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Matty1991
4th August 2010, 16:58
Hi guys, just bought my first saxo. Its a 2002 VTR. She has a supersprint manifold and a full magnex system. I wouldn't mind the odd pop or bang now and again, but I haven't heard anything of such! Is the cat in the standard mani or what way does it work on these?
Thanks
RAFkev
4th August 2010, 17:17
Hiya mate.
The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.
As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.
If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.
Kev
Sam
4th August 2010, 17:42
Hiya mate.
The cat in a Vtr is in the manifold.
As I understand it, Saxo's that pop are down to an overfueling problem. But it's usually left because it sounds good.
If you get it mapped, the ecu can be configured to make it pop.
Kev
Mk1 is under car
Mk2 is in mani
does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
RAFkev
4th August 2010, 17:47
Mk1 is under car
Mk2 is in mani
does the magnex centerpipe have a silencer??
2002 = mk2 sam! ;)
lwigmore
4th August 2010, 17:53
if he's said its got a supersprint manifold, then it won't have a CAT on it??
stokesy
4th August 2010, 17:54
flaming is down to over fuelling, popping is from the back pressure or something along those lines i beleive.. with a full straight through system should ge a few pops and bangs..
get a supersprint race section and 2" backox, had that on my vtr with supersprit mani, and it sounded awesome and popped and banged loads
lwigmore
4th August 2010, 17:59
i agree with jamie, supersprint centre pipe is needed, i have one on my VTS with a piper backbox and that pops and bangs like no tomorrow as stokesy can confirm ;)
RAFkev
4th August 2010, 18:06
Hmmm
Maybe it's just a supersprint thing.
I have straight through magnex and get no popping.
The guy who mapped my car said he can make it pop by tweaking the map. Can't remember why or how though.
H-Unwin
4th August 2010, 18:24
On my VTR I have standard mani magnex decat and cat back it's reali quiet and when going flat in 3rd then changing to second it makes a lil pop. Nothing big just a noticeable one :P
stokesy
4th August 2010, 18:47
maybe its the magnex.. most othr systems seem to pop no problem..
and as lee said above, his superspriint mani and race section with the piper backbox pops and bangs like mad.. soudnd aweosme
Sam
4th August 2010, 18:48
2002 = mk2 sam! ;)
Fair enough, i miss read it :(
RachBabyX
4th August 2010, 18:58
mine pops now and then sounds nice though :) got vtr manifold on and a savage backbox on a 1.1 :)
wicked-vtr
4th August 2010, 19:03
Ive Got a btb 4-1 mani and a full btb 2.5" system, not heard any pops out of it, mabie im not driving it right lol
GJF47
4th August 2010, 19:44
Get a few pops and bangs on mine when I change down and its around 2k revs. Thats with Longlife cat back system and standard manifold.
Matty1991
4th August 2010, 21:00
God knows, must just be magnex for ya lol! Can you map the standard ecu on saxo's or is it a new ecu needed ?
Krys_23
4th August 2010, 21:09
Magnex are supposed to be quiet until you open the taps up anyway, a full 2" supersprint would make it pop like a mad man.
Junaid
4th August 2010, 21:12
how long has the full exhaust system been on for?
mine started popping after a few weeks and now pops all the time
Liam_
4th August 2010, 21:13
I had a VTR with Supersprint mani and Magnex single box system - no pops or bangs. Whack a Piper or Supersprint exhaust on and it probably will.
stokesy
4th August 2010, 21:17
remap the standard ecu will be completely pointless and waste of money for just an exhaust system to try and get it to pop, tbf itd probs decrease the chance of it popping..
imo sell up and get a new system :y:
french_baguette
4th August 2010, 21:18
My magnex only pops when you blip the throttle at high RPM, and when upshifting.
RAFkev
4th August 2010, 23:23
Magnex are supposed to be quiet until you open the taps up anyway, a full 2" supersprint would make it pop like a mad man.
