How to get flames from a saxo

[skitts]

how to make a vtr flame ? without a flamer kit ;)

[beckha]

Pour petrol on, set it alight. Voila.

x

[scotthep]

Set it on firee !

On a serious note . . .

doubt youl get a vtr to flame even with 4-2-1 manifold and straight through exhaust!

[skitts]

oh not just some little ones >?

[loudandproud205]

little dots of petrol instead of pouring it all over?

[skitts]

what about backfiring then can you get a vtr to do that ?

[scotthep]

with a 4 branch manifold on and a straight through exhaust you should be able to get it backfire!

[loudandproud205]

why would you want a backfire?

Dont you like your engine?

[skitts]

i have got a straight thru but im thinking of getting a piper straight thru instead as they sound better and more raspier than my car

[KamRacing]

You are going to need a good manifold, no cat and a good exhaust. Its going to need to scavenge fuel from the inlet. It may not pop much without something like a camshaft but you may get a few.

[outrage_uk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQa_elUAak

^ I know its VTS but you get the idea....

[Mochachino]

Plans for Saxo:

Make it spit flames.

grow up.

[jakeyboi]

doubt you will get a vtr flamming mate

[wicked-vtr]

Ive never heard my vts even make a pop with a 4-1, saxsport and a set of piper 285's

[-shuggles-]

Plans for Saxo:

Make it spit flames.

grow up.

+1 great for making people back off at the traffic lights

[scotthep]

not bad for melting snow either ;)

[GoonS_VTR]

Why would you want flames? how old are you

[devilsadvocate]

how to make a vtr flame ? without a flamer kit ;)

Dude....really??
You been watching too much fast and the furious?

[crabzy]

put a lighter next your exhaust well reeving it :y:.

[KamRacing]

Why would you want flames? how old are you

Once I wire up my sequential box gear selector to my ecu my car will pop a flame on every gearchange as it retards the ignition. Flames are cool if part of the natural combustion.
Flames with flamer kits are rubbish and should certainly be left to bad american films.

[boabVTR]

Once I wire up my sequential box gear selector to my ecu my car will pop a flame on every gearchange as it retards the ignition. Flames are cool if part of the natural combustion.
Flames with flamer kits are rubbish and should certainly be left to bad american films.

high 5 mate flames are cool. my mates mk2 escort used to go off like a shotgun. it was great people used to shit themselves lol. how much is the sequential box setup costing you.

[Mochachino]

I dont think Kam is wiring up up his sequential box gear selector to get flames lol

[SaxSpeed]

flames and a back fire = 2 different things

i get backfire all the time all you do is in gear about 4k rpm or higher dip the clutch and dump it,

used to have a clio that while driving along you cut the ignition and put ur foot down while still in gear, then turn ignition back on and it goes tits fireing flames and backfireing haha

[tom51]

i did this last winter when i borrowed the works courtesy car a (nissan cherry):fcuk: haha was great until i let it over run all the way down the town with choke out ...very looud bang big flame and the silencer flew off

[SaxSpeed]

i did this last winter when i borrowed the works courtesy car a (nissan cherry):fcuk: haha was great until i let it over run all the way down the town with choke out ...very looud bang big flame and the silencer flew off

lucky u never blew a hole in the piston lol

[SaxSpeed]

infact even taping the throtle on the over run makes it backfire

[boabVTR]

I dont think Kam is wiring up up his sequential box gear selector to get flames lol

naw never is he. duhhhh :clapping:

[Matt-T]

I have seen a VTR flame before at a show, flame was about 2 maybe 3" in size.. but bloke drove like a complete prick and it sounded shit (the engine did)

[Gazer]

think this one has bullets in his exhaust lool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgEfyy6131w&feature=related

[SaxSpeed]

think this one has bullets in his exhaust lool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgEfyy6131w&feature=related

that car sounds so pish haha i got distracted by this video LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-f6v7UJiQU&NR=1&feature=fvwp)

what a wanker eh haha

[boabVTR]

that car sounds so pish haha i got distracted by this video LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-f6v7UJiQU&NR=1&feature=fvwp)

what a wanker eh haha

that video is a pure cheese fest lol. your rite whata wanker. haha

[KamRacing]

high 5 mate flames are cool. my mates mk2 escort used to go off like a shotgun. it was great people used to shit themselves lol. how much is the sequential box setup costing you.

£3.6k for a load of bits and a lot more to go to get the gearboxes restored into something that works.

I dont think Kam is wiring up up his sequential box gear selector to get flames lol

Well I could lift off the accelerator but once I found that the gearlever had the mechanism and it would pop flames I knew it had to be done

I'm a child, but a screaming normally aspirated engine with straight cut gears whining and flames popping out the rear really floats my boat.

