Which injectors for boost?

[jsdvtr]

Anyone know anything about delphi 332cc injectors? Been offered them for boost setup. How much are 172 injectors?

[sexoturbs]

their is plenty you can use mate but has been arguments about using the picos on a vtr. but i know they use bosch. i spoke to pug10ff and they said not to use them in a vtr just the S. they use 440cc green top injectors i think their 558's on the vtr so thats what im going for :y:

did you search? http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257800

[jsdvtr]

ive got vts in car now mate.

[raunchz]

What sort of power you looking at as 332cc injectors could be too small?

[jsdvtr]

Well the guy said good for 230bhp. I will be running low boost about 7psi.

[Rob-C]

230bhp on a vtr at 7psi lol i wish!!

[Rob-C]

didnt read thread mate even a vts i think you will be pushing to get 230bhp from 7psi lol

[jsdvtr]

Well ben vts is running 5psi and running at 180bhp on standard injectors i think still.

[Rob-C]

but does he have any other mods cams etc also what management you going for

im boosting my R with about 6-7psi hoping to get near the 150 mark

[ben_vts]

Dont wory about me boys. My injectors turned up today ha.. And yes jamie you made a very good dicision dropping an S in there lol. 230bhp is very achievable in my opinion. I got 180 on standard ecu and injectors. Now with them both upgraded iam hoping to be around the 200 mark. But iam not to bothered because i know she is one quick son of a gun anyways haha..

[Rob-C]

what was you using before you upgraded ecu mate? mf2?

im hoping to drop an S in mine before i turbo it tbh lol depends what cash is like once i have got everything i need for the turbo conversion i will get the lot all bar the manifold

[sexoturbs]

ive got vts in car now mate.

did you not read that thread i posted? pico injectors are for the vts http://racetronix.biz/items.asp?Mc=MM think ben payed £180 in total of that site and their new :y: if you try get them new anywhere els they are £250 so best to get them off that site think they are 495cc

[ben_vts]

I was just using standard ecu. Not a good choice ha.. Sorted a standalone asap though after getting the car back. Yeah they are 180 brand new. I bought them off Ukgaz but they are new and havnt been used. His turbo project fell through. I was talking to him this morning and on standard fueling etc, they are good for upto 280bhp which is well within the limits of a highly tuned S lol. They 491cc.

[jsdvtr]

Ive been offered some delphi 332cc injectors, new which are meant to be good for 230bhp and at £100 new seems a very good price.

[sexoturbs]

yeah sounds like a deal :) but what if you forge your car later on and run alot more boost.. will need injectors again so may aswell pay the extra 80 and when it comes to upgrading later on you wont have to change again.. my opinion but yea them injectors new for £100 sound cool if they do fit :y:

[jsdvtr]

Well from a guy off 106oc who has them and said hes changed plans. And he has a gti.

[ben_vts]

I would take saxoturbs advice. Thats why i jumped in the deep end and went for 491cc. As i dont plan on staying at 200-230bhp eh.

[jsdvtr]

Well im wanting pred ecu but dont know if i will have a full turbo setup for a while. How long will it be on offer for?

[ben_vts]

What the pred.? As ar as i know its not on an offer but i havnt checked like. I think i payed 450 for the ecu. 150 for the wideband and 50quid set up. So its fairly cheap and there is nothing but good reports from it mate.

[jsdvtr]

Would i be able to get it say if got cams put on car and got mapped and you said about having the software to remap it on a laptop in car. Would be able to map it from having cams to turbo setup myself or would need to get done properly? Ye think i might just get a better set of injectors tbh, may see if can get some 172s cheap.

[3cott]

Im gunner be running pice 496cc

[jsdvtr]

What sort of power are 172 injectors good for?

[jsdvtr]

Anyone know if skyline 440cc injectors fit a vts as mate said can have some for nowt if do. Need to know asap as was looking at getting some others if they dont fit that are up forsale.

[raunchz]

wouldn't harm to have them for free !! Worth a try !!

[jsdvtr]

well hes asked for pic of a standard injector and the plug. If anyonecould find me some would be great.

[jsdvtr]

Anyone know if skyline 440cc injectors fit a vts as mate said can have some for nowt if do. Need to know asap as was looking at getting some others if they dont fit that are up forsale.

Is there anyone i could ask or ring about this??

[raunchz]

Could ring gmc.

Thinking about it though your using standard inlet and fuel rail - be careful as some injectors are longer (eg 306 gti6)

ask him if you can borrow them to offer them upto the inlet

using them though - you'll definately need standalone!

[jsdvtr]

Could ring gmc.

Thinking about it though your using standard inlet and fuel rail - be careful as some injectors are longer (eg 306 gti6)

ask him if you can borrow them to offer them upto the inlet

using them though - you'll definately need standalone!

