150 horses

[nickwillyhams]

right i no these questions are asked all the time but i just want a 'mature' answer as of the best way to get my engine to around 145-150@fly obv theres mani, system and decent filter but then.......? proven answers like, with recommended products that people are actually using if you no what i mean, :drink:

[Ryan]

decent cams and a remap/standalone ecu.

708s/ph3s

[blackie_2k5]

or you could get an electric supercharger........ but thats only if you looking for serious power......... oh and dont forget youll an uprated foo-foo valve if going this route :) havent seen anyone ask for one for a while though........hhhhhhhhhhm are they going out of fashion????

[JamesR]

or you could get an electric supercharger........ but thats only if you looking for serious power......... oh and dont forget youll an uprated foo-foo valve if going this route :) havent seen anyone ask for one for a while though........hhhhhhhhhhm are they going out of fashion????

He asked for a mature answer...?

[AlexB]

my setup

bmc cda
newman ph3 cams
piper mainfold
supersprint centre
piper backbox

152@fly on chipwizards rollers after wayne mapped it up

thats the kinda stuff you need to look into

[nickwillyhams]

or you could get an electric supercharger........ but thats only if you looking for serious power......... oh and dont forget youll an uprated foo-foo valve if going this route :) havent seen anyone ask for one for a while though........hhhhhhhhhhm are they going out of fashion????

yeah man i already got a foo-foo valve :homme:

[nickwillyhams]

cams an a remap next then need to get me a head to rebuild in the mean time tho if anyone no's of any goin?

[MotorSportWorld]

On the 106GTi demo car that we used at Piper that had:

Piper manifold
Piper De Cat
Piper System
Piper BP270H Fast road cams
Piper Verniers
Longman Ported head (Std Valve Sizes)
Mapped at Longman (Std ECU)
Pipercross Viper induction kit

That made just over 150bhp on Longmans Rollers

Then we fitted Throttle Bodies to the car later on, also fitted a set of Piper BP285H cams and a mappable ECU and saw figures around 185bhp on stock bottom end.

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards

Garry

[nickwillyhams]

ported head!? hmmm im sure i could get this done at work if i knew what to ask for, whats involved?

[JamesR]

Double post, sorry.

[JamesR]

ported head!? hmmm im sure i could get this done at work if i knew what to ask for, whats involved?

I want to get my head ported lol

And google it :)

[nickwillyhams]

google it? i was after something specific to the vts engine i thought this would be the best place to ask!?

[KamRacing]

probably on a near standard engine its best to just get a bit of work round the valves to improve flow.

[JamesR]

google it? i was after something specific to the vts engine i thought this would be the best place to ask!?

Google is the best place for that question. I'm not totally clued up on porting a head other than smoothing parts etc

[blackie_2k5]

He asked for a mature answer...?

you the sensibility police now? was having a joke dude, seen you post plenty of them before, you dont see me slapping your hand for it do you????? the poster took it as a joke so why couldnt you? sorry to the poster for my gross imaturity i hope i have no offended you in anyway and see you have the answers you require so all is good:y: and sorry to anyone else that werent graced with a sense of humour;) that is all

[JamesR]

you the sensibility police now? was having a joke dude, seen you post plenty of them before, you dont see me slapping your hand for it do you????? the poster took it as a joke so why couldnt you? sorry to the poster for my gross imaturity i hope i have no offended you in anyway and see you have the answers you require so all is good:y: and sorry to anyone else that werent graced with a sense of humour;) that is all

Fair enough mate lol

A wrote it before i seen his reaction :homme:

[luthor1]

On the 106GTi demo car that we used at Piper that had:

Piper manifold
Piper De Cat
Piper System
Piper BP270H Fast road cams
Piper Verniers
Longman Ported head (Std Valve Sizes)
Mapped at Longman (Std ECU)
Pipercross Viper induction kit

That made just over 150bhp on Longmans Rollers

Then we fitted Throttle Bodies to the car later on, also fitted a set of Piper BP285H cams and a mappable ECU and saw figures around 185bhp on stock bottom end.

