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Sophia_Bush
18th October 2009, 13:36
Right this thread is purely for pics of what setup you are running this is purely give others an idea of what parts are needed and were things go. The following pics are from my old 1.1 turbo and 1.3 turbo, If you are going through a build now not sure on something please start a separate thread as this is just for reference.

A few parts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/2e44_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/dfe1_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/INTERCOOLERPIPE_U_225.jpg

DIY adapter manifold setup

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/TurboView3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/TopView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DriverJoin.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/semidone.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/FinalSideFit.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DownView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/TopEngineView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/TurboandAngryRhinoPipe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/Intercoolerlocation.jpg

Cituning Setup

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00119.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00120.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00124.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00144.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00145.jpg

With different I/C setups compacter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00146.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00155.jpg

More general pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00150.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00150.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00165.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00175.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/OilFeed.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/FrontView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/downpipenreturn.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/reducerview.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/newrad.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/downview-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/allplumbedin.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/frontish.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/Side-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/Overview.jpg

Component form

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00258.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00257.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00256.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00284.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00345.jpg

Sophia_Bush
18th October 2009, 13:37
On a 1.3 rallye engine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/merryboostday.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00275.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00272.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00264.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00287.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Turbo%20Bits%20and%20New%20Parts/DSC00284.jpg

16v Cituning setup with MF2 and sigcon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/PICT0180.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/DSC00723.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/DSC00722.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/DSC00720.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/DSC00721.jpg

ryanmt
18th October 2009, 14:02
Rough pic of how a 200sx S14 turbo fits onto the 16v head (port spacings are close but not perfect) I think an S13 might be a closer fit.

http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_5dd0380e1bfd3945df11cb0dcc93d96e.jpg

Standard 200sx T25 (S13) pics for refrence

http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_d5512af9bc2ff2226439bb0065c9c3b8.jpg
http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_72dfdeda72687a309143e92fa166173f.jpg
http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_1b8f3d99ea4ce8ff63427398f57f6b18.jpg
not sure if they will be useful to anybody but oh well!

sexoturbs
18th October 2009, 14:10
when you tune the mf2 you will see about 9 silver boxes at the top of the chip that have yellow arrows in them. under each on will have a numer wich is the rpm. when you car is running at 2000rpm the chip will light up at 2000rpm you will then look at your afr guage ad se if it is running rich or lean. u then turn the yellow arrown up or down at 2000rpm to give it more or less fuel. you then do the same thing with each rpm.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/th_MOV00001.jpg (http://s970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/?action=view&current=MOV00001.flv)

i had the mf2 chip fitted inside the car.. makes it easier for tuning.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00032.jpg

in this pic you can see i am holding the white and black wire, you conect both of these to a earth point

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00033.jpg

in this pic i have my diagnostic port. their will be a grey wire (3583) on this port that you have to connect the yellow wire to or it can also be connected to wire 425 that comes off the ecu

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00034.jpg

in this pic you cas see my inlet pipe (elbow) you can see where i have the fith injector connected to it then a little further down you can see where the map sensor pipe was connected to it.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00035.jpg

hit is a close up of my fith injector. if you look just ubove it on my shassy you can see where i have earthed my 2-bar map sensor i just scratched off the paint and bolted it down

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00036.jpg

this picture just shows you the hole where i ran all my wires through

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00038.jpg

sexoturbs
18th October 2009, 14:13
hmm lost half the pics :S lol

DJVTR
18th October 2009, 14:27
oh so this was the big plan lol

awsome will elp filter out alot
is there any way you can go into detail as regards to the oil lines to and from the turbo ?
and how to modiry th sump . basicly how you set up everything to do with oil :y:

sexoturbs
18th October 2009, 14:32
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC00029.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae185/sexoturbs/DSC0000028.jpg

manc
18th October 2009, 14:32
A few pics taken from my progress thread

Cituning Garrett GT17 turbo, this turbo is also used on Saab's
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/turbo1.jpg
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/turbo3.jpg
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/turbo5.jpg

Turbo outlet sizes
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/turbo2.jpg
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/turbo4.jpg

Little 10row oil cooler
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/oilcooler2.jpg

Pico injectors, right is 226cc and left is 496cc, I have a set of 296cc taken from a Clio172 but havent got any pics of those, apart from the colour of the collar there is no difference.
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/inj3.jpg
http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/inj2.jpg

Hope the above is of some help to the guys who are boosting.

