One for the Track-dayers, looking for a cheap track car, Now found one :)

[TypeRDavid]

As title says really.

My friend and i were discussing this last night , and we have decided to go in search of a cheap track only car, something that is cheap(ish), lightweight, easy to work with and so on.

Had a few suggestions off others such as Astra (Redtops), Corsa B, vts, 205 etc etc..

Narrowed it down to 3 possibles.

VTS

Corsa B

Metro

Now the one that is appealing to me is the Metty purely because of the cheapness of it lol.

So any thoughts off anyone with experience would be great, looking to do some Track day's next year, so want to get some practice in before i take the GTR out on track lol.

Also if anyone knows of any decent tracks for a Beginner then please feel free to suggest some.

Ta.

[wolf_gsxr]

Pic the vts mate it's miles quicker and handles well without really doing much. Not much point going round a track in a 2hp metro. You wouldn't enjoy it. The corsa's r quick if they gota red top in but I wudnt show it a corner with all that weight at the front.

[RossRog]

vts/gti are slow on track with out spending bigggg money.

metro is a metro don't know alot about them,

corsa b are ok like said above if you have a xe or let. you would need coilovers to sort any handling issues.

[Mr_X]

Westfield.

End thread.

[Mochachino]

Id pick the VTS because I know them inside out so if I had any problems with it id be able to sort it out easy enough and cheaply too.

Parts and mods are cheap and easily available.

[Proffitt]

Out of the 3, I would have the VTS.

What about a stripped out E36?

[Coonper]

Astra Redtop would be my choice.

Pick up a mint 1.4 merit for about £300, get a redtop for about £200.

Get some big block hubs and shafts (astra TD, GSI, sport, cavvy, calibra etc) and bolt it all in. 6 wires that are colour to colour and you're away.

Dead simple, reliable engines, in a great handling, stiff shell.

Then stick the redtop on webers, get some reground cams from autosprint, SBD manifold and you're saying hello to 200bhp.

Handling wise, Bilstein shocks (£200 a set), apex springs, saab 93 ARB, 288mm calipers off a calibra/cavvy turbo with 4 stud Meriva discs.

Here's one i made eariler...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/Coonper/DSC00099-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/Coonper/DSC00130.jpg

[RossRog]

do well to find an xe for 200 quid now.

[Mr_X]

Track days are quite safe, take your gtr.

Or buy a Caterham

[Coonper]

do well to find an xe for 200 quid now.

I've got a complete dizzy lump with loom that i'm after £200 for. :homme:

[swampy]

Wont be easy to find a metro thats not full of rust?
They can be made to stop and go well as nearly all the tuning parts from an old skool mini will fit if you get a pre k series car.
If its a k series then the mg f engine fits in!

[Coonper]

An MR2 would also be a good shout for a cheap track car. 178bhp, mid engine, RWD, cheap to buy, easy to work on etc.

Put some sticky tyres on it and for £500 you've got a force to be wreckoned with!

This'll give you the RWD appreciation that you might need, before hitting the track in the liner?

[MiniGibbo]

E36 328 everytime dude, parts are pennys and they have a great chassis..

[D--R--E--W]

Do you ever shut up about bimmers ya juiced up junky fuck!!! KO.


I'd consider the 205 but out the 3 a vts.

[JamesR]

AX GT or 106 Rallye could also be worth considering

[MiniGibbo]

Do you ever shut up about bimmers ya juiced up junky fuck!!! KO.


I'd consider the 205 but out the 3 a vts.

Theyres a reason theyre so comman at track days.

[adam_baker]

im selling a 1.6 powered metro with 4 speed box, quicker than clio sports, let me know if your interested...

[Mochachino]

Theyres a reason theyre so comman at track days.

Because you tell everyone to get one? lol :p

[0rang3peel]

mx5?

205?

[RossRog]

I've got a complete dizzy lump with loom that i'm after £200 for. :homme:

i'd put it up for more than that! haah

i'd been keeping a look on the prices of them for a few months an they have gone really thin on the ground. got mine in my garage they are atarting to sell over 400 quid so was tempted to sell up.

[D--R--E--W]

Because you tell everyone to get one? lol :p

Absolutely beat me to punch...

