200 bhp ???

[hammertoe]

just read thread bout 300 bhp seems a pain so i would like apinions on the best way to get 200 bhp ???

[saxmad88]

200 will be na or boosted,

Na you will be at its highest tune

Where as turbo your be lowest tune and have a huge scope for more power. All depends what your gunna want after 200 bhp?

[hammertoe]

na ? never known what this ment lol

[raunchz]

naturally aspirated

[TU-Tuning]

Naturally Aspirated. EG, no form of forced induction such as a supercharger or turbo.

Have a search mate its been covered many times before :)

[AlexB]

naturally aspirated

so no boost just atmospheric air pressire

[AlexB]

naturally aspirated

so no boost just atmospheric air pressire

[Paul]

200 will be very hard to achieve NA.

Cheaper to go boosted if you want 200BHP on your drive to talk about in the pub.

[JamesR]

Again, boost will be easier to achieve that figure and probably cheaper tbh

But NA is achievable, Ryan's is around that :)

[Ryan]

Again, boost will be easier to achieve that figure and probably cheaper tbh

But NA is achievable, Ryan's is around that :)

on mildish cams compaired to what I could run.

Pushing it to 210-220+ will involve a decent box though so i cant be fucked

[DusheR]

Cammed vts with 50 shot of nitrous should get you near.

[luthor1]

Turbo FTW.

Obviously I love the purist N/A, but I'm a closet whore - my demonstrator is a Saxo, but my mistress is an MR2 Turbo. Boost boost BOOST.

Whatever way I slice it, I don't care if you have to wait a second out of a corner, when it arrives it is with such force it doesn't even owe you an apology for being late.

Andy

[raunchz]

Turbo FTW.

Obviously I love the purist N/A, but I'm a closet whore - my demonstrator is a Saxo, but my mistress is an MR2 Turbo. Boost boost BOOST.

Whatever way I slice it, I don't care if you have to wait a second out of a corner, when it arrives it is with such force it doesn't even owe you an apology for being late.

Andy

Put superbly!! True petrol head!

Lol@ closet whore

[Ashleyp]

luthor you dirty man ;)

[KamRacing]

if you are chasing big power then its a no brainer. Turbos make the job a lot cheaper.
If you are after finesse, then n/a is the way to go.
Both are pointless if your chassis cannot cope with the scenario you intend to use it for though...

Kev

[hammertoe]

so what could be expected if i had vts, cammed and throtle bodys ???

[raunchz]

around 160bhp - will depend on the cams

[ATFoxy106]

WELL ,, a basically tuned camed,TB'd engine will be putting out 150 easily, and 170 luckily,

it is possibly to get 220 out off a N/a 1.6GTI when we build the 1.4 16v saxo rally car we will be looking at N/A 160 bhp minimum

[coleman258]

Am i right in thinking a turbo is much more likely to eat parts like gear boxes? or does it all depend on how you build it?

[coleman258]

you probably couldn't even make toast

Tbh your a cunt.

[KeithLemon]

WELL ,, a basically tuned camed,TB'd engine will be putting out 150 easily, and 170 luckily,

it is possibly to get 220 out off a N/a 1.6GTI when we build the 1.4 16v saxo rally car we will be looking at N/A 160 bhp minimum

a 1.4 16v saxo engine?

didnt know there was such a thing

how do you plan to get 220? ive not seen any above 200 and thats the 1.6 16v done

[raunchz]

a 1.4 16v saxo engine?

didnt know there was such a thing

how do you plan to get 220? ive not seen any above 200 and thats the 1.6 16v done

It'e either a hybrid engine or one of the new ones with vvt iirc

[raunchz]

^ ^ looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[saxmad88]

Am i right in thinking a turbo is much more likely to eat parts like gear boxes? or does it all depend on how you build it?

If you build it with the right spec parts it will be just as reliable as a standard car.

Ma type gearboxs become a problem when you go above 240 @ wheels, 3rd and 5th gear tend to shred themselves nicely. But this can be sorted by putting a be type gearbox in.

[Ryan]

a 1.4 16v saxo engine?

didnt know there was such a thing

how do you plan to get 220? ive not seen any above 200 and thats the 1.6 16v done

16v head on a modified bottom end.

Sandy brown has done it, as have several other cars in motorsport classes.

Lewis/bics engine made 207 on longmans dyno, 220 can be done most people tend to not go for really wild cams etc.. as they dont have a 6-8k sadev.