Vts throttle bodies and cams

[Jase125]

Hey guys, I am going to start doing few engine mods to the vts now I just wanna know is what good set up of throttle bodies is to have with cams aswell. I want a kit I was looking a gmc or jenveys on kam racing I'm just not sure and on the cams! Using it for road use... Buy still want good setup :) cheers.

[mark1311]

get ph3 or 708's best cam on a standard bottom end, will be around 170bhp, if u wont more power u need ph4 or ph5 cam but then u need forged pistones soild tappets etc and will add few grand to the bill.

also will need standalone

[luthor1]

AT Power bodies from GMC,
Bike bodies from Sandy Brown/Colin Satchell

These are the good ones at the moment, best bang-for-bucks.

Cams - on stock pistons you're stuck with 708/PH3 maximum. If you want to go PH4, drop in for high comp forgies, JP4 head/J4 springs etc, lightweight flywheel, manifold straight through exhaust you'll be over 170bhp

...obviously I can sort an ECU out and mapping for you! :)

Andy

[luthor1]

LOL-Twin post :)

[AlexB]

get ph3 or 708's best cam on a standard bottom end, will be around 170bhp, if u wont more power u need ph4 or ph5 cam but then u need forged pistones soild tappets etc and will add few grand to the bill.

also will need standalone

More like 160 mark jp got 170 on high comps and 708s but standard pistons normally lower 160-165 figures are what id expect


Id go bike bodies and colin satchell bits omex 600 and newman ph3s tbh

[AndySAXO]

Yer 170 a bit on that sort of spec would be more like 155 to 160 bhp.

My cams where set aggressive and have high comps and I have 140 at the wheels, but that was right on the upper side on the power.

Would say with 708 and bodies, aim for 160 and should be happy.

[AndySAXO]

Also depends on what dyno you go too ;)

[mark1311]

chipwizards will easyyyyyy see him 170;)

[sexy_gt]

708, AT, pred, 330cc see me at 131 fly at dennis vessey! 105atw. my car or his dyno?

[AndySAXO]

I am not saying anything to that.

But yer to the op question, with cams and bodies will be a healthy 155 160.

[AndySAXO]

Seem about down mate, need to take it somewhere else first see what you get.

What duty is the injectors at? Was the injectors cleaned and checked to make sure they are flowing correctly aswell.

[sexy_gt]

brand new sealed packed 330s 63% according to A.Hammond

[AndySAXO]

Well did Andy work it out to see what that equal to on the bhp? With that cc injectors and the duty.

Will give you a rough idea, what fpr?

[sexy_gt]

standard 3.0fpr

andy said 63% possibly 65 at one point.

his calculation was 165-170

i am booked and paid for both my saxo vts to go for several rolls at COURTEN MILLER at the end of august

dyno dynamics machine.

http://www.corten-miller.co.uk/

will be interesting as my other vts (silver one 2003) only has ind and sportcat system.

[AndySAXO]

dyno dynamics dyno alot of mappers I speak to don't like them dyno due to the way they are calibrated. But I know much about it. Just what I was told but many mappers.

Yer well maybe the rollers where not that good.

Soon see then, hope it what you want.

[axsaxoman]

don,t forget our cams ,which give same power as 708.s/ph3 £200+vat=£240 ,made on new blanks +run with hydraulic lifters

[axsaxoman]

708, AT, pred, 330cc see me at 131 fly at dennis vessey! 105atw. my car or his dyno?
could by either or both ,what does a std vts get on his dyno?
If engine is good you should be getting 150+ ish on single t/body + 708.s

[e8_pqck]

Does the car feel noticeably faster?

[sexy_gt]

dyno dynamics dyno alot of mappers I speak to don't like them dyno due to the way they are calibrated. But I know much about it. Just what I was told but many mappers.

Yer well maybe the rollers where not that good.

Soon see then, hope it what you want.

yes me too

could by either or both ,what does a std vts get on his dyno?
If engine is good you should be getting 150+ ish on single t/body + 708.s

im on at power with filter. a c2 vts went on after me remaped with performance manifold and decat system made 95atw

Does the car feel noticeably faster?

not as much as expected but yes, more noticable on the track. fly past standard vts.

[Jase125]

Another thing i forgot to ask guys... what else is needed when i get teh cams changed? do you have to take the head off on the 16 to change the cams or not? Cheers.

[rorz_vts]

a cam belt and i'd do the water pump whilst you have the belt off, you wont have to remove the head to put them in. Ive got a set of piper 285's for sale if your interested same profile as ph3's and 708's

[sexy_gt]

a cam belt and i'd do the water pump whilst you have the belt off, you wont have to remove the head to put them in. Ive got a set of piper 285's for sale if your interested same profile as ph3's and 708's

i would fit new lifters and engine oil change too.

[Jase125]

Ill change the oil, i havnt long ago changed the belt and water pump etc so theres no need to change all that. how much is the lifters?

[J222JRA]

For the price of a new cambelt id never replace an old one.

[sexy_gt]

Ill change the oil, i havnt long ago changed the belt and water pump etc so theres no need to change all that. how much is the lifters?

i got a set from newmans £185 delivered.

gmc sell them too.

theyre expensive but you will be sick if you fit new cams and they make the old lifters noisey!

[qrty]

don,t forget our cams ,which give same power as 708.s/ph3 £200+vat=£240 ,made on new blanks +run with hydraulic lifters

What are the full specs off these?

[Darkslider]

Head stays on, new cambelt tensioners seals and gaskets all need doing really.

[Darkslider]

What are the full specs off these?

+1 , be interested to hear if Anyone has fitted these yet, any opinions or dump figures?

[Beaniemoo]

More like 160 mark jp got 170 on high comps and 708s but standard pistons normally lower 160-165 figures are what id expect


Id go bike bodies and colin satchell bits omex 600 and newman ph3s tbh

I got 173hp at the fly with just 285 cams, piper manifold, jenvey bodies and some headwork, all on standard internals... :)

[vts91]

I got 173hp at the fly with just 285 cams, piper manifold, jenvey bodies and some headwork, all on standard internals... :)

How long did you have the car like that, how reliable was it?

Cheers

[Beaniemoo]

How long did you have the car like that, how reliable was it?

Cheers

err...

5 days

Not great

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/moo0484/3fcface9.jpg

[joe333]

err...

5 days

Not great

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/moo0484/3fcface9.jpg

WTF:panic: how did that happen??

[Beaniemoo]

Peugeot 106 Rallye trackday blow up - YouTube

Sorry for the thread highjack

[joe333]

ohh no that gutting mate :n:

[nazmitocak]

What about OİL Pump ? Do we have to upgrade the pump ?

[AndySAXO]

Standard Saxo oil pumps are not too bad, my oil pressure is always good,