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Mieran
16th February 2010, 23:58
Can 1.1 gearboxes handle the torque of a VTS?

What makes them go bang? Too many launches?

Also whats the ratios like compared to VTS gearboxes?

J222JRA
17th February 2010, 00:21
Im not 100% but im sure i once read that the diff in a 1.1 box is smaller than a vts box which makes them weaker??????????

As said i may be wrong...would be interested to hear other peoples opinions.

titchster
17th February 2010, 00:24
The diff is smaller, but they do work.

They're shorter than VTS boxes (probably the next shortest box from them), and don't run the 'sports' gearset, but they do work well IMO.

Simo
17th February 2010, 00:40
I've had a couple of 1.1 boxes on my turbo VTS and they've lasted just as long as the vts boxes Ive had.

Mieran
17th February 2010, 00:51
I've had a couple of 1.1 boxes on my turbo VTS and they've lasted just as long as the vts boxes Ive had.

Interesting :detective:

So where does the 1.1 box comes in terms of ratios?

VTS
V
S2 Rallye/1.6 XSI
V
1.4 XSI
V
S1 Rallye

Simo
17th February 2010, 00:54
Take a look here for info and links to furhter info...

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246790

titchster
17th February 2010, 01:03
So the FD is either 4.26 or 3.79, with only one kind being the latter.


And IMO, the 1.1 box is between the VTS and the 1.6 Rallye box.

Also interesting that the first VTR boxes had the same FD as 1.1 boxes, strange as that's the box that was originally on my car and it was terrible.

Mieran
17th February 2010, 13:18
So what would the top speed be like?

Krys_23
17th February 2010, 13:45
I'd have thought it would have been in the region of 110mph in 5th ( MAX )

paxo89
17th February 2010, 15:11
Also interesting that the first VTR boxes had the same FD as 1.1 boxes, strange as that's the box that was originally on my car and it was terrible.

That can't be right surely! My P reg vtr's box has a horribly long FD, bought it completely standard and was owned by a woman for 10 years before me, so very much doubt she changed the box :detective:

titchster
17th February 2010, 18:48
Exactly what's surprised me...

K17NEY
17th February 2010, 20:00
i have a 1.1 box on my vts.Its awesome imo 1st,2nd,3rd are nice and close,forth revs out to 115 ish and 5th is good for 130+..Brilliant gearbox..

Krys_23
17th February 2010, 20:03
Kitney can you really get that sort of speed out of a 1.1 in 5th gear on a vts? I may have to invest in a 1.1 box when i get another vtr or vts.

Mieran
17th February 2010, 20:04
i have a 1.1 box on my vts.Its awesome imo 1st,2nd,3rd are nice and close,forth revs out to 115 ish and 5th is good for 130+..Brilliant gearbox..

What top speed did you get from it?

On private road or on the autobahn. ;)

K17NEY
17th February 2010, 20:05
Kitney can you really get that sort of speed out of a 1.1 in 5th gear :O

i doubt it no..But my vts does it happily with the 1.1 box on.I was quite surprised myself..

K17NEY
17th February 2010, 20:07
What top speed did you get from it?

On private road or on the autobahn. ;)

135 ish..and thats at about 7200rpm iircc,on a private runway