got my jp4 vts mapped on monday 163.9bhp...

[white_vtr]

as said, i took my car to wayne at chipwizards on monday to get it mapped, got a printout of 163.9bhp.
put a pic of the rr printout on facebook and few people moaning that it couldnt of got that much power and that his rollers are out?

my engine spec is:
tu5jp4 engine with 21k
p&p head
c2 newman ph3 cams
newman valve springs
p&p throttlebody
4-2-1 manifold
supersprint race system with decat
k&n gen 2 induction kit

think there just abit jelouse i got good power or is that too high, my mate got his cammed 106 mapped half a hour before me and got 153.4 so if they were out wouldnt his be high aswell?

[Pau1os]

that seems pritty good to me mate, maybe if it was over 170 id be abit suspisious about the dyno but thats goood :)

[white_vtr]

thanks and yeah well waynes a pretty legit guy, people come from germany he was saying to get their porsches mapped so i wouldnt think his rollers would be out tbh but just wanted peoples opinions :)

[blackie_2k5]

get it on next sat mate, £35 and youll know the figures for a fact,

defo worth another set of rollers as these are pretty damn accurate, then if its the right figures youll be able to laugh at them all

as said before long as it drives good thats all that matters, but still nice to have 2 sets of figures from dif rollers to badck up any claims in your mind :y:

[white_vtr]

get it on next sat mate, £35 and youll know the figures for a fact,

defo worth another set of rollers as these are pretty damn accurate, then if its the right figures youll be able to laugh at them all

as said before long as it drives good thats all that matters, but still nice to have 2 sets of figures from dif rollers to badck up any claims in your mind :y:

aye am still going next sat, few of my mates putting theirs on aswell, il go on if i can spare the money, got insurence tax and mot to pay for but im sure i can lend it off someone :y:

[blackie_2k5]

sweet, im orgainsing a convoy from the angel of the north carppark at quarter to 9 if you'se want to join us from there?

[white_vtr]

i would but i live in consett so would be easier to meet yous there mate, you putting yours on the rollers?

[AndySAXO]

Any torque figures.... Always take It with a pinch of salt.

Would say more 150 -155 bhp range. If it goes well then it all goOd.

[blackie_2k5]

i would but i live in consett so would be easier to meet yous there mate, you putting yours on the rollers?

do you? leeroy is coming, maybe you could meet up with him, hes in stanley

and yeah although i shouldnt really as its not gonna make anything worth writing hime about, the map needs tweaking as the induction i have on is restricting badly and has sapped all the torque

skint myslef. i had to fork out for insurance on the 3rd..was hefty now its turbo'd lol, wasnt expecting it till sept :( mustnt have been pauying too much attention, got tax next week, and mot on the 14th :fcuk:

[white_vtr]

nah i asked for torque figures but he said it would be a fuck on or something, it does go well like, but i drove my mates z20let astra van running 300bhp so now want something boosted, so saxo might be going up for sale :(

[blackie_2k5]

nah i asked for torque figures but he said it would be a fuck on or something, it does go well like, but i drove my mates z20let astra van running 300bhp so now want something boosted, so saxo might be going up for sale :(

boost is mint :D

this RR day gives two graphs, one with wheel figure and AFR's, and one with fly figure and torque

[white_vtr]

do you? leeroy is coming, maybe you could meet up with him, hes in stanley

and yeah although i shouldnt really as its not gonna make anything worth writing hime about, the map needs tweaking as the induction i have on is restricting badly and has sapped all the torque

skint myslef. i had to fork out for insurance on the 3rd..was hefty now its turbo'd lol, wasnt expecting it till sept :( mustnt have been pauying too much attention, got tax next week, and mot on the 14th :fcuk:

whats wrong with the induction? and iv just got a letter through for my car, insurence runs out on the 1st august :/ thought it was middle of august :wall: oh well i wonder how much there gonna stiff me now i have 3 points on me licence

[blackie_2k5]

whats wrong with the induction? and iv just got a letter through for my car, insurence runs out on the 1st august :/ thought it was middle of august :wall: oh well i wonder how much there gonna stiff me now i have 3 points on me licence

old set up on 10psi made 163.?bhp and 162lbft of torque, it had no airfilter lol, which made it suck hot air straigth off turbo mani and run pretty hot, especially in traffic..not ideal or safe for the turbo

i put new exhasut on, which isnt the best and may be sapping some of the power slightly, but is good sytem for now

and put new induction on, was booked in for mapping next day so tried to fit filter night before.. and because of the turbo angle couldnt get it on, so i had to make a pipe using the elbow the kid i bought turbo kit of had, at a guess the elbow is 2" and the turbo intake is 3" or so, so its restricted to fuck tyring to suck air past that from one of those corrugated tubes to the filter behind the bumper,

we mapped it and upped the boost with new bits on and it did make it a bit quicker, but nothing for what it should, and appears to have lost alot of torque..may just be me but lee thinks so aswell?

im guesisng this is a major contributor, so im binning filter altogether, getting some proper hard boost pipe and silcone elbows, and ducting a force feed straight from where the inner morette is now, with some s/s fine mesh as filter, but itll need a map tweak for that, and my mapper is on hol :n:

still gonna get it on though...

[white_vtr]

boost is mint :D

this RR day gives two graphs, one with wheel figure and AFR's, and one with fly figure and torque

yeah i got a reading for the flywheel bhp and at the wheels bhp reading, and i know boost is the way forward, i hate vauxhall but really want a corsa c with a z20let init :/

[AndySAXO]

Do you get torque figures.

[blackie_2k5]

Do you get torque figures.

???? are you talking about the op?

as he didnt get torwue figures, he asked^^^ few posts up

the RR day i have organised give torque figures

[AndySAXO]

Hmm intresting.... So no torque figures from chipwizard.

[white_vtr]

nah no torque figures, he said he can do it if you have a coil pack with ht leads or something.

[blackie_2k5]

nah no torque figures, he said he can do it if you have a coil pack with ht leads or something.

??? never heard that one before, the rollers should calculate it

[leeroybrown]

Some one mention me?

[blackie_2k5]

yes lee!!

what you doing for RR meet? you meeting at evotune or coming to angel to meet up and drive down?

[Ross]

What the fuck?? How can you not get torque figures?? HP is calculated FROM torque?

[AndySAXO]

That why I am say Ross.... Chipwizard never seem to give torque figure :s

[Ross]

That why I am say Ross.... Chipwizard never seem to give torque figure :s

Thats really weird. I wonder if that's intentional, or just something Wayne is "missing" out. Do you get everything else? AFR, boost,airtemp etc on request?

[blackie_2k5]

makes you wonder why tbh

[Ross]

makes you wonder why tbh

Well (and not that I'm implying that this is actually happening) it would be a lot easier to "adjust" the HP graph if you don't have the torque line there too - you can just basically make it up with nothing to compare it to.

From what I heard though, Wayne's dyno was pretty accurate? I'm sincerely weirded out. I wonder why?

[blackie_2k5]

i know mate, thats what i mean... Dyno dynamics day next week should help shed some light on the subject

Anyone know why wayne dropped prices and doesnt have a massive waiting list anymore?

[white_vtr]

yeah well see what power it makes at evotune eh :) and i had to wait a month for my map like nd cost 400, he doesnt charge vat anymore, how much did it used to be?

[leeroybrown]

I am just making my way there pal quicker and easier for me.

I think I might have passed this silver vts last night.

[blackie_2k5]

bout 500 with vat on...so if not doing vat that must be why

You taking anyone lee? Not sure my lass is going now

[Ross]

bout 500 with vat on...so if not doing vat that must be why

The plot thickens. So he's doing less than 15 mapping sessions per month. Has business dropped that much for him?

[white_vtr]

he stopped doing vat a while back athink. something about him paying off all his mapping equipment then stopped because it wasnt worth it

[Ross]

Well my calculation of 15 a month presumes he doesnt do any other work other than mapping. If he does other work too, he's doing less than 15 a month. @ £400 per session, thats all that's needed to hit the compulsory vat threshold.

Business must be quiet. :(

[white_vtr]

by the looks of the garage, hes doing very well lol two maps in a day he done on monday. must be his pocket money doing remaps lol

[Ross]

by the looks of the garage, hes doing very well lol two maps in a day he done on monday. must be his pocket money doing remaps lol

Hope HMRC don't catch up with him then!

[blackie_2k5]

haha.. yeah i was thinking back pocket job tbh...must be making a mint ath thjose prices, no wonder hes paid off all his mapping equiptment!

[white_vtr]

ana wish i was clever enough to turn on a pc nevermind map peoples cars haha. guess il just stick to fixing road sweepers :(

[blackie_2k5]

ana wish i was clever enough to turn on a pc nevermind map peoples cars haha. guess il just stick to fixing road sweepers :(

that cant be that badly paying mate^^

yeah i really wish i could map, big business, and once youve got all the gear your set really!

[white_vtr]

its ok pay like, fully qyalified just gotta be 21 to go on full pay :/ and after not much thought and not much money at the minute iv decided im gonna go boost haha. thinking about forged internals and aiming for the 300bh mark :)