View Full Version : VTR or VTS for motorway miles
stingray1987
21st April 2010, 16:43
right ive got a job working on the premire inns across the country so i need a car that will be up for the job of doing alot of motorway miles.
yes i know i shoudl really get a tdi but i want a saxo so im having one lol.
basicly which car will be the best on the motorway? mainly which car will be able to cope with the motorway miles the best?
also upto what mileage are the mk2 vtr and vts good upto before major things start to go wrong???
i had a mk2 vtr before so i know that will run at 70-80 fine on lowish revs but what revs would the vts be on doing the same speeds?
im just after as much info as poss. cheers. mark
willsy
21st April 2010, 16:44
VTR will be the better choice
essexdon
21st April 2010, 16:47
yea prob the vtr, best of a small choise really. VTS sits at 3750/4000 at 75/85 in 5th.
stingray1987
21st April 2010, 16:53
yea prob the vtr, best of a small choise really. VTS sits at 3750/4000 at 75/85 in 5th.
cheers. what are are the two engines good for mileage wise if serviced regular?
which engine is more common to play up with high milage on??
essexdon
21st April 2010, 17:02
never owned a vtr mate but ud get 250 miles from £40 in a VTS. its not the best but its not bad. as for servicing same as any engine really if its been looked after then you shouldnt expect probs, but trying to find a fast saxo thats been looked after well on the cheap is prob more of an issue?
stingray1987
21st April 2010, 17:05
never owned a vtr mate but ud get 250 miles from £40 in a VTS. its not the best but its not bad. as for servicing same as any engine really if its been looked after then you shouldnt expect probs, but trying to find a fast saxo thats been looked after well on the cheap is prob more of an issue?
only 250miles. i used to get 300-330miles round town in the vtr i used to own.
the main problem will be if i buy the vtr, every time i see a vts go by i will be wishing i brought one of them instead lol.
johnr32
21st April 2010, 18:50
every time i see a vts go by i will be wishing i brought one of them instead lol.
If budget allows then get a VTS but assuming the reason why your asking about running costs, id opt for the *R
Jim-Bob
21st April 2010, 18:53
I do 400 miles a week and have chosen to go 16v :y:
Can see 40+ MPG from them if driven sensibly (easily done on motorways ;))
James
Stevo123
21st April 2010, 19:24
42-44mpg mixed driving VTR personally.
VTR has longer ratios best suited to motorway driving.
VTR has a simpler engine that is easy to work with very easy and cheap to service.
VTR has cheaper insurance than VTS.
VTR has same suspension and brakes as VTS so handling is still great.
Yes I would like VTS power sometimes but not often enough to warrant buying one myself and it's all down to preference really.
rey
21st April 2010, 19:37
I've had both.
For motorway, VTR everyday for me.
+ you can get more than 240 miles from £40 easy in an S.
However, prime example here, full tank, motorway miles, in my S I got 330 miles.
I used to see 400+ from a full tank of motorway driving in my R.
stingray1987
21st April 2010, 20:09
right well i get my petrol paid for and the insurance between the vtr and vts is only £25 a year difference so ill just have test drive a few of each.
my mind maybe set after giving a vts a test drive lol.
the main question i wanted to know is at what mileage am i going to start seeing problems? and is the 8v or 16v more prone to problems at high mileage?
rey
21st April 2010, 20:10
Both will be fine if looked after right.
Marky_C
21st April 2010, 20:11
If you buy a Saxo for motorway miles then you are a retard.
stingray1987
21st April 2010, 20:19
If you buy a Saxo for motorway miles then you are a retard.
lol havent got much choice really. i want a saxo as i had one before. i carnt aford two cars so its either have the saxo but do motorway miles in it. or have a different car which is not what i want.
Marky_C
21st April 2010, 20:21
Driving on the motorway in a Saxo is like shitting razors.
rey
21st April 2010, 20:23
Driving on the motorway in a Saxo is like shitting razors.
The fucks up with your car?!
Both have mine have been fine to drive on a motorway, in fact, my S pretty much lives on the motorway.
