can I move the pistons.

[toxic]

What I would like to know is can I move the pistons when the head is off; it’s just too clean them and the inside.:y:

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/toxic20011/106%20GTI%20engine%20rebuild/engine0072.jpg

[saxo-parts]

yes you can , just remember it'll all need timing up afterwards

[iSlayeR]

edit nvm

[blackie_2k5]

spanner/ratchet on flywheel/crank, how many miles on that lump mate? Quite a bit carbon/grime on them, did it smoke at all

[rorz_vts]

[QUOTE=blackie_2k5;5034082]spanner/ratchet on flywheel/crank, how many miles on that lump mate? Quite a bit carbon/grime on them,
thats nothing to how mine came out

[toxic]

spanner/ratchet on flywheel/crank, how many miles on that lump mate? Quite a bit carbon/grime on them, did it smoke at all
only 56 its oil my fault lol:oops:

[toxic]

yes you can , just remember it'll all need timing up afterwards

how do you time up the pistons m8 :y:

[saxo-parts]

once you've cleaned it all up turn the crank until the timing pin will go into the flywheel hole, then time the cams up prior to refitting the head, simples

[toxic]

once you've cleaned it all up turn the crank until the timing pin will go into the flywheel hole, then time the cams up prior to refitting the head, simples

thenks m8 did not know about the pin on the flywheel hole :y:

[mark1311]

if you had put engine in tdc befor removing the head, you could of locked the head off and then you could of moved the pistones up and down then wouldt of needed to time cams bk up.

[toxic]

once you've cleaned it all up turn the crank until the timing pin will go into the flywheel hole, then time the cams up prior to refitting the head, simples

were abouts on the fly wheel is the hole you line up m8

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/toxic20011/106%20GTI%20engine%20rebuild/pix043.jpg

[ryanmt]

Its from the other side you lock the flywheel. It sounds like your quite inexperience with this, fair play for having a go but I would get some help from somewhere for the reassembly to make sure its done right or you might end up with an expensive mistake on your hands.

Also when cleaning the tops of the pistions try to minimise the bits you get down the side of the bores, bits of grit etc can get stuck and damaged the cylinder wall/piston rings

[toxic]

Its from the other side you lock the flywheel. It sounds like your quite inexperience with this, fair play for having a go but I would get some help from somewhere for the reassembly to make sure its done right or you might end up with an expensive mistake on your hands.

Also when cleaning the tops of the pistions try to minimise the bits you get down the side of the bores, bits of grit etc can get stuck and damaged the cylinder wall/piston rings

yes i am inexperienced thought i would give it a go, can not be that hard to do lol :y:

[toxic]

if you had put engine in tdc befor removing the head, you could of locked the head off and then you could of moved the pistones up and down then wouldt of needed to time cams bk up.

hi there head is at tdc but the pistons had moved :y:

[tajktm]

Get a Haynes manual, they are about £12. It'll tell you all you need to know.

[toxic]

Get a Haynes manual, they are about £12. It'll tell you all you need to know.

I have 1 and it dont tell me how to have the pistons ? just the timing :clapping:

[toxic]

dont any 1 on here know how the pistons on a 106 gti have to be before you put the head on.

[saxo-parts]

no 1 and 4 at tdc iirc, just get the pin in the flywheel, surely if you search on here it'll tell you, it certainly tells you how to in the haynes book under timing belt replacement

[blackie_2k5]

Its from the other side you lock the flywheel. It sounds like your quite inexperience with this, fair play for having a go but I would get some help from somewhere for the reassembly to make sure its done right or you might end up with an expensive mistake on your hands.

Also when cleaning the tops of the pistions try to minimise the bits you get down the side of the bores, bits of grit etc can get stuck and damaged the cylinder wall/piston rings

as ryan sais this is imortant, if not removing the pistons, if you can.... try cleaing it upside down on the work bench with the bore your doing at the time hanging off the bench, and use an airline to help clean out the crap, just make sure you dont blast shit down the side of the rings when using the airline...... not a common way of doing things but it should minimize the amount of shit have getting down the sides of the pistons

[toxic]

no 1 and 4 at tdc iirc, just get the pin in the flywheel, surely if you search on here it'll tell you, it certainly tells you how to in the haynes book under timing belt replacement

ok you tell me what page read on and you will see some 1 said its not the fly wheel :n:

[blackie_2k5]

it really does show youthe locking off points in the haynes book lol, as said, read the timiong belt replacement section, make sure your reading the right section about the engine youve got, and it will explain it to you

[saxo-parts]

ok you tell me what page read on and you will see some 1 said its not the fly wheel :n:

sorry but don't use haynes manuals that often so can't quote page number, all the saxo/106 engines i've worked on have had a flywheel locking pin and i do work on them from time to time

[Saxotim]

quick paint sketch of wwhere the flywheel locking pin hole is. iirc its a 6mm hole and a drill bit/pin will drop into it when you turn the crank round so the pistons are at TDC

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c262/deany_/FLYWHEELHOLE.png

[saxdazza]

this an 8 or 16v ?

[blackie_2k5]

doesnt matter the block is the same, but i think its 16v

[saxo-parts]

the same locking procedure covers them all,even the diesels. Looks like a 16V engine in the OPs pic

[toxic]

it really does show youthe locking off points in the haynes book lol, as said, read the timiong belt replacement section, make sure your reading the right section about the engine youve got, and it will explain it to you

thanks for your help m8 i have the gist now lol :y: