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ChristopherJames
11th January 2010, 11:07
Hey guys
mate just come up to me saying ill smoke you in my new zetec s
on the duals

facts and figures guys?
recon he would?
considering i been driving 1 year and 3 months a year with a bike and 3 months with a car
and hes been driving 2 weeks?

thanks guys

Ashleyp
11th January 2010, 11:09
i think you need to get a life and stop being a faggot

the 16v will help him, it all depends on the driver.

remember, street racing is like the paralympics, whoever wins is still a retard

raunchz
11th January 2010, 11:09
don't rise to it, just walk away

raunchz
11th January 2010, 11:10
i think you need to get a life and stop being a faggot

the 16v will help him, it all depends on the driver.

remember, street racing is like the paralympics, whoever wins is still a retard

Good work

DannySkittles
11th January 2010, 11:12
Hey guys
mate just come up to me saying ill smoke you in my new zetec s
on the duals

facts and figures guys?
recon he would?
considering i been driving 1 year and 3 months a year with a bike and 3 months with a car
and hes been driving 2 weeks?

thanks guys

on the duals?? we don't condone racing - and you won't really get any people replying as its been asked a thousand times before plus facts and figures mean nothing between them two cars, and plus most of it is down to the drivers and you two = crashing

Hazmanscoop
11th January 2010, 11:13
I can see this getting locked in 5 minutes....

if your "Blud" talks to you about "smoking" you in his zetec s, he needs a slap and told he's not a gang member from Brooklyn

Saxo-Gaz
11th January 2010, 11:15
LOL Dont bother.

Jo3fish
11th January 2010, 11:18
The two of you put together dont even have 2 years driving experience.

High chanse of it all ending in tears, imagine having to apologise to your mates family for clipping his rear quater when you were racing and send him spinning at 100mph into the centre console?

it happens more than you think.

rushy_23
11th January 2010, 11:19
I dont know man, that retard comment was pretty harsh!!


Im assuming your refering to a MK5 ZS? Its been said OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again.

But they are spec'ed very similarly. The Fiesta has the extra 8v's, but the Saxo has the weight advantage. Im not sure about the Fiesta's gear ratios.
But all in all they are nearly identical performance wise.

But the Fiesta is a much better base for mods imo!

rushy_23
11th January 2010, 11:21
The two of you put together dont even have 2 years driving experience.

High chanse of it all ending in tears, imagine having to apologise to your mates family for clipping his rear quater when you were racing and send him spinning at 100mph into the centre console?

it happens more than you think.

100MPH into a centre console would be random as hell but interesting :fcuk:

raunchz
11th January 2010, 11:23
looool ^ ^ ^ body would be a write-off me thinks :P

rushy_23
11th January 2010, 11:24
Lol. What about the poor knobs and buttons on the centre console? They didnt stand a chance.. :(

raunchz
11th January 2010, 11:26
Lol. What about the poor knobs and buttons on the centre console? They didnt stand a chance.. :(

aslong as it's not a Westie knob I'm happy :oops:

jimbo06
11th January 2010, 11:26
Zeee search button is your friend :y:

rushy_23
11th January 2010, 11:28
aslong as it's not a Westie knob I'm happy :oops:

Lol :)

VTR knob > ZS knob

samueljonburgess
11th January 2010, 11:29
sounds like a waste of time the looser would just come up with exuse's....

ChristopherJames
11th January 2010, 11:39
hey guys iwas just asking i wouldnt rise to his level as hes a bit of a fag like.
I waas just interested in finding out without the actual racing im not stupid enough to be like him
i think of myself as a pretty decent driver like as i cant afford to fuck around lol

saxova
11th January 2010, 11:55
you've only been driving 3 months. 1 year on a moped don't count as shit. Just basic road awareness.

One of my mates has one of these, And i Can't overtake it. But he can't lose me either.

But we've hardly been 'full at it'.

2 weeks and gets a zetec-s as a 1st car.. mummy's boy?

raunchz
11th January 2010, 12:00
hey guys iwas just asking i wouldnt rise to his level as hes a bit of a fag like.
I waas just interested in finding out without the actual racing im not stupid enough to be like him
i think of myself as a pretty decent driver like as i cant afford to fuck around lol

I think in all honesty it'd be a drivers race as the cars are pretty closely matched

ChristopherJames
11th January 2010, 12:05
oh yeah hes deffinetly a mummys boy
spoilt as f**k like :L

hes a nob and dont carei wouldnt race like tha lost a 2 mates due to it so like
would put my foot down on times but wouldnt race lol

saxova
11th January 2010, 12:08
Yeah, if he ask's you again..

