View Full Version : lets try again vtr block to vts cylinder head conversion
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 18:02
rite hopefully second time lucky. im doing a vtr block to vts cylinder head conversion.
i have a mk2 vtr block.
Question = which vts cylinder head should i use MK1 or 2.
all internal components WILL be uprated i.e
high comp pocketed pistons rods
lightened balanced crank
cat cams
all bolts arp's.
etc etc money no object project will be done when its done. please dont just tell me to get the vts block because that would be the easy option i want to do it this way.
cheers
gouldy87
1st October 2009, 18:03
why do it like this, it will be very very expensive and make minimal difference
Colin
1st October 2009, 18:04
Im pretty sure the stud pattern on the head is different too fella
gouldy87
1st October 2009, 18:07
plus if your previous thread had been locked and you start another exactly the same you will get an infraction/ ban. dont believe me? search for "cam timing and mapping" by me and ginge
KamRacing
1st October 2009, 18:08
why are you doing it this way? is it in order to comply to some sort of race series regulations? Otherwise i can't see the point
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 18:13
it wasnt closed because of the question lol. it wont be expensive as i was building a high spec vts engine anyway. stud pattern is the same. block is identical. i no that i have to move cam tensioner but the hole is ther for it already tapped out. and i no i have to change crank pulley. oh forgot to ask do i have to change the crank sensor to a vts 1.
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 18:17
nope not for race series just building a fast road car. probably do a few track days tho. i live on an island there are no vts engines on the island. plus why not do it this way its the exact same block its going to be the same finished product at the end. even if i got a vts block it would be getting ripped apart and start from scratch again anyway.
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 18:42
anyone no this answer
LeeM
1st October 2009, 18:58
the coolant passages dont match between the head and block. it just doesnt work mate.
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 19:05
but how can they not its the exact same block. VTR block + VTS block = hmm wot do u no THE SAME.
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:08
ive done the same but with low comp pistons so i know where your coming from easy to do and can be done ...dont think people understand why buy a new bloke when everything is nearly the same ...my thread has a few pics of how its done i did mine because i had a fucked vts block but a awesome vtr one so swaped everything over what i needed
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:09
the coolant passages dont match between the head and block. it just doesnt work mate.
yes they do
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 19:11
cheers m8. which vtr block / vts head did you use.
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:12
Im pretty sure the stud pattern on the head is different too fella
stud patten is same.. vtr gasket different but thats for oil pressure as the vts block has different piston oil sprayers and need more pressure
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:13
i used a vtr and vts mark 1 engines single plug ecu
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 19:18
thats rite bout the oil pressure did you uprate the oil pump. is the pump in the mk1 chain driven like the mk2. im thinkin of just going for it with th mk2 vts head and see what happens.
LeeM
1st October 2009, 19:23
but how can they not its the exact same block. VTR block + VTS block = hmm wot do u no THE SAME.
why bother making a thread if you know everything. prick
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:30
oil pump is same mark 1 and two are chain driven ...the block of a mark vtr1 is the same as vts mark 1 ok whats different i shead some light on this as you seem to be getting some silly info
crank is same as vtr bore stroke are all the same
piston rods same two
whats different
oil piston jets different
piston heads different
cam belt side you need the crank cambelt pully
and swap all the tenchioner over
but the block all ready has the taped holes for it
as there the same
ok now the dip stick hole needs needs to be made bigger and drill out for crank breather
when you put it back together use the vts head gasket not a vtr one that will sort the pressure out for the pistion oil feeds
hope this helps
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 19:33
look lee why say sumthing when you quite clearly dont no what your talkin about.
anyway i will answer your question even tho your the prick. its just i wasnt sure if you could mix n match the heads with the blocks between th different mk's
boabVTR
1st October 2009, 19:37
cheers matey thats helped loads.
Mochachino
1st October 2009, 19:49
http://www.peugeotclub.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=33515
sliderz
1st October 2009, 19:55
cheers matey thats helped loads.
no problem glad to help
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