Sophia_Bush
18th October 2009, 14:50
more pics the better as said any questions make a separate thread as this one is purely for guide and ref pics only. Plus the big guide thread is the place to ask more questions but have a search of the forum as most of what we covered has been asked its just some people are to lazy and slack arsed to move their mouse and press a few buttons to look for what they need

LeeM
18th October 2009, 15:31
great thread guys!

blackie_2k5
18th October 2009, 16:45
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/blackie_2k5/saxopart1.jpg
cituning/miltek manin from cituning turbo kit, can be mixed and matched with other parts as i am, will take t2/25/28 turbo chargers
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/blackie_2k5/saxopart1010.jpg
this is a sigcon 3 unit...used with the mf2 and fifth injector set up also know as a signal modifier helps the stock ecu understand boost, meant to have a blue cover on but i never got one when i bought it from gav:) notable diffrence from a sigcon 2 as it has 2 multi cables coming from it as opposed to 1 also autogauges boost gauge reading psi

Bcup
18th October 2009, 18:08
Here's a portuguese Saxo CUP (VTS) it's called CUP here in Portugal.
With turbo and Andy Predator.

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0373.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0374.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0376.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0377.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0378.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0379.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0380.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0381.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0383.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp290/Brunocup/HPIM0384.jpg

It's not finished yet.

manc
18th October 2009, 20:07
Bcup, you have there somthing that will quite special when its done, Nice work :y:

How do the 496cc injectors workout for idle & driveability?
Does your turbo not have any water cooling feeds?

ManC

PS: Get that filter replaced and get it moved to a higher position thus avoiding road muck. :)

Bcup
18th October 2009, 21:56
Bcup, you have there somthing that will quite special when its done, Nice work :y:

How do the 496cc injectors workout for idle & driveability?
Does your turbo not have any water cooling feeds?

ManC

PS: Get that filter replaced and get it moved to a higher position thus avoiding road muck. :)


Thanks a lot ManC.

Andy just tune the idling on the predator today (with the patiente we all know that Andy has) and the car is idling perfectly. In the road I don't know because I don't try it yet. Going to try the car this week on the road and then I let you know.
No, the turbo don't have water cooling.
As for the air filter I only put it down there for try the car.
Maybe after I will move it to a higher place.

Franc3z
8th November 2009, 14:50
Very good Bcup :y:

The saxo runs in portugal ?

Abraços

Geznay
8th November 2009, 20:23
my old setup - mf2, t25 turbo, custom made manifold & downpipe, fmic, mocal oil filter relocation and cooler kit

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009143.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/22092009117-1.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009141.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009134.jpg

Franc3z
8th November 2009, 20:26
How bhp make you 106 Gti with this kit ?

Geznay
8th November 2009, 20:30
never actually had it rolling roaded, mf2 was setup live mapped rather than on rollers. estimate approx 200-210bhp due to the way it performed on track

ryansaxo2010
15th September 2010, 13:13
my old setup - mf2, t25 turbo, custom made manifold & downpipe, fmic, mocal oil filter relocation and cooler kit

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009143.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/22092009117-1.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009141.jpg
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww22/geznay/09102009134.jpg

sorry to re open and bother you ... but what manifold is that? ... does any 1 know what standard manifolds i can use that fit the vts head and are simple enough to adapt a turbo to ? ... i relli dont want to be cutting my 4-2-1

AXracing
15th September 2010, 18:42
sorry to re open and bother you ... but what manifold is that? ... does any 1 know what standard manifolds i can use that fit the vts head and are simple enough to adapt a turbo to ? ... i relli dont want to be cutting my 4-2-1

It says its a custom made manifold.

As for what standard manifold you have already asked this in other threads and it was answered.

ukgaz
15th September 2010, 23:47
One I can add

PICO IWP069 Injectors

http://ukgaz.net/images/saxo/DSCN1304.JPG

blackie_2k5
16th September 2010, 20:09
think someone should link this into the saxo/106 turbo guide thread as theres alot moreinfo and pics iirc then this one, on phone atm or id don it myself :)

Ross
17th September 2010, 08:34
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Turbo%20build/IMG_0203.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/IMG_0049.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10817.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10818.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10805.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10791.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10776.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/Car%20Parts/SDC10852.jpg

jsdvtr
19th September 2010, 13:11
Sophia bush- Wheres the small oil filter from on the quicksilver from?