Ask him if he wants to go to a track day with you?

Show him what saxo's are good for. Corners!

E3D
11th January 2010, 12:09
Chances are hes a little wanabe boyracer so you can tell him 0-60 a zetec s is slower.
How much depends on what model/year it is. if daddy's bought him an 05+ its just under 10 seconds not exactly quick. If its older its slower. I think a vtr mk2 is 9.4.
If hes been driving 2 weeks his lack of driving experience means hes at that stage where he thinks hes the tits but has no ability to back up his bullshit. Go go-karting and see how he does.

Ashleyp
11th January 2010, 12:11
Yeah, if he ask's you again..

Ask him if he wants to go to a track day with you?

Show him what saxo's are good for. Corners!

i love how everyone assumes nothing else other than a saxo can corner well

stupotvtr
11th January 2010, 13:38
I say you take up the challenge and go out and race him then when I'm watching police camera action I will find out which ones faster:y:

welshy23
11th January 2010, 13:40
aha, you only have to read one other racing related threads from this forum and you should know even talking about racing is not going to get you any brownie points with anyone on this site, why do you even car who is faster? after all its just a car surely its about who has a better life and a loving family or somthing more meaningful ... but by the sounds of everything you have a slower car and a worse of life becuase he is mummys boy... thread fail me thinks...

adzvtr
11th January 2010, 15:15
i love how everyone jumps down hard on people on here,
even tho he didnt actually say he was going to race,
its awsome how everyone is so perfect.

kendrick
12th January 2010, 21:23
i love how everyone assumes nothing else other than a saxo can corner well

Saxo

-doesn't accelerate that well
-doesn't brake well
-doesn't have a decent top end
-in gear performance is poor

handling is the only thing the saxo has on its side tbh

ant_vts
12th January 2010, 22:08
nothing stopping you two from racing just do it in the right ray there are planty of track days and drag strips around would like to know the outcome

Davey_P
13th January 2010, 12:35
as said would be nuffin in it apart from the driver.

tay56
13th January 2010, 13:18
if its a mk5 ZS and its got stuff done to it, it will be fast.
I know someone who's got one that does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, and its good on cornering on the track too

Ashleyp
13th January 2010, 13:21
Saxo

-doesn't accelerate that well
-doesn't brake well
-doesn't have a decent top end
-in gear performance is poor

handling is the only thing the saxo has on its side tbh

cant you read?

i said i love how everyone assumes the saxo is the only car that can handle well

as in, people think no other car can corner other than a saxo

n00b

J222JRA
13th January 2010, 13:24
*shake his head and goes to another thread*

Slugshead
13th January 2010, 13:54
he will win ovo...

fiestas dont crumple as much as saxos, you will die and he wont.

stueebaby
14th January 2010, 19:29
he will win ovo...

fiestas dont crumple as much as saxos, you will die and he wont.

haha that is a very valid point mate!
the zetec-s and VTR are literally identical in speed acceleration etc.... a couple of my mates owned these cars and raced many a time being very childish and immature and they always always came out neck and neck no matter what they done... the zs driver was also the slightly better driver....
but as everyone else says its not worth it your not a pair of formula 1 drivers you own a saxo vtr and a zs theyre not super cars!! haha:y:

TomMartin
14th January 2010, 19:37
I say you take up the challenge and go out and race him then when I'm watching police camera action I will find out which ones faster:y:

haha that made me lol.

get them both on a strip or at a track day - could be interesting

Lew_C
14th January 2010, 19:42
i love how everyone jumps down hard on people on here,
even tho he didnt actually say he was going to race,
its awsome how everyone is so perfect.

I know yeah, like people have saxo VTR/S's and don't put their foot down
my mate has a zetec S and its nippy but my saxo is just a bit quicker i think

X895INVER
14th January 2010, 19:52
lolzor at this thread!!

sebo123
14th January 2010, 20:10
fiesta is obviously going to win theres your answer mate

andymiller_VTR
14th January 2010, 20:37
i shat all over a fiesta zs at crail last year.....

Slyboogie
16th January 2010, 00:27
its awsome how everyone is so perfect.

Nail. Head.

adzvtr
16th January 2010, 00:57
Nail. Head.

point proven

hudsonkh
21st January 2010, 04:53
even before i read this .. just get on the track put a helmet on n crash togetha :) prob gonna be the end result anyway , sorry 4 sounding bleak

Saaamon
21st January 2010, 21:45
i love how everyone jumps down hard on people on here,
even tho he didnt actually say he was going to race,
its awsome how everyone is so perfect.