[holdawayt]

Mx5 every time, cheap as chips - easy to get decent power out of, handle like a beast and rear wheel drive.

Doooo it.

Edit- plus you get the satisfaction of overtaking chav mobiles (bmw's) in a car designed for aunt bessie's shopping run.

[K17NEY]

I've got a complete dizzy lump with loom that i'm after £200 for. :homme:

Stick another £400 on that, Its too cheap. I payed £250 for a bare dizzy lump 18 months ago, From a mate.

[Ryan]

Theyres a reason theyre so comman at track days.

I've rarely seen one (driven well either)....

Even at the ring, alot of the locals have things lke mega spec fucked up looking polos, or just a load of gt3rs's.

[titchster]

I don't see that many E36s at trackdays either...


From that selection, i'd say Saxo, it's faster than the other two (without dropping a VVT lump in the Metro, or a C20 in the Corsa), and it handles better.

[Ryan]

A rank outside which can be picked up for dirt cheap is an old rover 200 brm.

They're actually not too bad and you can get parts for them quite cheap.

[mangojace]

Theyres a reason theyre so comman at track days.

because every chav like you wants one thinking its a m3 :homme:

[Pomaz]

Vts, wouldn't have a corsa b with a redtop in it, don't care what people say about coilys sticking a big heavy engine in the front of a light little car is obviously going to make the handling questionable... plus a cammed and stripped vts will still give one difficulty's.

[MiniGibbo]

I've rarely seen one (driven well either)....

Even at the ring, alot of the locals have things lke mega spec fucked up looking polos, or just a load of gt3rs's.

I havent been since '09 but when i was theyre every other car was a e30 or e36 i was well surprised, luck of the draw i suppose...


because every chav like you wants one thinking its a m3 :homme:

Majority on e36coupe actully regaurd the 328 as a better "trackday" car as with a total build cost of 3k incudling buying the car and the fact the parts dont carry M tax make them a lot cheaper meaning more track time.

And a properly fettled 328 will pass a oem e36 m3 and chase a oem e46 m3.

[wolf_gsxr]

As much as he's a tool dare I say it I agree with gibbo. They handle very well and there nippy enough. And as said it's rwd so it will be less of a jump to the skyline. (awaits abuse for taking gibbo's side)

[TypeRDavid]

http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/adistinction/TeamTro.jpg

Bargain, Metro GTI, same owner from new, every receipt, brochures, original bill of sale, everything!!

£500, got a few things to sort on it, the inevitable rust etc, but has a cracking engine, and loads of spare parts to go with it.

Getting her on Thursday morning, paid the deposit tonight and cant wait to pick her up and drive her home :)

[MiniGibbo]

http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/adistinction/TeamTro.jpg

Bargain, Metro GTI, same owner from new, every receipt, brochures, original bill of sale, everything!!

£500, got a few things to sort on it, the inevitable rust etc, but has a cracking engine, and loads of spare parts to go with it.

Getting her on Thursday morning, paid the deposit tonight and cant wait to pick her up and drive her home :)

Picture fail sort it out you cunt!

I love gti's wanted one for my first car!!

[MiniGibbo]

Yesh mate

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk96/xmattgibsonx/metrogti_header.jpg

[swampy]

Look a avonbar they do alot of k series tuning parts.
Also get rid of the plastic tb if it hasnt being changdalready, they have being known to melt / deform in use and jam open.
A few companies do a larger straight swap metal item.
Uprating the suspension isnt that easy, it runs hydrolastic spheres with fluid in them, alot of people just alter the fluid pressure but this isnt correct.
To do it properly you need to drain the system and machine down the inner rods and can alter the number of washers.
To stiffen the rear up you used to get clamps to fit two anti roll bars togeather.
Had a white mg with the turbo body blended in, smoothd phs 2 bumpers,relocated arial and black turbo interior for a 1st car.
Engine was blue printd and based on a late fuel injectd cooper s engine convertd back to carbs, janspeed 4 2 1 manifold etc awsome car

[Gandi699]

500 quid is cheap for a GTi SE these days - they only made a couple of runs of them in 1991/2. I've owned two and paid more than you did 5 years ago and the cars have gone up in value since then!
Cheapest track toy out there I reckon. The gti's are pretty fun as standard, put in a PG1 gearbox with LSD and the 1.8 vvc (160 or 143 from an MGF/ZR) and you'll have a very competant track car.
Lowering is nearly free, you can uprate the hydragas with individualisation valves to run a higher pressure.