Kev

[skitts]

well i was just after advice as some people are telling me to grow up by seeing if i can make a vtr pop and backfire and maybe flame i have personally seen a vtr flame so it is proff it can be done

[D--R--E--W]

well i was just after advice as some people are telling me to grow up by seeing if i can make a vtr pop and backfire and maybe flame i have personally seen a vtr flame so it is proff it can be done

Yes it can be done mate, but it is usually associated with chavy little pricks trying to impress their mates and 15 year old girls...

[titchster]

Stock manifold, and a decat was enough to make my 16v spit flames.

8v never did it though, even with an aftermarket manifold.

[skitts]

ok well if you think it's chavvy i wont bother ;)

[Jungle]

I love flames, my rallye used to flame on standard manifold and s/s exhaust with decat!

[iw_laurence]

my 8v did when i had rallye inlet, wild cam, supersprint 4-2-1, full superspint 2" system with decat and some superrrr unleaded ;)

[Coonper]

I can make any car with a decat and a single ignition coil flame nicely.

Heres my old astra ;)

Astra flaming (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/Coonper/?action=view&current=MOV00120.mp4)

It actual flames on every bang, but the camera doesnt pick it up...

[tom51]

how?????????

[bengtt5]

its called having a switch that cuts power to your coil

[SaxSpeed]

thats basicly flamer kit lol

[Coonper]

thats basicly flamer kit lol

Far from it...

As said, a switch that cuts power to the coil. Then when you flick off the switch, the spark stops, the ecu is still fueling the chambers, then you flick the ignition back on, and BOOOOMMM!!!!!! :drink:

[bengtt5]

and eventually itll boom for its last time
normally ive seen melted valves

[Coonper]

and eventually itll boom for its last time
normally ive seen melted valves

I did it for over a year, and never went a day without having a booming session. Never missed a beat.

Then did it on my next car too! I know 10's of people who do it.

[rorz_vts]

and eventually itll boom for its last time

yea my mate used to do this in his vtr then his c20xe then on his c20let fucked the coils on all off them

[Coonper]

yea my mate used to do this in his vtr then his c20xe then on his c20let fucked the coils on all off them

Cant say any of my XE's have ever suffered from it, nor have the coils...

[-shuggles-]

I got told its bad for valve stem oil seals?

sounds great when its natural backfires tho:y:

[saxdazza]

my 8v pops and bangs sometimes when you let off after giving it some or when i drop through the gears :) never tried to make it flame though.

[Lewis1600]

My old VTR had a raceland 4-2-1 - decat- striaght through - Peco Backbox

Used to spit flames, bang, pop when ever I wanted it to really..

Was over fueling a tad though ;)

Used to love it when doing some spirited driving changing gear and a little bang from the back or on down shifts around about 4krpm :P

[skitts]

was it mk1 or mk2 ? and mine pops now and again but not alot

[jeppy24]

My vtr pops and bangs all the time, its sounds good but it dosent flame. Only way too get it to flame is to have no boxes in the exhaust at all so a 4-2-1 mTiold and a pipe all the way to the back (no backbox) then you need to set the car up so that it over fuels like mad and the spark plug sparks late then it might flames.

[Lewis1600]

was it mk1 or mk2 ? and mine pops now and again but not alot

Its was a 2001 mate mk2 98bhp....

sounded really good..


I had another VTR then an 02 plate i put a mk1 manifold on it (decat) and the same backbox... and i could make that pop aswell...

but not on shifts etc....

[titchster]

My vtr pops and bangs all the time, its sounds good but it dosent flame. Only way too get it to flame is to have no boxes in the exhaust at all so a 4-2-1 mTiold and a pipe all the way to the back (no backbox) then you need to set the car up so that it over fuels like mad and the spark plug sparks late then it might flames.

Not true. I had standard manifold, a centre silencer, and a huge backbox (as in actual backbox was long, not a big tailpipe), and on my 16v that setup would spit flames on upchange, or if I tapped the throttle at anything over 5k.


Having a cat will stop flames though.

[jonesyFX]

courtesy of Aly

CLICKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOIKxeW2HM)

[bengtt5]

courtesy of Aly

CLICKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOIKxeW2HM)

bit wobbly with the camera aint ya

[citroen_saxo_vtr]

My 16v spit flames big time lol follow me down the road skitts then you will see what i mean :P full decat works a treat!! apparently it shoot a big flame a foot long out the back haha.

[minimanspk]

if you wanna make flames ask the guy at bassets pole who owned the black saxo I would of thought he would have a few tricks up his sleeve

[J222JRA]

Flames from your exhaust.....i wish my Saxo was that cool............