My magnex is in no way quiet. Even idling! And sitting at 70 on the motorway is not pleasant!
laberridge
4th August 2010, 23:29
westy - raceland 4-2-1, magnex decat, stainless center (unknown make), piper backbox, no pops, raspy as fuke if drop your foot off accelrator at 5k+ revs
bluenotesmiley
4th August 2010, 23:41
My Magnex used to gurgle loads about 3.5k revs IIRC. If not it was 2.5k, but it used to gurgle loads, no pops and bangs though. SuperSprint system with 3" Piper backbox used to pop loads about 4k revs and on the engine run-off but when changing to PH3s and map it didn't pop or bang at all, even after getting bodies mapped onto it. Saying that it might be doing it but might not hear it over the bodies :)
Matty1991
4th August 2010, 23:55
A few pops wouldn't go a miss but i'm getting nothing on this magnex system :(
bluenotesmiley
5th August 2010, 00:11
The Magnex systems are pretty quiet. Mine never made much noise other then the usual exhaust drone/noise lol.
If you want pop try getting a SuperSprint Race centre section and cutting it to fit the sleeved fitment on the Magnex as this would then loose the centre silencer you have on the current Magnex system.
Fitting this centre section to my cousins car as opposed to the standard centre section made a big difference to his VTR. It went from just exhaust noise to popping a fair bit although this was with a 3.5" Piper rear silencer I would imagine it would act in a similar fashion.
nicole_
5th August 2010, 09:06
ive got a mij custom exhuast but i need the standard 1.1 backbox now, bf was gunna put a furio centre pipe on to keep it decat and told me its still gunna pop and be noisy, im not convinced, anyone confirm?
stokesy
5th August 2010, 09:15
is it standard mani nicole?
and it might, but a furio centre section snt going to be great, and a 1.1 backbox gunna lower the odds even more imo. i could be wrong, but i dont think it will with that backbox
nicole_
5th August 2010, 09:18
i thought with a supersprint centre pipe i have slightly more chance lol,
yeh its standard mani and mk1, so decats it.
wanna keep my custom one but i need a hidden backbox :(
stokesy
5th August 2010, 09:57
well benjee off here has standard mk1 mani and is borrowing my supersprint centre section and 2" backbox and thats popping a fair bit and a very nice noise..
maybe try something different.. i saw a rally with the exhaust coming out of the rear 1/4 just infront of the wheel.. would be good for your kinda theme as would be different, then you can have whatever backbox..
just an idea
jeffchiz
5th August 2010, 10:55
ive got a supersprint center section with standard mani and back box and it does pop from time to time and i have had 2 flames come out over the 6 or so months or owning it but exhaust systems need time to bed in it will probably pop more over time mine has only just started doing it
stokesy
5th August 2010, 10:57
shush u, u making me sound wrong lol :P..
i still rekon relocate where the backbox comes out off..
side exit ftw!! will be good on yours or nicoles theme :y:
nicole_
5th August 2010, 10:58
yeh ive considered it before, but with the vtec going in i need a custom exhuast made up, so no point getting one done yet :)
jeffchiz
5th August 2010, 10:59
shush u, u making me sound wrong lol :P..
i still rekon relocate where the backbox comes out off..
side exit ftw!! will be good on yours or nicoles theme :y:
lmao ill look in to it :P
stokesy
5th August 2010, 11:00
saw it on a bianca rallye looked awesome!!
and yea nicole look into it when the vtec goes in :y:
nicole_
5th August 2010, 11:03
with such a short exhuast though i can imagine it sounds quite different and would effect performance, i dunno, im abit of a noob :oops: but might just get a custom hidden one done as its more subtle then, and itll have its vtec purrrrr
Steve
5th August 2010, 11:07
get an extra 8valves ;)
stokesy
5th August 2010, 11:13
nah dont think itll effect it that much.. spesh not if it still a straight through..
just a though, would be good for the euro kinda theme you got going, they tend to go for 'different' lol..
nicole_
5th August 2010, 11:22
shh mines not euro, shes cleaned :p
stokesy
5th August 2010, 11:26
well its a grogeous car either way, shame its a mk1 though :n: :P hehe
nicole_
5th August 2010, 11:26
:shocked:
bitch :(
stokesy
5th August 2010, 11:40
haha sorry :hug:
we kinda messed up mateys thread, sorry bud lol
jeffchiz
5th August 2010, 12:50
:shocked:
bitch :(
dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
mean you should get upset lol
MK1's FTWWWWW
Newtz07
5th August 2010, 13:03
mines completely standard apart from Magnex back box and an induction.
and it pops its ass off.
in 1st, sharp acceleration, then 2nd, then dip the clutch.. and pop pop pop bang bang bang!
fuckin A
furio-james
5th August 2010, 13:47
If you want it to pop more get a FSE Power boost valve and decat and set the fuel pressure to 6bar haha that should do it!