Spot on. I'd put my money on the Saxo personally.

stueebaby
22nd January 2010, 09:39
you both sit there flat out on a strip.... go to the pod! you will be neck and neck if ur both standard... nuff said!

stupotvtr
22nd January 2010, 10:23
PLEASE LOCK THIS POINTLESS THREAD

IT KEEPS GETTING BUMPED BACK TO THE TOP

I know I've now bumped this myself but hopefully for the last time

DusheR
22nd January 2010, 18:13
Why has everybody bitten? Surely if you think its a daft thread dont comment? Sometimes I think people just come on here just to try and belittle people.

His mate has been past his test two weeks... need I say more?

stueebaby
22nd January 2010, 18:16
Why has everybody bitten? Surely if you think its a daft thread dont comment? Sometimes I think people just come on here just to try and belittle people.

His mate has been past his test two weeks... need I say more?

you just commented mate haha

DusheR
22nd January 2010, 18:21
you just commented mate haha

Maybe I dont think its a daft thread?

littleracer
22nd January 2010, 18:30
another stupid noobie thread,full of mostly noobies,saxp exceeds itself again

VJOFurio
22nd January 2010, 18:30
Why has everybody bitten? Surely if you think its a daft thread dont comment? Sometimes I think people just come on here just to try and belittle people.

His mate has been past his test two weeks... need I say more?

Have you tried posting on the Cliosport forums??!! You'd have thought every member was a traffic cop/member of the royal family/solicitor/judge/doctor/parking attendant/mechanic/MP judging by the slander that you find on that forum (sometimes).

Plus I think they're prejudiced against Saxo owners!

stueebaby
22nd January 2010, 18:34
Maybe I dont think its a daft thread?

haha brilliant;)

DusheR
22nd January 2010, 18:37
Have you tried posting on the Cliosport forums??!! You'd have thought every member was a traffic cop/member of the royal family/solicitor/judge/doctor/parking attendant/mechanic/MP judging by the slander that you find on that forum (sometimes).

Plus I think they're prejudiced against Saxo owners!

I havnt and by the sounds of it dont think I will.

moxy89
22nd January 2010, 18:41
see another newbie.... complete and utter tool

vtr130
23rd January 2010, 01:20
i think you need to get a life and stop being a faggot

the 16v will help him, it all depends on the driver.

remember, street racing is like the paralympics, whoever wins is still a retard

Fucking Hilarious :y:

D--R--E--W
23rd January 2010, 05:37
everyone on here acts so perfect Bit of honesty for you's.

I had a mk2 vtr, my mate with a 51 plate zetec s. We raced up a 1/4 mile dual carraigeway (sp) and he just got the edge over me.

Zetecs is a very nippy wee car for what they are and seriously surprised me....

SAM-S44MDS-
20th October 2010, 15:39
race him ul win the saxo is lighter and has a beter gear ratio meann u can stay in lower gears longer eats petrol tho but saxo wins, mates got zs and i won every time and nw ma cars got a 421 decat and saxspot system i just piss him of

You p*** me off with all your daft posts you're making.
It's not a street racing site, we DO NOT like street racing it is stupid!!!! Spirited driving is fine, full on street racing is just c**tish tbh.
And please can you try and type in proper english
Thanks

rozaladdd
20th October 2010, 16:02
i have mk2 vtr and i also have a fiesta mk5 aswell and i would say they are just the same all around apart from a bit of better handling from a saxo but at the end of the day what's it matter because most saxo's falls apart every week, my brother raced a 290 bhp focus rs at santa pod in his 200 bhp type r and won his mate 3 times so it also depends on the driver.

rumble291
20th October 2010, 22:09
Personally i'd just read the specs out to him, tell him the price difference and then tell him to get some driving experience and grow up. Don't race him as your just sinking to his level.

I've got a mate that thinks he can drive and knows more about cars than I do, we took it to a go kart track and i left him in the dust so funny! haha.

Pearson
20th October 2010, 22:30
Hey guys
mate just come up to me saying ill smoke you in my new zetec s
on the duals

facts and figures guys?
recon he would?
considering i been driving 1 year and 3 months a year with a bike and 3 months with a car
and hes been driving 2 weeks?

thanks guys

99 Onwards VTR -

Engine Size 1587 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 9.1 s
Power Output 100 bhp
Valves 8
Torque - 100 lb-ft
Top Speed 120 mph

08 Onwards Zetec S -

Engine Size 1596 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 9.6 s
Power Output 118 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 152 Nm 112 lb-ft
Top Speed 120 mph

Close contest ;).

