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J222JRA
2nd February 2011, 19:29
Guys on the front of a mk2 vts engine above the manifold is what i believe is the Air valve which helps with cold starts??

Does this make a difference or is it pointless??

Just wondering as i would like to remove it ....looks dam ugly.

Thankyou in advance.
Ryan
2nd February 2011, 19:30
why worry you dont drive the thing anyway :D

But yes it can be removed, which is why you used to see alot of 1/2ps glued onto the side of saxo heads lol
Fulch
2nd February 2011, 19:50
Guys on the front of a mk2 vts engine above the manifold is what i believe is the Air valve which helps with cold starts??

Does this make a difference or is it pointless??

Just wondering as i would like to remove it ....looks dam ugly.

Thankyou in advance.

Pics cos I wont mind know what your talking about lol
MJ05LLY
2nd February 2011, 19:56
Are we on about the thing in the bottom centre of my pic?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/MattyJ_c20xe/Saxo%20project/IMG_1833.jpg

As i was wondering why some people didnt have these too
J222JRA
2nd February 2011, 20:08
why worry you dont drive the thing anyway :D

But yes it can be removed, which is why you used to see alot of 1/2ps glued onto the side of saxo heads lol

LOL...i will have you know its moved twice this year already!!

Hmmm may remove it then tbh, thanks Ryan.

Pics cos I wont mind know what your talking about lol

See below buddy :y:

Are we on about the thing in the bottom centre of my pic?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/MattyJ_c20xe/Saxo%20project/IMG_1833.jpg

As i was wondering why some people didnt have these too

Yes thats it mate.....looks ugly as fuck.
MJ05LLY
3rd February 2011, 12:24
So is this a case of bung the hole up on the side of the head and then just remove all the pipe work?
Anything we should keep/remove that may be important?

Also why is it there? whats it purpose if everyone removes them because we dont need them?
LeeM
3rd February 2011, 13:41
Pumps warm air in on cold starts to get emissions down. Somethin like that. U can remove it
Matt-T
3rd February 2011, 13:45
yeah there a form of control i think... my vaux has one.. pointless tbh
badasssaxo
3rd February 2011, 13:53
was going to ask about this very thing myself

where is the pump that puts the warm air into it can it also be removed

also is there an actual blanking plate to use rather than a 2p glued on that my fall off
Tontsy
3rd February 2011, 13:56
admit it James...you want to clean it.
J222JRA
3rd February 2011, 15:18
admit it James...you want to clean it.

*shakes head

Well actually yeah lol
gaz4399
3rd February 2011, 15:21
remove the whole system, looks a lot better

the pump and all pipes go down behind the front bumper on the nearside of the car
ashw106rallye
3rd February 2011, 15:33
its called erg valve
Furioman
3rd February 2011, 16:42
cough EGR Cough Exhaust gas recirculation, pretty self explanatory
moxy89
3rd February 2011, 16:46
i blocked the hole using a pound coin, atleast my car is worth atleast a pound.
J222JRA
3rd February 2011, 19:22
its called erg valve

cough EGR Cough Exhaust gas recirculation, pretty self explanatory

Its not an EGR Valve.
AlexB
3rd February 2011, 19:33
its called erg valve

cough EGR Cough Exhaust gas recirculation, pretty self explanatory

ok go find were it gets the "gas" from??


james its just a pump mines gone and just made a little plate to bolt on were it was on the head at work job done try and get an early model front cam ladder too as it doent have the mounting studs which arent pretty too
Liam_
3rd February 2011, 19:37
Pump is in passenger side wheel arch, just infront of the arch liner.

I junked mine as the pump never worked.
J222JRA
3rd February 2011, 20:50
ok go find were it gets the "gas" from??


james its just a pump mines gone and just made a little plate to bolt on were it was on the head at work job done try and get an early model front cam ladder too as it doent have the mounting studs which arent pretty too

Nah i need that mounting point for a plan i have lol.
AlexB
3rd February 2011, 21:03
Nah i need that mounting point for a plan i have lol.

gay covers to hide the manifold are not cool.......
axsaxoman
3rd February 2011, 21:04
cough EGR Cough Exhaust gas recirculation, pretty self explanatory
except for the fact it is not EGR --your vauxhall is --but not this stystem
this system adds extra frsh air --slightly warmed by coming through the cylinder head --this ofsets the lambda value seen by probe ,so it actaully richens up the fuelling when engine is cold making it idle better --engine warms up + pump turns off .
EGR is fitted not only for cold start but for another purpose --but i won,t go into that

yes dump it all no need for it
J222JRA
3rd February 2011, 21:14
gay covers to hide the manifold are not cool.......

Why on earth would i want to hide a piper manifold.....its a work of art. It defo not going to be used for something shite like that.

except for the fact it is not EGR --your vauxhall is --but not this stystem
this system adds extra frsh air --slightly warmed by coming through the cylinder head --this ofsets the lambda value seen by probe ,so it actaully richens up the fuelling when engine is cold making it idle better --engine warms up + pump turns off .
EGR is fitted not only for cold start but for another purpose --but i won,t go into that

yes dump it all no need for it

Thanks John, i was hoping you would comment. :y:
AlexB
3rd February 2011, 21:17
Why on earth would i want to hide a piper manifold.....its a work of art. It defo not going to be used for something shite like that.

kinda miss my piper :S

have a btb now though :D
gonna get another piper to hack up at some point unless i go maniflow haha ££££ :(