Newtz07
5th August 2010, 13:47
dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
mean you should get upset lol
MK1's FTWWWWW
Mk1s FTW!
i have had 2 now. mainly coz i cant afford a mk 2!! lol
Mk1s look more manly i think though... but mk2s look sweet with the dimma grill and black light mod... so each to there own though.
Newtz07
5th August 2010, 13:48
If you want it to pop more get a FSE Power boost valve and decat and set the fuel pressure to 6bar haha that should do it!
Yer, then also cry as you can visually watch your fuel gauge hand move downwards!
furio-james
5th August 2010, 13:53
Haha yeah!
KamRacing
5th August 2010, 13:55
Yer, then also cry as you can visually watch your fuel gauge hand move downwards!
and cry even more as you force petrol past the piston rings, into the oil and screw your engine up :panic:
Newtz07
5th August 2010, 13:57
exactly... the only popping you will hear then will be the repairs garage as there popping a few more digits on the repair bill!
*wait for applause
thanks people!
i am here all day!
stokesy
5th August 2010, 14:48
dont get so emotional lol its your car just because he doesnt like mk1's doesnt
mean you should get upset lol
MK1's FTWWWWW
mk1's FTL!!! :n: lol..
course she should, be opinion means everything..
im god :D haha
lookinsaxo
5th August 2010, 15:08
Hmmm
Maybe it's just a supersprint thing.
I have straight through magnex and get no popping.
The guy who mapped my car said he can make it pop by tweaking the map. Can't remember why or how though.
where did you get your car mapped :) ?
jeffchiz
5th August 2010, 16:41
mk1's FTL!!! :n: lol..
course she should, be opinion means everything..
im god :D haha
lmao not too far up your own arse then :P
RAFkev
5th August 2010, 16:45
where did you get your car mapped :) ?
Andy Hammond aka Luthor1 aka genius behind the predator ecu.
stokesy
5th August 2010, 18:42
lmao not too far up your own arse then :P
that should be 'up your perfect arse then :p' haha..
nah i joke!! lol
Oc2
5th August 2010, 23:36
Standard mani and downpipe and brand new (100miles) standard system, nice burble and a few pops ;)
not sure of the cars history though, so might have been mapped then (?) and the guys took all the parts off and fitted OEM before selling up
Gareth_R
6th August 2010, 09:38
4-2-1 raceland, straight through 2.5" pipe to mongoose backbox
pops and burbles like a motherfucker on the overrun
also pops when changing 2nd to third at high revs
Lyum
6th August 2010, 11:34
Just blow the lambda sensor out of your standard system like I did last week and it pops like a bitch coming down through the revs :y:
Predator_R32
23rd September 2010, 23:33
Well seen as though it was my car ill explain why it doesnt pop, the magnex i had on was a twin box system hence why it wont pop ;)
Cammy
23rd September 2010, 23:38
If you come off the throttle and constantly light tap the throttle, should pop and bang in the powerband, my milltek enjoyed popping, and really want another one!!!
laberridge
24th September 2010, 00:51
or just loosen the manifold bolts so oxygen mixes with the fumes as this is what causes them to bang.
LEE_VTR1
24th September 2010, 05:41
or just loosen the manifold bolts so oxygen mixes with the fumes as this is what causes them to bang.
why would anyone do that mate, it'll sound like a bag of shit when on throttle
Paul
24th September 2010, 05:49
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laberridge
25th September 2010, 02:16
why would anyone do that mate, it'll sound like a bag of shit when on throttle
some people may like there saxo to sound like a fuked tractor :D
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