Get yourself over to metropower.org.uk if you havent already buddy, they look pretty nice when done properly. This is the one I built a few years ago:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/JimVVC/cars/comp2.jpg

[e8_pqck]

I havent been since '09 but when i was theyre every other car was a e30 or e36 i was well surprised, luck of the draw i suppose...




Majority on e36coupe actully regaurd the 328 as a better "trackday" car as with a total build cost of 3k incudling buying the car and the fact the parts dont carry M tax make them a lot cheaper meaning more track time.

And a properly fettled 328 will pass a oem e36 m3 and chase a oem e46 m3.

FUCKING LOL!!!!

My AX was way quicker than an e36 328 that i saw on track, and not with me driving it - BY THE OWNER OF THE e36!!

i beat a westy with zetec in it, and im a terrile driver.

get an AX!

[Ryan]

LOL bargain £500 then.

They may be fucking ugly but the old metro can be made into a weapon.

[Gandi699]

LOL bargain £500 then.

They may be fucking ugly but the old metro can be made into a weapon.

The front isnt the nicest granted, but from the rear they dont look too bad imo

http://www.aronline.co.uk/images/cotm200606_03.jpg

[Mochachino]

They just remind me of old grannys in a disabled parking space with a tartan shopping trolly thing and hair net.

[0rang3peel]

think they're very cool cars!

what engine does everyone use when they turbo them?

do they use the original or... ?

[Gandi699]

They just remind me of old grannys in a disabled parking space with a tartan shopping trolly thing and hair net.

Thats the point though, no one really expects them to be quick!

[Gandi699]

think they're very cool cars!

what engine does everyone use when they turbo them?

do they use the original or... ?

You can use the 1.8 K-series turbo from a rover 75, came with stronger pistons, rods etc. However youll need an aftermarket ECU but thats par for the course. Theres a guy on metropower whos currently running a turbo'd 1.4 thats had forged pistons, rods and steel crank and I think its making over 300 bhp iirc

[mangojace]

FUCKING LOL!!!!

My AX was way quicker than an e36 328 that i saw on track, and not with me driving it - BY THE OWNER OF THE e36!!

i beat a westy with zetec in it, and im a terrile driver.

get an AX!

ax's are light and nimble. Where as the bmw is fairly heavy. Depends what track. But gibbo bores me about his 323,325's and 328s day in day out :homme:

[Ryan]

The front isnt the nicest granted, but from the rear they dont look too bad imo

http://www.aronline.co.uk/images/cotm200606_03.jpg

Er ill still pass on the looks dept tbh...

[Gandi699]

Er ill still pass on the looks dept tbh...

Fair play, just dont think they look as bad as everyone makes out really. Atleast in GTI spec

[e8_pqck]

ax's are light and nimble. Where as the bmw is fairly heavy. Depends what track. But gibbo bores me about his 323,325's and 328s day in day out :homme:

RAF Cottesmore. 3.4 mile with big straights, very flat and big open corners with lots of room and lots of grip, nice warm day. BMW territory if ever there was.

BMW? shit 'em, and his mates Z4 - easily.

[e8_pqck]

bank on topic - how do they handle? and what do the weigh in at?

[MiniGibbo]

FUCKING LOL!!!!

My AX was way quicker than an e36 328 that i saw on track, and not with me driving it - BY THE OWNER OF THE e36!!

i beat a westy with zetec in it, and im a terrile driver.

get an AX!

So bins from what I've read of the spec of your car you seem to keep telling me is you have a turbo, slicks and 800kg...

No gold star I'm affraid for beating a 328 with at least 1100kg and road Tyres.