Jarhead
21st April 2010, 21:01
Im on the motorway everyday in my VTR and I put around £35 of fuel in a week.
Does me fine.
But the VTR be better for motorway driving out the two.
Furioman
21st April 2010, 22:19
If you can handle the performance hit i would get a furio not that slow the one i had would do 500 miles on a full tank motorway driving
Gary-VTR
21st April 2010, 22:24
My VTR whines like a bitch on the motorway. The engine noise is horrifically loud; sits at about 3.5k. :n:
Liam_
21st April 2010, 22:34
My VTR whines like a bitch on the motorway. The engine noise is horrifically loud; sits at about 3.5k. :n:
3.5k rpm is 70mph in a VTS haha.
VTR would be my choice for the motorway. Had 52mpg from mine on a long trip once. :cool:
Gordon
21st April 2010, 23:07
I travel the country over the summer months and my VTR has served me well! Plenty comfy enough and easy to drive while still being comunicative enough to keep you awake.
Mochachino
21st April 2010, 23:11
I reckon a VTS with the early long VTR gearbox, will sit well below half the rev range at 70mph.
jeffchiz
22nd April 2010, 00:38
i recently managed 350 miles on my 16v on about £52 which is really good considering its got a 1.1 gearbox and i haven't fitted a fuel return pipe in yet, i just fitted a vtr box today though as town driving mpg is horrendous! so i fitted the vtr box to save on fuel (also my 1.1 box mount sheared off and i had a vtr box lying around lol)
Meto
22nd April 2010, 09:13
I know you say you want to stick with your saxo but I would get a saxo/106 1.5D or a 306 D turbo- all bullet proof engines tbh
coleman258
22nd April 2010, 09:18
If you get your petrol paid for just get a VTS, your stupid not to tbh.
Pieface
22nd April 2010, 09:23
If you get your petrol paid for just get a VTS, your stupid not to tbh.
you're stupid*
Anyway, get a 1.5D Saxo. That would be your best option.
gaz4399
22nd April 2010, 09:37
I reckon a VTS with the early long VTR gearbox, will sit well below half the rev range at 70mph.
correct, my vts used to have a vtr box fitted and was a lot cheaper on the motorway. i now have a vts box so it costs me more money:n: but its quicker now:y:
inkedandpierced
22nd April 2010, 09:47
If your getting your petrol paid for you then i`d go for the S :P
coleman258
22nd April 2010, 09:54
you're stupid*
Anyway, get a 1.5D Saxo. That would be your best option.
That mistake was really bad, definitely needed to be corrected.
RAFkev
22nd April 2010, 12:03
If you're petrol is paid for then the only benefit of having a vtr is servicing costs!
i.e. cambelt will be cheaper when it eventually does need replacing.
I've had both vtr and vts. Both engines aren't bad if they are looked after.
But if you are one for getting your toe down every chance you get, yes the vts will be quicker but things will be more expensive when they break.
ollie-vt-
23rd April 2010, 17:29
i would never get a saxo for doing motorway miles. get a cheap veedub if you havent got a lot to spend on a car
french_baguette
23rd April 2010, 21:37
If you're petrol is paid for then the only benefit of having a vtr is servicing costs!
i.e. cambelt will be cheaper when it eventually does need replacing.
I've had both vtr and vts. Both engines aren't bad if they are looked after.
But if you are one for getting your toe down every chance you get, yes the vts will be quicker but things will be more expensive when they break.
Urm hardly concidering all the mechanical parts are exactly the same except the engine. The engines are pretty much bombproof anyway unless you, or a previous owner like to warm them up by bouncing of the limiter for a few miniutes.
Just make sure you dont get going over 3500rpm in the first 5-10miniutes of driving and there should be no reason why putting your foot down now and again would break the engine.
Servicing can be carried out by anyone with knowlage of righty tighty lefty loosey, and the once in a lifetime the engine will need a cambelt change is hardly going to leave you feeling out of pocket and wishing you had a vtr
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