throttle bodied vts

[Bensvts]

For those who have throttle bodied vts's what sort of miles do you get on a full tank of fuel, and what did you get before when it didnt have the itb's?

Random question but wanted to know as mine is to be throttle bodied soon.

cheers

[Mochachino]

Throttle bodies can be more economical than standard so ive heard. Im yet to find out though!

[Richy_Rich]

Depends on the driving.....

Long motorway drives I can get roughly 200 miles to half tank,

but town driving i get about that to a tank

[ukgaz]

Also will depend on the mapping done on the car, if done incorrectly could loose out quite a bit

[dannygti]

mine is about just as good after boddies than before.. thats taking it easy though.

[Bensvts]

wicked cheers lads should get some pics of mine on here to be honest

[AndySAXO]

danny have you had your mapped yet?

and yer not too bad, depends how much you love the noise :P

[dannygti]

danny have you had your mapped yet?

and yer not too bad, depends how much you love the noise :P

yes mate :P

[AndySAXO]

ooo any chance of a graph? and what it made?

i like looking at graphs that all, see different cuvres, :D

[dannygti]

ooo any chance of a graph? and what it made?

i like looking at graphs that all, see different cuvres, :D

i havent got the graph, its at work.
it made 128@wheels. standard cam timing. would be more to come except id rather drive the car not spending all my time and money gaining 2bhp and 1lb ft lol

[AndySAXO]

stand cams that good, what torque? sorry to thread hijack :P

i got 136 bhp at the wheels are NMS on ph3 after they mapped it, before they mapped it, it was 128 bhp...

that good wheel figures, what box? diff?

would go read though your thread just to lazy today :P

[dannygti]

stand cams that good, what torque? sorry to thread hijack :P

i got 136 bhp at the wheels are NMS on ph3 after they mapped it, before they mapped it, it was 128 bhp...

that good wheel figures, what box? diff?

would go read though your thread just to lazy today :P


they are newmans ph3 cams andy. obviously standard compression etc etc..
it will do for now tbh, the only way to get half decent power is with a blower :P

[sexy_gt]

wish you had saved your money and gone forced? im debating the two NA/charger

[Ryan]

When both my saxos were running I had better MPG out of the high sec NA engine on bodies than a crappy 8v vtr lol.

[dannygti]

wish you had saved your money and gone forced? im debating the two NA/charger

not really because i got some parts at the right prices...
ive always planned forced induction the tb's was just a stepping stone to keep me happy. high spec n/a engines are all well and good but i dont believe they could match FI for pure pace. unless your on a V tight hill climb with proper gearbox I believe boost would make for an overall quicker car. :y:

[AndySAXO]

they are newmans ph3 cams andy. obviously standard compression etc etc..
it will do for now tbh, the only way to get half decent power is with a blower :P

yer i have ph3 and higher compression,

yer it hard, but boost is cheating... like i told tom :P

[AndySAXO]

danny dont hold the torque figures away from me! :P

[dannygti]

yer i have ph3 and higher compression,

yer it hard, but boost is cheating... like i told tom :P

danny dont hold the torque figures away from me! :P

how is it cheating? im not going to be bothered about "cheating" when im blasting past everything on track :P


ill have to check tommorow bout torque but i think its around 118lb ft

[AndySAXO]

it still cheating :P N/a still the way forword!!

[dannygti]

it still cheating :P N/a still the way forword!!

tell me how its cheating? it may be the way forward but boost is the way forward FASTER :p

[AndySAXO]

i am messing, i know it better bang for pound, but still cheating :P

[Beaniemoo]

I have to admit I'm with Andy on this one.
Not a fan of forced induction.
I have to admit, I've had a noticeable reduction in mpg since I put my car on carbs but it was worth it

[Bensvts]

Also will depend on the mapping done on the car, if done incorrectly could loose out quite a bit

i am getting my car mapped etc at pug1off i have heard there a good place.

by the way your from maidenhead so am i what car do you drive?:y:

[AndySAXO]

Pug1off dnt map the car nms do it for them, might be best going to nms direct could get a better price.

[axsaxoman]

it still cheating :P N/a still the way forword!!

how can that be be , its the way backwards,
when to build a fully specced n/a car ,which will give its large power (200) over very short rpm band and at very high rpm ,never pass an mot ,when with even light boost you can have that 200 over larger range of rpm and have a car that will give good mpg ,good emissions and be civilised to drive every day .

and once you have made the jump to s/c it costs small amounts extra to lift the bhp to what ever you you want ,as all the main costs are the same whether you go for 200-350

It costs more to tune to very high spec the n/a route --to get 200with n/a you need cams .solid lifters large vlaves srpings+caps +big head job +forged psitons+rods--so theres the price of mostthe s/c kit--you get 200 @wheels(230-240@fly) with std cams + 7psi+thicker h/gasket
you still need ecu system with either + large injectors+ dif clutch + engine mtgs + a GOOD 4-1 ex manifold --so the actual dif in price is very littleand results are totally different.
so once you go past the 160 -bhp fast road conversion you need to look closely at true costs before making statements about "bang per buck" .
my advice is always start with ecu system and mild cams --then you still can decide which way to go later ,whilst getting best from what you can afford .

[AndySAXO]

Dude man, I was just joking! As stated I know boost is better alround man.

It just a joke.

It still cheating in a way using mechical proresses instead of natural processes, but all I was doing it just messing around that all man, I put got to agree throttle bodies noise is the best :p

Think you read to much in to my little joke man. That all.

[Bensvts]

Pug1off dnt map the car nms do it for them, might be best going to nms direct could get a better price.

where abouts is nms?? anywhere near pug1off??

Also was going to get a emerald k6 ecu fitted by them so would it be best to go to nm's for all this or not ??

:y:

[AndySAXO]

Northampton motor sports in in northampton, unsure where pug1off is based, but Northampton motor sport map all pug1off cars, maybe worth contacting them to see if they could do a better price, they would used a omex system, and most likly root the loom and ecu inside the car inside of out side.

[Bensvts]

Northampton motor sports in in northampton, unsure where pug1off is based, but Northampton motor sport map all pug1off cars, maybe worth contacting them to see if they could do a better price, they would used a omex system, and most likly root the loom and ecu inside the car inside of out side.


yeah looked it up pug1off is not far from there, yeah have sent them an email just waiting on a reply and will compare the prices. cheers:y:

[maddison_vts]

n/a or boost? having watched itb'd vts' on track (including your own andy) and then driving and watching the boosted ones on track, i don't think i would ever even consider itb's.

[AndySAXO]

i was messing around really man, i am just a more of the n/a way, i know boost is better for overall power spread, as most n/a cars the power will be at the higher rpm, and will peak for a short time unlike boost.

it was just a joke more than eventhing, still throttle make a better noise :P

[Ryan]

I have to admit I'm with Andy on this one.
Not a fan of forced induction.
I have to admit, I've had a noticeable reduction in mpg since I put my car on carbs but it was worth it

Carbs are a big backwards step and not as efficient as injection tuning