DannyBSaxo]

if it idles up down up down then its probably cammed

[Ryan]

130bhp off an 8v deffo screams aftermarket cam, or rollers as accurate as a loo roll and cotton wheel

[col101]

Wrong. If it "hunts" on tickover, that could mean almost anything. "If" it's cammed and running rough, then it's not been remapped so will never make 130bhp that way.

[Mr_P]

Mine idles like a bag of shit at the moment.

Standard cams. :P

[shady22]

we going to take off the rocker cover have alook, because this car is quickkk..must be cammed

[Aron]

Wrong. If it "hunts" on tickover, that could mean almost anything. "If" it's cammed and running rough, then it's not been remapped so will never make 130bhp that way.

Wrong! just becasue it does not idle perfect does not mean its not remapped. mine could not be mapped any more perfect without a stand alone ecu yet it still bounces on idle.

[Ryan]

Wrong! just becasue it does not idle perfect does not mean its not remapped. mine could not be mapped any more perfect without a stand alone ecu yet it still bounces on idle.

should hear mine idle lol.

chug chug chug ;)

[shady22]

it beat a decat 106 gti aswell, cant get my head around it

[frankie]

i think 130 from a vtr is quite easily achievable.

there was a rallye running 130hp still an 8v

[Ryan]

i think 130 from a vtr is quite easily achievable.

there was a rallye running 130hp still an 8v

yeah but wasnt on standard cam.

Ive seen 145bhp 8vs.

[Aron]

should hear mine idle lol.

chug chug chug ;)

must be that you ent had a remap man!lol

sandy has managed 160 out a 8v

[frankie]

yeah but wasnt on standard cam.

Ive seen 145bhp 8vs.

didnt reliase we where on about standard cam's

one's bad.

the bloke i bought my manifold off, think his 8v was running 160-165, he said he done a track day not long back and got 6 mpg.....

[Ryan]

sandy has managed 160 out a 8v

so 150 on others rollers then ;)

[Aron]

lol yea more then likely, still a good result seeming it is missing 8v's

[Ryan]

lol yea more then likely, still a good result seeming it is missing 8v's

John from GMC had over 150 out of a 1.4AX many many years ago, and iirc it was standard inlet to (NA)

[Kev_Vtec]

my vts ticks over chug chug aswell thinking this is a normal fault?. since i got the headgasket fixed etc etc, its also remaped.
chugs like a train lol

[Aron]

john is a legend but standard inlet? as in the crappy plastic thing they come with?

[Ryan]

john is a legend but standard inlet? as in the crappy plastic thing they come with?

well single butterfly.

AX racing will have a bit more info on different 'race' engines john churned out a few years ago.

although again gmcs rollers have a rep for reading a touch high (but johns work has a rep for being better than most)

[Aron]

o yea he has a brilliant rep.

[tipvts]

id say your mate has a defo cammer iv seen loads of vtr reching 130 nearly all cammed

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

id say your mate has a defo cammer iv seen loads of vtr reching 130 nearly all cammed

Isnt as easy as you may think though mate, my old spec was pretty big and was still only pulling about 125-130, probably could have managed more with a better remap tbh... an idea:

1.6 8v Silvertop Engine
Piper 285 Camshaft
Port & Polished Stage 3 Head
Simota Induction Kit
Competition Head Gasket
Competition Springs & valves
Vernier Pulley
Hi-Flow Heads Lightened & balanced flywheel
Oil Breather Filter
4-1 Stainless Steel GMC Manifold
Peco Stainless Steel Dual-Exit Exhaust System

[tommyhilla]

I dont think you would get 130bhp from just a cam. I had a 1.6xsi with upgraded cam (cant remember type) R6 bike carbs and lightened pulleys and that was only just over 140

[jordysaxobby]

the dyno at fcs was pretty shit! you would no if the car was cammed as it would not idle at all.

cammed cars do idol ino sum one with a cammed vts tht idols

[titchster]

It needs to be a pretty big cam to reach that with an 8v.

I reckon it might just be a mix of a mild cam, and an over reading dyno.

[starletcal]

we going to take off the rocker cover have alook, because this car is quickkk..must be cammed

Lmfao... NO

how do you own a 240brake glanza? is it still on stock turbo ye?

[vtrlogan]

Isnt as easy as you may think though mate, my old spec was pretty big and was still only pulling about 125-130, probably could have managed more with a better remap tbh... an idea:

1.6 8v Silvertop Engine
Piper 285 Camshaft
Port & Polished Stage 3 Head
Simota Induction Kit
Competition Head Gasket
Competition Springs & valves
Vernier Pulley
Hi-Flow Heads Lightened & balanced flywheel
Oil Breather Filter
4-1 Stainless Steel GMC Manifold
Peco Stainless Steel Dual-Exit Exhaust System

it was running 117.3bhp at fly when i got it lol..

the cam wasnt even working.. as the timing was out by miles, but with my de-cat, raceland with green induction, crapy ported throttle body and raised limiter. its running 128bhp at fly lol..