LeeM
19th September 2010, 16:26
renault 5 i think

Ross
19th September 2010, 18:01
Sophia bush- Wheres the small oil filter from on the quicksilver from?

Filter to use is a fram ph5796. iirc, it's a renault part by default as posted above (5 turbo, 11 turbo etc).

http://www.carsupplies4u.co.uk/product/PH5796_Fram_Oil_Filter_(WL7254)_A64721

But if you plan to run a oil cooler (highly recommended with a turbo setup) then just add in a remote filter housing and use a regular filter. But that adds some cost of course.

3cott
19th September 2010, 18:13
Some very nice pictures in this threah :drool:

Here is a few bits i collected when i was going to bolt a bine on my vts

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0327.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0326.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0329.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0342.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0334.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0335.jpg

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af183/sc0tt_2009/Photo0333.jpg

tweeqd
19th September 2010, 19:19
adapted manifold from 2004
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/IM_A0028.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/05-06-01_17-54.jpg

2.5 inch custom janspeed exhaust
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/Janspeed1.jpg

custom pro alloy intercooler and rad
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/040920101147.jpg

Sophia_Bush
23rd March 2011, 12:18
to the top

bump as many people not bothering to search again

vtr-j
20th April 2011, 07:47
Im doing a turbo conversion on my mk1 vts, but one thing that i was wondering is, does the standard rad/fan stay or have people replaced it with a different rad/fan?

manc
20th April 2011, 07:59
Replace the OE fan with: -

http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/SPALfan.jpg

& use these 'through' rad fan fittings :y:

http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/106gti/fan_mounts.jpg

Hope that helps.

ManC

Ross
20th April 2011, 08:59
Im doing a turbo conversion on my mk1 vts, but one thing that i was wondering is, does the standard rad/fan stay or have people replaced it with a different rad/fan?

Depends on the setup. If you're using a manifold that has the turbo located quite far forward (DP Engineering etc) then you'll need to relocate the rad forward of the slam panel and because of that, you can't use the standard rad as the header tank thats built in gets in the way. The cheapest solution is to use a 106 diesel rad and a seperate header tank. If you do that, you'll need to use a slimline fan (as shown above).

There's been turbo setups done using the standard rad and fan, but generally the manifold doesn't impede the fan because the manifold has been bodged in the first place. ;)

RustySkull
20th April 2011, 09:05
I hate that the bay looks such a mess :(

Gareth_R
14th May 2011, 16:11
Becoming a pretty popular route

Decomp plate
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb136/richardsgareth333/55e713b8.jpg
Fitted
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb136/richardsgareth333/a8b91b60.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb136/richardsgareth333/94e86b26.jpg

dannygti
14th May 2011, 16:32
ive got plenty of pics from mine. if you tell me what sort of pics you want ill put them up

blackie_2k5
14th May 2011, 21:06
just whack them all in danny, just an ideas cloud thread really, give ppl some insight and show them whats available, ive actually got a few more i can add now

*goes for a scout about

ianpettifer
3rd June 2011, 09:15
Whats the limit of the 172 injectors?

blackie_2k5
3rd June 2011, 09:25
what size are they

Ross
3rd June 2011, 09:36
Whats the limit of the 172 injectors?

Clio 172 injectors are 250cc/min at 3 bar. (IWP042)

manc
3rd June 2011, 18:36
Whats the limit of the 172 injectors?

Where to look for appropriate part number & colour of collar :y:

http://www.zen16052.zen.co.uk/new-vts/turbo/forsale-injectors1.jpg

luthor1
3rd June 2011, 18:53
I thought IWP042's were rated at 283cc/min@3bar?

Andy

Ross
3rd June 2011, 20:25
I thought IWP042's were rated at 283cc/min@3bar?

Andy

I took my figures from Renault. Googling for it shows everything from my figures, right through to 330cc. Weird. Who knows!