Vtr/vts conversion

[jamieb809]

I'm considering converting my 1.1, and sorry if this topic has already been covered.
My Saxo is a mk1, if I bought a mk2 engine would I be able to run it using a vtr ecu from a mk1?

I just don't want to replace the whole loom,
Thanks

[defqon1]

Nope! ... If u have a mk2 engine u need a mk2 ecu .. (3 plug) .. mk1 ecu are single plug ... u need to get a vtr vts engine out of the same year as ur's! .. Looms differ from year to year ... I.e .. Single plug .. 3 plug .. other end of loom .. 1 Screw on connecter an a green an yellow push on or two screws on's ... Then u need twin fan set up for vts engine an all other bits ... Plus if u go from a 1.1 to a vtr/vts u would need disc's axle at the bk to stop it cuz drums ent gud enuff! ...

[mr-sean]

i have a 01 ph 2 1.4 saxo 1 screw connector. and i bought a 98 106 gti 16v engine what set up will be easiest to run that

[George1234]

not even worth doing if im honest mate, was going to do a conversion on my vtr and figured it wasnt worth it. let alone a 1.1.. im thinking you have drum breaks too lol??? pointless! the amount of work needed to make it stop and corner as well as it goes will cost £££ would be a cool sleeper car in therory, just keep it as a theory though... and insurance? if you get pulled or crash with a 16v lump under there you will get arse raped!! guessing your 17 if you just have a 1.1 take my advice and just get a vtr and if the insurance isnt too bad so vts that's what im mid way through doing :)

[Oli_K]

yes, you can splice the looms

[saxo_gray]

do what im planning. im going to cam a 1.4 westie. with a supersprint system and a few other bits and bobs, should be pushing out a little more than the VTR, and sound a lot better.

Look around the for sale threads, can pick up a VTR/S axle for like £100

[mangojace]

why would you want to do that and waste money on a 1.4, apart from insurance costs! Vts engine ftw!

[wicked-vtr]

You dont need a disc beam front brakes do all the stopping anyway.

You'll need a vts enging, loom and ecu and youll have to weld a vt top engine mount in too iirc

[kennym1987]

it can be done on standard mounts

[saxo_gray]

why would you want to do that and waste money on a 1.4, apart from insurance costs! Vts engine ftw!

exactly that, i've already got the quotes and is cheaper to cam my 1.4 then even put a VTR lump in, plus I want something a little different which will go just as well as a VTR, but sound much better and more fun

When I get a VTS I want it standard, I dont want the "S" lump in a westie car for example. :)

[Gandi699]

do what im planning. im going to cam a 1.4 westie. with a supersprint system and a few other bits and bobs, should be pushing out a little more than the VTR, and sound a lot better.

Look around the for sale threads, can pick up a VTR/S axle for like £100

I dont get this how would a cammed 1.4 8v be pushing out more than a vtr would? I'm not too up on the 1.4 8v but I'd think its got small valves and would be restricted in the head

[saxo_gray]

its only 15bhp less than the VTR. cams, decent induction kit, full supersprint with de-cat and a remap? got to be more than 15bhp increase, plus the 1.4 box is shorter so a bit more acceleration gain more than top end.

a remap alone can give up to 10bhp, plus as stated, its something different and all that is still cheaper on insurance

[Gandi699]

I'm not sure it'd make 20 bhp from just a cam but it depends whats fitted and how its mapped. One thing to consider is a 1.4 XSi engine as thats good for 103bhp standard but you'll probably require loom changes to run its ECU or a remap at the very least. Either is going to be costly!