[raunchz]

petrol and a lighter

[liamo90]

video of mine spitting flames with standard manifold decat and desilencer with a standard backbox and over fueling whoops :/

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy240/liamo90/th_MOV00188.jpg (http://s795.photobucket.com/albums/yy240/liamo90/?action=view&current=MOV00188.mp4)

[MartinDines]

My Furio with a piper 4-1 + supersprint c/s & KamRacing backbox backfires all the time. its actually pretty annoying.

Even when I'm driving around town in 4th at 30 it crackles and pops.

[Duddy]

i have a standard 1.1 with a k&n , standard mk1 manifold from a vtr (include vtr downpipe) straight threw pipe from a mk2 and a vauxhall oval backbox customized to fit saxo and it backfires with a flame coming out about 1ft long no joke!!!!

[-shuggles-]

i have a standard 1.1 with a k&n , standard mk1 manifold from a vtr (include vtr downpipe) straight threw pipe from a mk2 and a vauxhall oval backbox customized to fit saxo and it backfires with a flame coming out about 1ft long no joke!!!!

get some video's:y:

[Gumbo]

my mk1 vtr with a decat 2inch saxsport spits little flames..

[Duddy]

need to sort out the recent blow in my exhaust for it to work again lol, anyway looking for a 2" sax-sport or pug-sport system, any ideas? also 4-2-1

[Furio-Gazza]

video of mine spitting flames with standard manifold decat and desilencer with a standard backbox and over fueling whoops :/

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy240/liamo90/th_MOV00188.jpg (http://s795.photobucket.com/albums/yy240/liamo90/?action=view&current=MOV00188.mp4)

ahah, nice video matey :y:

[liamo90]

it used to pop and spit flames randomly which aint to bad when people are up your arse they soon back off lol ;)

[Aly]

courtesy of Aly

CLICKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOIKxeW2HM)

bit wobbly with the camera aint ya

lol only just noticed this.

I must add only reason my VTR popped a flame was because I didn't have a lambda probe and it was over fuelling badly lol, Still made 110bhp :D

[Sharpie-DJ]

:homme: My pitbike does it.

[saxoclarke]

:homme: My pitbike does it.
My old demon x pitbike used to spit really nice bluey green flames because it was over fueling :L


As for making a saxo spit flames ...complete 2 more drag races go to a garage and install a direct injection nos kit :L and put some stickers and neons on the car also helps.

[MangoJake]

Backfire? Rev like mad then switch engine off. Then you will get a backfire. And lots of flames. Not out the exhaust tho :)

[titchster]

Backfire? Rev like mad then switch engine off. Then you will get a backfire. And lots of flames. Not out the exhaust tho :)

Doesn't work properly on cars with injection, since the ECU cuts injecting as soon as the engine's off. Only works on carb'd cars.

[LSOfreak]

my vtr pops and bangs like mad. I havent seen it flame but friends behind have, only when its warmed up though. Decat peco 4inch with a nissan sunny pipe :cool: real jap zorst y0

[Sean_VTR]

my vtr pops nicely, when slowing down or dropping down a gear i find..

[xxo0pko0xx]

Once I wire up my sequential box gear selector to my ecu my car will pop a flame on every gearchange as it retards the ignition. Flames are cool if part of the natural combustion.
Flames with flamer kits are rubbish and should certainly be left to bad american films.

Completly agree

[tarzan]

if im in 2nd geear at 4000rpm ish and i tap the throttle i get nice poppin out the exhaust some loud enough. only seen flame once wen a mate took it round a sweepin bend at 55mph in second. oh its a furio with 4-2-1 decat scorpion backbox.

[carlsmith715]

Doesn't work properly on cars with injection, since the ECU cuts injecting as soon as the engine's off. Only works on carb'd cars.

my mate had a civic which was injected and not carbed and got flames from switching it off while revving

[saxoclarke]

my mate had a civic which was injected and not carbed and got flames from switching it off while revving

Because its a big ish engine it most probably uses the leftover fuel in the pipes and cylenders but no ignition source, no falme untill rezches the red hot exhaust but i could be wrong.Sounds good though heh :P .

[dan_dan_the_saxo_man]

my 1.1 pops some backfiring but im not sure if thats a good thing 0.0, probably after 30 seconds+ of high rev driving

[smallboi90]

my mate had a civic which was injected and not carbed and got flames from switching it off while revving

he has a fuelling problem :homme:

[lillocky]

i normally get a hobbit to sit on the back and fire a flamethrower! :)

[Oc2]

This threads just a little childish

Im sure a car that has licks of flame coming out the exhaust is probaly not all that practical for road use?

Id guess the AFR is impossibly shit to have enough unburnt fuel reaching the exhasut to cause flames every down change

Popping i can understand though, just a slight over fuel, can be worked into re-maps