Also the fly wheel was skimmed by .2 off a kg and now its 4.7 instead off the 5.5 standard :D

Hid tuning reckon it hasnt been mapped, and if it had its been mapped to run standard cam.. so hasnt been done very well! hopfully pred should be happening then will be dyno remap ;)

[shady22]

Lmfao... NO

how do you own a 240brake glanza? is it still on stock turbo ye?

no its not stock, its got pretty much everything done to it, forged, bigger turbo the lot, i didnt do the work though i brought it how it is

[Lew_C]

should hear mine idle lol.

chug chug chug ;)

lol same as mine, thinks its a 1.5 N/A Diesel until it hits about 3k haha

[pjm300]

so 150 on others rollers then ;)

lol

penis

[starletcal]

no its not stock, its got pretty much everything done to it, forged, bigger turbo the lot, i didnt do the work though i brought it how it is

Bigger turbo? t66?

Lmfao.. i take it td04, whats your spec?

[col101]

Wrong. If it "hunts" on tickover, that could mean almost anything. "If" it's cammed and running rough, then it's not been remapped so will never make 130bhp that way.

Wrong! just becasue it does not idle perfect does not mean its not remapped. mine could not be mapped any more perfect without a stand alone ecu yet it still bounces on idle.

must be that you ent had a remap man!lol

No where did I say that a not perfect idle with a cam means it's not been remapped. I said that hunting (not chugging) could be any number of faults, and only after you said that a cammed car would not idle at all which I took to mean it stalls with no throttle?

[shady22]

Bigger turbo? t66?

Lmfao.. i take it td04, whats your spec?


Wiseco Racing Low Comp Forged 74.5mm Pistons
Wiesco Racing Piston Rings, Pins and Clips
Scat Forged Conrods with ARP 2000 Connecting Bolts
2mm Metal Headgasket (unsure if Zep or Cruise)
New Complete Cambelt/Tensioner/Idler Kit
New Head Bolts
New Toyota Full Engine Gasket Set
New Toyota Oil Seals
New Water Pump
New Toyota Oil Pump
New Oil Pressure Switch
New Thermostat
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New Uprated ACL Bearings ( Mains, Bigends and Thrusts)
Crank Reground(if needed) and Polished
Block Professionally Rebored and Crosshatch Honed
Cylinder Head Professionally Rebuilt
Block chemically Cleaned and Painted
Rocker Cover Chemically Cleaned and Painted
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NGK Iridium HR8 Plugs
TRD Red Leads
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WEPR TD04 Evolution Mani
WEPR TD04 Decat
TD04 Turbo
Tial 38MM Wastegate
Screamer Pipe
WEPR FMIC
HKS Replica Dump Valve

[saxokid100]

dyno at fcs was pretty shit!!:bash:

[starletcal]

Wiseco Racing Low Comp Forged 74.5mm Pistons
Wiesco Racing Piston Rings, Pins and Clips
Scat Forged Conrods with ARP 2000 Connecting Bolts
2mm Metal Headgasket (unsure if Zep or Cruise)
New Complete Cambelt/Tensioner/Idler Kit
New Head Bolts
New Toyota Full Engine Gasket Set
New Toyota Oil Seals
New Water Pump
New Toyota Oil Pump
New Oil Pressure Switch
New Thermostat
New Toyota Valve Stem Oil Seals
New Uprated ACL Bearings ( Mains, Bigends and Thrusts)
Crank Reground(if needed) and Polished
Block Professionally Rebored and Crosshatch Honed
Cylinder Head Professionally Rebuilt
Block chemically Cleaned and Painted
Rocker Cover Chemically Cleaned and Painted
Sard 330cc Injectors
NGK Iridium HR8 Plugs
TRD Red Leads
Blitz Nur Spec R

WEPR TD04 Evolution Mani
WEPR TD04 Decat
TD04 Turbo
Tial 38MM Wastegate
Screamer Pipe
WEPR FMIC
HKS Replica Dump Valve

haha silver one? i remember it for sale... toytuning engine.. be carefull.. lol

[KamRacing]

dyno results can be taken with a pinch of salt.. if you mod the car and compare results on the same dyno you can gain some meaningful comparisms..

I used to organise RR days for another car club and the figures for the first 2 at one particular RR were pretty much spot on what we'd expect. Then RR number 3 a car mag came down. The dyno was put on shootout mode and everyone's car improved lol..

I through those slips away as my car came in at 217bhp.. 12 up on the previous day

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

it was running 117.3bhp at fly when i got it lol..

the cam wasnt even working.. as the timing was out by miles, but with my de-cat, raceland with green induction, crapy ported throttle body and raised limiter. its running 128bhp at fly lol..

Also the fly wheel was skimmed by .2 off a kg and now its 4.7 instead off the 5.5 standard :D

Hid tuning reckon it hasnt been mapped, and if it had its been mapped to run standard cam.. so hasnt been done very well! hopfully pred should be happening then will be dyno remap ;)

Really? So have you sorted out the cam timing now then? A nice improvement in power there, sounds like what it should have been running in the first place tbh. The figures i had were from the previous guy who owned it :( once its mapped it should be lurvly... you still holding out for the pred then?

[shady22]

haha silver one? i remember it for sale... toytuning engine.. be carefull.. lol

na its black..darren burwash built it mate, had it awile never had any problems yet