Well he asked me if wanted them but didnt want me to lose out on the ones i was looking at getting. This guy also knows a hell of alot as ownes the fastest recorded del sol in the uk (360bhp) that is awesome and has had 4 different engines in till he was happy with it and has given me tonnes of info about parts, etc to use with my car.

[raunchz]

Well he asked me if wanted them but didnt want me to lose out on the ones i was looking at getting. This guy also knows a hell of alot as ownes the fastest recorded del sol in the uk (360bhp) that is awesome and has had 4 different engines in till he was happy with it and has given me tonnes of info about parts, etc to use with my car.

Fair enough - sounds like he knows what he's on about :geek:

Good luck with it!

[jsdvtr]

Ye, hes told me loads of info and has changed me to save up and get standalone rather than 5th injector although i wanted to but didnt think could afford to but thats now main priority, Get a decent mani and downpipe as if the flow isnt right can back pressure into engine and knacker it and told me not to use a decomp and thicker gasket as the headgasket is like a safety thing for engine and if something fails itl be that and if its too thick itl just be the engine that goes bang, etc. Learnt a hell of alot and hopefully will end up with alot better turbo build, etc.

[raunchz]

Ye, hes told me loads of info and has changed me to save up and get standalone rather than 5th injector although i wanted to but didnt think could afford to but thats now main priority, Get a decent mani and downpipe as if the flow isnt right can back pressure into engine and knacker it and told me not to use a decomp and thicker gasket as the headgasket is like a safety thing for engine and if something fails itl be that and if its too thick itl just be the engine that goes bang, etc. Learnt a hell of alot and hopefully will end up with alot better turbo build, etc.

what you going to run instead of a decomp plate ?! You ideally need to lower the compression ratio . . . . . low comp forgies ?

[manc]

If your after a cheap option and you can get hold of a set get hold of the Clio172 injectors, these are Pico 283cc, they are a little bigger than the OE VTS injectors (220cc) and would suit low boost a treat, if for whatever reason they run at 100% duty during remap you could look at uprating the FPR to a higher rated one ie:3.5/4bar.

Hope that help.
Manc

[jsdvtr]

Well im going to get bigger ones just so in the future i decide to go more boost then all i got to do is change internals rather than doing injectors and get fpr anyway to sort out the fueling its just i could have these injectors for nowt as could be use to me.

[jsdvtr]

If your after a cheap option and you can get hold of a set get hold of the Clio172 injectors, these are Pico 283cc, they are a little bigger than the OE VTS injectors (220cc) and would suit low boost a treat, if for whatever reason they run at 100% duty during remap you could look at uprating the FPR to a higher rated one ie:3.5/4bar.

Hope that help.
Manc

Would 182 injectors be bigger cc??

Im looking at getting injectors soon to go towards build as need to start getting some more stuff start of next year. Would i need fuel rail too or just injectors?
What other injectors could i use that would fit?

[raunchz]

pretty much same cc as 172 ones

[Drago]

If you want to use the standard oe fuel rail/loom etc then you will need to stick with pico injectors.

172/182 pico IWP042 injectors are only rated up to 200 bhp

You need to decide what power level you want to achive, this will be the governing factor of what spec you will need.

[jsdvtr]

Well be running about 6-7 psi so that should roughly be about 200bhp but if getting new injectors may aswell got all out just incase in the future decide to run more power and uprated pistons, etc.

[3cott]

You could get the pico 330cc injectors...

[jsdvtr]

You could get the pico 330cc injectors...

What sort of power would they be good for? What sort of price?
So any pico injectors will fit saxo vts fuel rail?

[3cott]

What sort of power would they be good for? What sort of price?
So any pico injectors will fit saxo vts fuel rail?They will bee good for 250 bhp

£254 deliverd from AT power

http://atpowershop.co.uk/catalog/pico-fuel-injector-from-power-p-99.html

[Olly]

Give QEP a ring, Ask for matt and he will advise you of what to get.

When i spoke to him he had some 420cc's that had been used for 1 hour, was selling them for £170 ish.

Your not gonna lose alot with bigger injectors... My na engine was run on 420's and produced 180ish hp....

[jsdvtr]

Give QEP a ring, Ask for matt and he will advise you of what to get.

When i spoke to him he had some 420cc's that had been used for 1 hour, was selling them for £170 ish.

Your not gonna lose alot with bigger injectors... My na engine was run on 420's and produced 180ish hp....

What sort of power will they be good upto? Seems a ok price but ben-vts got some brand new 440cc i think for £180 new but not 100% sure on the cc though.

[maddison_vts]

i've just bought 490cc or 496cc peco injectors for my vts. gives plenty of scope to increase power in the future, where as if you get clio injectors, your limited to 200bhp at maximum flow. its not the best idea to run injectors at the max capacity either, 95% at the most i'd say.