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toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 13:20
as above had my vtr/s RR on saturday and the fueling is really bad as i have no fuel return. pic below
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/colin999/IMG_0373.jpg
it underfuels before 4000rpm and over fuels after 4000 rpm apparently..

can someone please show me what the fueling should be like please..

all the car has a supersprint race system and decat atnd it ran 119.8 :(

VTRlaa
14th December 2009, 13:26
isnt that a really good figure for a VTR??

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 13:28
its a vtr with vts conversion

Michael-B
14th December 2009, 13:34
Still not that bad.

ben_vts
14th December 2009, 13:34
Correct me if iam wrong, they only 120 standard. And takining into consideration things like age, milage, general wear, service history, might explain the low figure you got. What were you hoping for.?

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 13:39
i dunno really atleast 120 lol..

i mainly posted it up about the fueling if anyone can help please...

titchster
14th December 2009, 13:41
Depends on the rollers.

I made 119 on one set, then 142 on another, and all I did was change the air filter, which I somehow doubt gave me 23bhp, so take all results with a pinch of salt.

raunchz
14th December 2009, 14:22
Fit a fuel return and go from there - I dnt know why people go to all the hassle and expense of doing the engine conversion but scrimp on not fitting a fuel return, it's no harder to do than fit an engine.

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 14:40
Fit a fuel return and go from there - I dnt know why people go to all the hassle and expense of doing the engine conversion but scrimp on not fitting a fuel return, it's no harder to do than fit an engine.

i need to find 6mm fuel hosing..
the only places i have found fuel hosing come in 1metre lenghts and you have to connect them all together.

can you recomend anywhere that sells 6mm hosing in 5metre lenghts?

raunchz
14th December 2009, 15:09
How about eBay?! Just enter the quantity you want and it'll come in a continuous length

luthor1
14th December 2009, 15:36
Hampshire Hosing in Southampton should sell you lengths of cabling.

Looking at your fueling curve, it's running 13.75 at it's leanest, and 12.5 at it's richest.

To be honest, that's not MILES away, since the ideal AFR is 13:1 at WOT all the way through?

Fit a fuel return first, then see where you are

Kind regards

Andy

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:06
aint that bad tom mine got r.r at 132.9bhp.. i got my graph. il show you when your out next ??

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 18:08
How about eBay?! Just enter the quantity you want and it'll come in a continuous length

was the first place i looked.

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 18:08
adam i just brought a new janspeed 4-2-1- manifold :p

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:11
what i got on mine ;)

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 18:14
i thought you had a 4-1?

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:15
nah 4-2-1 :P

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:18
http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r339/adamslater88/rrrrrrrrrr.jpg

duna if it helps tom. wasnt 132.9 bhp my thought lol was 131.7bhp

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:19
achually its a crap picture cant evan see the fuel ratio onit. il just show you when your out be easier lol

yr51ocw
14th December 2009, 18:31
what pressure FPR valve are you using?

toms_vtr
14th December 2009, 18:35
standard vtr one....
how much tourque did you have adam..

adam19
14th December 2009, 18:37
standard vtr one....
how much tourque did you have adam..

think he worked it out about 126ft lbs .. cant say for sure :S doesnt say on the paper :(

yr51ocw
14th December 2009, 18:57
if using the vtr 3.5fpr that will explain the AFR being too rich high up in the rev range.

Finchowned
14th December 2009, 19:14
Those results seem reasonable dude.

I got 124.7Bhp (100Bhp @ the wheels) with breathing mods on my VTS.

Stuff like 142Bhp from a backbox and airfilter etc is horse shit and people that actually believe those figures are retards.

AndySAXO
14th December 2009, 23:40
Those results seem reasonable dude.

I got 124.7Bhp (100Bhp @ the wheels) with breathing mods on my VTS.

Stuff like 142Bhp from a backbox and airfilter etc is horse shit and people that actually believe those figures are retards.

spot on comment there!!!

dyno where never made for power runs!! but for tuning reason, so see if mod on the engine are working,

but yer the rueling looks abit out, seem very up and down which it shouldnt be on full throttle, should be a very flat line across the rev range, maybe it due to not having a feul return.

andy

ukgaz
14th December 2009, 23:52
FPR is a very good point, I believe VTS is at 3 bar, not 3.5 correct me if I'm wrong of course!

Also, given it a service recently?

AndySAXO
15th December 2009, 03:24
yes they are 3 bar FPR, unless it mapped with a bigger FPR it will run wrong.

andy

aruffell
15th December 2009, 03:54
Let me get this straight, you're running a standard VTR FPR on a VTS lump?

Maybe i'm wrong, but could that not be the problem with the fuelling? lol

Andy

ukgaz
15th December 2009, 11:28
In thoery I would of thought so as the pressure is increased equaling to more fuel use