Nik_L
21st October 2010, 11:29
Isnt it the 2001 onwards Vtr's that had the 100bhp engine??

Not that you would notice the difference on the road between the 2.

char69lie
21st October 2010, 11:33
It makes me laugh why dont they race the saxo with the same spec engine. ie. 1.6 16v and see who 'smokes' who..

char69lie
21st October 2010, 11:33
not that i condone racing!

saxchap
21st October 2010, 11:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsKEVi9qfsg

Now shut up.

stupotvtr
21st October 2010, 12:38
PLEASE LOCK THIS POINTLESS THREAD

IT KEEPS GETTING BUMPED BACK TO THE TOP

I know I've now bumped this myself but hopefully for the last time

^see my previous post ^

wesley-saxo
21st October 2010, 21:09
people like your friend is why my insurace is so f**king high!

brosnan
21st October 2010, 23:40
^^^ try not make it anymore expensive by making saxos rarer!!!! lol
All you got to tell him is "I own my car" (thus not wasting tyres and thrashin it) assuming a nice new fiesta s is on finance or daddy

matt-pinel
30th October 2010, 15:43
tbh mate i have a vtr with a group n exhaust system, and my good friend has a mk 5 zetec s, to 60 the vtr wins to 80 the vtr wins to a 100 the vtr wins, the fiesta just isnt as nippy!!

maddison_vts
30th October 2010, 18:20
you're all such bummers. every time there is a thread like this, you all say, OH NO, RACING ON A PUBLIC ROAD IS SO WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON OR EXECUTED' or some other moaning, bitching crap.
so you girls are saying that you've spent all this money putting wilder cams, exhaust systems, stripping out your interior for that 'race/track car look' yet your cars have and never will see a track in their lifetime and you're saying you drive around like an oap and never race anybody? bollocks. its forum crap, you see it on driftworks, everyone is into drifting yet if anyone says that they had a bit of a skid late one night on a roundabout, they all hit the roof! its crazy!

jordanh3
7th November 2010, 11:34
dont bother racing him you havnt got the experience yet to be a true driver, just occasionally give him the odd blip while driving about... make him think your quicker than him lol

jordanh3
7th November 2010, 11:35
you're all such bummers. Every time there is a thread like this, you all say, oh no, racing on a public road is so wrong, you should be put in prison or executed' or some other moaning, bitching crap.
So you girls are saying that you've spent all this money putting wilder cams, exhaust systems, stripping out your interior for that 'race/track car look' yet your cars have and never will see a track in their lifetime and you're saying you drive around like an oap and never race anybody? Bollocks. Its forum crap, you see it on driftworks, everyone is into drifting yet if anyone says that they had a bit of a skid late one night on a roundabout, they all hit the roof! Its crazy!

2nd that!!!

-shuggles-
7th November 2010, 11:43
you're all such bummers. every time there is a thread like this, you all say, OH NO, RACING ON A PUBLIC ROAD IS SO WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON OR EXECUTED' or some other moaning, bitching crap.
so you girls are saying that you've spent all this money putting wilder cams, exhaust systems, stripping out your interior for that 'race/track car look' yet your cars have and never will see a track in their lifetime and you're saying you drive around like an oap and never race anybody? bollocks. its forum crap, you see it on driftworks, everyone is into drifting yet if anyone says that they had a bit of a skid late one night on a roundabout, they all hit the roof! its crazy!

spot on there:y: if somebody with a high post count says something like racing is bad then all of sax-p jump on the wagon!! really pisses me off.


btw cool story :Slawlzzzz

dj_enzo
7th November 2010, 15:59
just race him in a safe place i would say what ya want old people i like to ave a bit of fun don't meen i do it in stupid places like 20mph zones have fun saxo are fun to drive and nippy. at the end of the day there closed matched cars so who ever wins is a better fast driver

jordanh3
7th November 2010, 22:32
saxo is ALOT lighter than the fiesta anyway so we all know the sax would win simply because saxo's are the better cars ;)

stevyj
7th November 2010, 23:00
theres a place and a time to do it . 30 mph zones obviuosly not. if your on backroads or wherever and no one else is in danger its your own fault for driving fast etc. but wer have all done at some point . in my opinion vtr would win. get it decatted and have 4 2 1 and stainless mani on it and a decent panel filter .