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards

Garry

Garry,

what Injector/FPR combination are you using at 185bhp?

Andy

[MotorSportWorld]

Garry,

what Injector/FPR combination are you using at 185bhp?

Andy

Andy

Im not sure to be honest. Longman did the spanner work on this engine and we supplied the newly designed parts. Had many different profiles fitted and tried before the ones we settled upon :)

I know longman fitted a adjustable FPR but am unsure as to brand or setting.

Kind Regards

Garry

[raunchz]

On the 106GTi demo car that we used at Piper that had:

Piper manifold
Piper De Cat
Piper System
Piper BP270H Fast road cams
Piper Verniers
Longman Ported head (Std Valve Sizes)
Mapped at Longman (Std ECU)
Pipercross Viper induction kit

That made just over 150bhp on Longmans Rollers

Then we fitted Throttle Bodies to the car later on, also fitted a set of Piper BP285H cams and a mappable ECU and saw figures around 185bhp on stock bottom end.

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards

Garry

Might have to get myself some headwork :P

[nickwillyhams]

you the sensibility police now? was having a joke dude, seen you post plenty of them before, you dont see me slapping your hand for it do you????? the poster took it as a joke so why couldnt you? sorry to the poster for my gross imaturity i hope i have no offended you in anyway and see you have the answers you require so all is good:y: and sorry to anyone else that werent graced with a sense of humour;) that is all

i forgive u :hug:

[gavin_t]

If its a vts lump then


exhaust
manifold
cams
filter
map

will see that figure quite nicely

[Ryan]

How long ago was this work done with longmans as last i heard richard was no longer trading..

[KamRacing]

It was only this year longmans died a death

[nickwillyhams]

do raceland do a 4-1 as kam only list a 4-2-1? wanna get a supersprint system with the small tail pipe, kam did a system but now they list it with their own backbox, anyone no if these are any good?

[Ryan]

racelands are 4-2-1 only...

[nickwillyhams]

oh right well from what i understand the 4-2-1 gives a wider spread of power whilst a 4-1 give more top end power!? am i right so far?? the kind of power im after is really top end anyways, i dont drive a lot an the drivin i do is country lanes dual carriage ways etc where im reving the bollocks off it anyways. therefore i thought along the lines of a high pressure exhaust system i.e. the supersprint race one, manifold im unsure atm but pretty sure of a 4-1. then some light headwork done retainin the standard valve sizes, then setup on a rr. like i said i dont mind the low/mid power staying like standard really just so long as a get a decent high range from it all. does this sound about right then? cheers

[nickwillyhams]

oh and the ph3's i forgot them oops

[Ryan]

its not just 4-1 vs 4-2-1 bore size etc etc...

just get a decent 421 like the supersprint its proven to work well

[carllo69]

Is there much difference between the raceland and the supersprint manifolds?

[Proffitt]

Is there much difference between the raceland and the supersprint manifolds?

Build quality is the main factor.
I know people that has had to re-position the holes for the raceland manifold to fit onto the head.
I had the supersprint and there was no problem atall with fitting.

I would recommend the supersprint highly.

[KamRacing]

the supersprints joins are all properly welded and finished off inside the manifold to give a smooth gasflow. The raceland is not finished off this way.

Kev

[KamRacing]

do raceland do a 4-1 as kam only list a 4-2-1? wanna get a supersprint system with the small tail pipe, kam did a system but now they list it with their own backbox, anyone no if these are any good?

The backbox is designed to be a direct replacement. It has the same bore internally as the aluminised steel supersprint backbox. The tailpipe is only marginally bigger so not to affect the pulse tuning. Its good :D

[carllo69]

Thanks mate read that on the site but is it really worth paying nearly double, would the gains be the same for each?

[nickwillyhams]

you get what you pay for then basically