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tichy
22nd July 2010, 16:26
just rebuilt my head on my furio and found i blew my bottom end up the engine is fully stripped atm and i can get a vtr bottom end of a mate jw if a furio head on a vtr bottom end will be any good e.g would it run ok and would it be as fast or faster than a vtr help needed quik

raunchz
22nd July 2010, 16:33
just put a vtr head on the vtr bottom end

tichy
22nd July 2010, 16:49
ive just rebulit my furio one and that means i will av to buy a vtr head and realy dont want to do that tbh

tichy
22nd July 2010, 17:11
would i see any gains

raunchz
22nd July 2010, 17:15
None at all - that's if it'd even fit

Can image the camshaft is different profile etc so Ecu map would be out etc.

Just fit the vtr head

adamskiTNR
22nd July 2010, 17:26
And think about the difference in diameter between cylinder bore and head bore. There would be a definable lip. This would , well, ruin everything. Flame propagation would be odd and the compression would pinch up to this lip and do all relms of black magic on combustion

tichy
22nd July 2010, 17:27
ok mate cheers du rekon i cud sell my furio head nn for how much

raunchz
22nd July 2010, 17:28
Urmmmm not a lot really

adamskiTNR
22nd July 2010, 17:29
Melt it down and start a mint

tichy
22nd July 2010, 17:29
ok cheers for the help mate

tichy
22nd July 2010, 17:30
what du u mean by (melt it down and start a mint) sorri if i sound dumb lol

adamskiTNR
22nd July 2010, 17:31
It was a joke

samueljonburgess
22nd July 2010, 18:16
i might have it what have you had done to it? :)

adamskiTNR
22nd July 2010, 18:18
i might have it what have you had done to it? :)

You have furio on the mind! haha

samueljonburgess
22nd July 2010, 18:28
haha might aswell do it properly if iam keepin it :) think its off to get mapped next week we will see

AXracing
22nd July 2010, 19:11
just rebuilt my head on my furio and found i blew my bottom end up the engine is fully stripped atm and i can get a vtr bottom end of a mate jw if a furio head on a vtr bottom end will be any good e.g would it run ok and would it be as fast or faster than a vtr help needed quik

You should be able to use a VTR bottom end though just be positive the cam pulley has the same number of teeth. Never tried it but you should be able to just swap everything off your furio and bolt it more or less strait on the VTR block (assuming that year has space for all the sensors). The ECU should cope ok enough as the difference is not all that great. I have known a few people convert 1.1s in to 1.4s by doing the same. Though it will likely give quite a bit less power then a regular VTR. Never the best way of doing thing though.

saxo_gash
22nd July 2010, 20:20
also the valves in the head are a different size i think they do fit though but there wouldnt be any point tbh just go vtr whole lump

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:14
You should be able to use a VTR bottom end though just be positive the cam pulley has the same number of teeth. Never tried it but you should be able to just swap everything off your furio and bolt it more or less strait on the VTR block (assuming that year has space for all the sensors). The ECU should cope ok enough as the difference is not all that great. I have known a few people convert 1.1s in to 1.4s by doing the same. Though it will likely give quite a bit less power then a regular VTR. Never the best way of doing thing though.

yh mate i think it wud wrk tbh im sure my mate has a vtr with a quiksilver head on so dunno wether there is any difference

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:16
i might have it what have you had done to it? :)

what do u mean mate u sax is lukin good frm what ive see of it on here tbh

jeffchiz
22nd July 2010, 21:22
what do u mean mate u sax is lukin good frm what ive see of it on here tbh

hes asking what have you done to the head? as you said you've re-built it ie new springs, new valves, followers, valve seats cut, stem seals, port and polish, gas flowing etc

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:27
erm new valves, springs, collers and ported and polished

jeffchiz
22nd July 2010, 21:28
erm new valves, springs, collers and ported and polished

do you have a receipt for the port and polish?

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:30
narh yy

jeffchiz
22nd July 2010, 21:33
just because a lot of people sell cylinder heads and say it has been ported and polished but a lot of people lie as its not something that you can see so you dont know for sure if it has been done or not, im not saying it hasn't been done but you'll find it hard to sell it, if its got a receipt then it will be easy to sell at a higher price, but i wouldn't expect anyone to pay anymore than a standard oem head as they wont wanna be ripped off

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:35
oh yh i can see what ur sayin but i noe the bloke hu dun it through a mate so ill get in touch with him and see if he can give me one

jeffchiz
22nd July 2010, 21:38
oh ok cool, like i said if you can get a recipt then it'll amke it much more sellable as its one of those mods which is hard to tell weather its actually been done or not

just out of curiosity how much did it cost you? ive always wondered what people pay for a port and polish

tichy
22nd July 2010, 21:46
it cost me 80 quid for all of it but i duno weva that cheap or dear i just had it done at the time noing my look it was probly dearer but its done now lol