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mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 01:57
what sort of stuff can i do to make it go faster at a decent price
Maxamus
3rd March 2010, 07:55
Theres got to be a million threads on this topic! Please search!
Edit: Theres even an FAQ called "How to improve the Saxo's performance?" in the FAQ tab at the top of the page.
holdawayt
3rd March 2010, 07:59
Hahaha for fucks sake.
Awaits funny replies. Might have to subscribe to this.
In answer to your question, racing stripes, 8 subwoofers and sparco pedals is your answer my man (Y)
JamesR
3rd March 2010, 07:59
Decat exhaust system
4-2-1 manifold
Enclosed Induction kit
Cams
Remap
Headwork
Throttle bodies
Turbo
Supercharger
Strip the car out
Lighter panels
Etc etc - start with the first 3 things I listed though.
Jo3fish
3rd March 2010, 08:52
Decat exhaust system
4-2-1 manifold
Enclosed Induction kit
Cams
Remap
Headwork
Throttle bodies
Turbo
Supercharger
Strip the car out
Lighter panels
Etc etc - start with the first 3 things I listed though.
This.
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58507
Look at the title of that thread, please, and in particular the part in brackets.
Sparco_Tom
3rd March 2010, 09:01
You can fit a prehemoglobin valve to the fuel line which up the fuel pressure giving you an extra 5-8bhp
-Jason-
3rd March 2010, 09:10
VTS engine
wildrenegade
3rd March 2010, 09:25
I must learn to refrain from posting inappropiate comments.
shannon-ob
3rd March 2010, 10:17
This.
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58507
Look at the title of that thread, please, and in particular the part in brackets.
ahah yeah look in brackets ;)
JamesR
3rd March 2010, 10:45
Infact, if you have a VTR engine then just drop a VTS engine in. Instant 18 or 30bhp and could be done for the price of a 4-2-1 manifold if you are lucky.
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 12:14
Infact, if you have a VTR engine then just drop a VTS engine in. Instant 18 or 30bhp and could be done for the price of a 4-2-1 manifold if you are lucky.
listen to this guy. if you want to go faster, get more horses
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:17
where can i get a s engine then ?
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:21
listen to this guy. if you want to go faster, get more horses
Actually stripping makes more of a difference then just more power
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:27
where can i get a s lump from
and how does it work with insurance
Sparco_Tom
3rd March 2010, 12:33
Tell dvla you swapped engines then tell the insurance company
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:35
are does the insurance go up by much?
where can i get the lump from?
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:40
Tell dvla you swapped engines then tell the insurance company
but would this be called a engine transplant/conversion?
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:41
get a quote from insurance before you do it. i doubt youd be able to afford the insurance.
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:41
but would this be called a engine transplant/conversion?
yes it is
Sparco_Tom
3rd March 2010, 12:42
Insurance will go up loads yes it is a conversion :bang:
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:43
insurance will be higher then just insuring a vts.
god these threads are so shite!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU PEOPLE USE A FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:45
engine conversion at not allowed from august/september 2009 have to get a garage or a qualified mechanic to do the job
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:47
insurance will be higher then just insuring a vts.
god these threads are so shite!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU PEOPLE USE A FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:47
engine conversion at not allowed from august/september 2009 have to get a garage or a qualified mechanic to do the job
Iam a qulified mechanic so ll good.
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:48
though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off
so everyday the same question gets answered.
Its because of people with your attitude that drives people away and not answer questions.
the search button is there to use now use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:50
though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off
another retard that doesn't know the difference between thought and though?
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:50
do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:52
what happened was people did the engine conversion eg 1.2 spi then put 2litre/1600 16 valve2.5 v6/3.0 v6/3.2 v6 into the spi but did not tell the insurance and did not change log book so they were still insuring it as a 1.2
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:53
FFS search
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236140
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84099
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:53
so everyday the same question gets answered.
Its because of people with your attitude that drives people away and not answer questions.
the search button is there to use now use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
care to explain this?
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 12:54
Iam a qulified mechanic so ll good.
how many years experience?
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:55
only 3
but iv driven some cars i had a go at my mates vts turbo that was good fun
and he also had a vts befor that witch was all cammed and everything
littleracer
3rd March 2010, 12:57
care to explain this?
omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how many years experience?
3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell
3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.
i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 12:59
lol :D
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:02
omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell
3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.
i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.
so can a noob strip down rebuild his/my engine and strip down and rebuild the complete front suspension and tune my engine no one else just me also could a noob flat and polish alloy parts to a mirror finish
craig180
3rd March 2010, 13:03
Welcome to the site mate.
As mentioned please try to use the search button to answer generic questions. If there is something you are still unsure of please feel free to ask.
Don't be put of by knobs that know more than you do. They tend to get banned from the site
get a quote from insurance before you do it. i doubt youd be able to afford the insurance.
omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell
3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.
i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.
cya x
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:03
so can a noob strip down rebuild his/my engine and strip down and rebuild the complete front suspension and tune my engine no one else just me also could a noob flat and polish alloy parts to a mirror finish
eg combustion cambers/piston crown exhaust port/ built my own custom exhaust/ do welding/paint spraying
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:09
eg combustion cambers/piston crown exhaust port/ built my own custom exhaust/ do welding/paint spraying
and build induction kit
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 13:09
do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?
craig180
3rd March 2010, 13:11
do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?
Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:12
omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell
3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.
i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.
been in the car trade since 1986
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 13:15
Actually stripping makes more of a difference then just more power
Okay, generally the question was how to make my VTR faster.. simple answer is to swap engines to the VTS. You can pick them up on ebay for around £375 mate. And i agree with what you say 'littleracer' by stripping down your car reduces the weight. The weight really only has an effect from 0-60, anything after that is down to mostly wind resistance and aerodynamics.
sweet for banning him he was beginning to piss me off. We don't care how you went to your little college and learnt to be a mechanic. your amazing. ;/ not
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 13:18
do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?
1. That post was from 2004 mate. Wouldn't think the engine is still up for sale mate. Sorry.
2. You will need the wiring loom, ecu etc.. try and get all of this together which will make the conversion alot easier.
Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over
Yea looks like the post is dated ages ago:fcuk:
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:24
so back to the op question how much faster can you/me make the vtr
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 13:26
1. That post was from 2004 mate. Wouldn't think the engine is still up for sale mate. Sorry.
2. You will need the wiring loom, ecu etc.. try and get all of this together which will make the conversion alot easier.
Yea looks like the post is dated ages ago:fcuk:
ops thanks for spoting that mate
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 13:28
with the standard VTR engine ? budget? - How much money have you got to spend
kristel10589
3rd March 2010, 13:29
Okay, generally the question was how to make my VTR faster.. simple answer is to swap engines to the VTS. You can pick them up on ebay for around £375 mate. And i agree with what you say 'littleracer' by stripping down your car reduces the weight. The weight really only has an effect from 0-60, anything after that is down to mostly wind resistance and aerodynamics.
sweet for banning him he was beginning to piss me off. We don't care how you went to your little college and learnt to be a mechanic. your amazing. ;/ not
of course weight doesnt only effect accelertaion, it also effects braking cornering turn in etc.
I bet your life is amazing too.NOT
mike_jones_401
3rd March 2010, 13:29
yer its been decated and dont no if anything els has been done
iv got about 3-4 k to spend
kristel10589
3rd March 2010, 13:30
been in the car trade since 1986
and still know nothing?
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 13:31
ops thanks for spoting that mate
Have a look at a few of these mate. On ebay you can purchase these pretty much today if you have the money:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-106-GTI-VTS-1-6-16v-Complete-Engine_W0QQitemZ250585850526QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a5814a29e
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-106-GTI-VTS-1-6-16v-Complete-Engine-2002_W0QQitemZ260561562635QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3caaadec0b
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTi-Saxo-VTS-1-6-16v-Engine-1998-77-500-Miles_W0QQitemZ170445453497QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27af5738b9
Just make sure you check the mileage on the engines.
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 13:33
of course weight doesnt only effect accelertaion, it also effects braking cornering turn in etc.
I bet your life is amazing too.NOT
i love you, my life is probably better than yours considering you can't spell acceleration. :P im off to grab some food. x
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:35
and still know nothing?
if i know nothing how did i do a complete strip down and rebuild of my engine front suspension also ported and polished my own cylinder head have lots of photos of me doing this plus loads of other jobs on my car as well also if i knew nothing then my car would not have gone though the mot and passed
ajdsaxo
3rd March 2010, 13:39
if i know nothing how did i do a complete strip down and rebuild of my engine front suspension also ported and polished my own cylinder head have lots of photos of me doing this plus loads of other jobs on my car as well also if i knew nothing then my car would not have gone though the mot and passed
how do you fit ur head through the door at night?
craig180
3rd March 2010, 13:41
FYI guys, Kristel is also littleracer in a skirt.
If either give you any abuse please let me know.
Craig
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:45
how do you fit ur head through the door at night?
if you mean cylinder head strip of ancillary components when all that is taken off then undo cylinder head bolts with torque ratchet then remove cylinder head then strip down cylinder head it self to components parts then port it then flat and polish combustion cambers/exhaust ports then remove pistons and flat and polish piston crowns
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 13:47
yer its been decated and dont no if anything els has been done
iv got about 3-4 k to spend
what else would you like to do to your engine and could you do any of these jobs your self just to cut down on the overall cost with out compromising quality
paxo89
3rd March 2010, 13:49
Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over
I personally wouln't buy an engine from a site called "street race"...
Just my 2p..
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 15:03
if you mean cylinder head strip of ancillary components when all that is taken off then undo cylinder head bolts with torque ratchet then remove cylinder head then strip down cylinder head it self to components parts then port it then flat and polish combustion cambers/exhaust ports then remove pistons and flat and polish piston crowns
So after you finish porting the head, do you put it on a flowbench to see if you have made any improvement? Or are you just taking a wild stab in the dark :P:afro:
fdrightup
3rd March 2010, 15:19
So after you finish porting the head, do you put it on a flowbench to see if you have made any improvement? Or are you just taking a wild stab in the dark :P:afro:
no wild stab in the dark, drove the car loads before porting and the same after
and after porting goes really well just like it is a completely different engine
to easy to cruise at 4,000 rpm /4,500 rpm in 5th
lukee_VTR
3rd March 2010, 16:49
cool cool
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