You seem to think every car you pass on track you destroy as well, well how would you work out me passing an ariel atom does that make me the don?? No it dosent because everyone was passing him including the bottom feeders like mx5's :homme:

It's like you've got something to prove to me, if you keep training and practising on track maybe just maybe you may be as cool as me.. Actully I cant lead you on you'll still look like a nerd.

[Gabbastard]

Depending on the track, a Saxo will be a good choice. On more twisty tracks rather than ones with balls out straights, the light weight will make it so chuckable itll keep most of it speed through the corners. Mate of mine took his AX to an RS owners day and hardly anything kept up with him because it held its speed the whole way round.

Given the price youd pay for a VTS nowadays, the reliability of them if treated sensibly, and the cheapness or parts, they shouldnt be overlooked just because theyre "chavvy".

Saxp post talking up a Saxo? Now theres a surprise.

[mangojace]

So bins from what I've read of the spec of your car you seem to keep telling me is you have a turbo, slicks and 800kg...

No gold star I'm affraid for beating a 328 with at least 1100kg and road Tyres.

You seem to think every car you pass on track you destroy as well, well how would you work out me passing an ariel atom does that make me the don?? No it dosent because everyone was passing him including the bottom feeders like mx5's :homme:

It's like you've got something to prove to me, if you keep training and practising on track maybe just maybe you may be as cool as me.. Actully I cant lead you on you'll still look like a nerd.

As much as i dont like all your post about bmw's . Your talking sense tbh!:y: Anyone can pass anyone on a track. Doesnt mean there thrashing it !

[Nik_L]

Do these Metro's have the Hydragas suspension??Anyway of removing it in favour of a spring/shock combo??

[e8_pqck]

As much as i dont like all your post about bmw's . Your talking sense tbh!:y: Anyone can pass anyone on a track. Doesnt mean there thrashing it !

eh?

thing about track is that you get to speak with the other drivers, and if they say "i couldnt keep up" well i guess they couldn't.

Gibbo, i have made three responses to your bullshit e36 rants about how good bimmers are around a track. as soon as someone points out to you that they aren't all that, with not opinion, but a fact from the views of the bmw owner, you go all defensive. fuck off with your e36 bullshit and find a bimmer crowd to measure cocks with. e36's are outdated, cheap and slow, pretty much sums your crap up.

[e8_pqck]

So bins from what I've read of the spec of your car you seem to keep telling me is you have a turbo, slicks and 800kg...

No gold star I'm affraid for beating a 328 with at least 1100kg and road Tyres.

You seem to think every car you pass on track you destroy as well, well how would you work out me passing an ariel atom does that make me the don?? No it dosent because everyone was passing him including the bottom feeders like mx5's :homme:

It's like you've got something to prove to me, if you keep training and practising on track maybe just maybe you may be as cool as me.. Actully I cant lead you on you'll still look like a nerd.

the thing that pissed him off the most was the price. i paid £2k for the whole car, he paid nearly that for his wheels and tyres.

[mangojace]

eh?

thing about track is that you get to speak with the other drivers, and if they say "i couldnt keep up" well i guess they couldn't.

Gibbo, i have made three responses to your bullshit e36 rants about how good bimmers are around a track. as soon as someone points out to you that they aren't all that, with not opinion, but a fact from the views of the bmw owner, you go all defensive. fuck off with your e36 bullshit and find a bimmer crowd to measure cocks with. e36's are outdated, cheap and slow, pretty much sums your crap up.

:y: +!. He does bore me with his e36 shit

[MiniGibbo]

Bins you seem to think my life revloves around bmw's you do realise i own other cars? and have owned other cars in the past?

back to owning westfeilds now with your mini f1 car :homme:

[e8_pqck]

Bins you seem to think my life revloves around bmw's you do realise i own other cars? and have owned other cars in the past?

back to owning westfeilds now with your mini f1 car :homme:

Minigiblets – well done,you have reached the pinnacle of your car ownership with a 15 year old clapped out e36 daily. It must make you feel like the big man, bragging about it to a bunch of saxo drivers. You make post after post repeating the same frequent drivvle about things you have learnt on bimmerbummers.com. In five years time you might be able to afford a slightly less old, but just as outdated performance car and will no doubt move on to posting about how great it is on some e36 forum. Bore off. :homme:

[jw1325]

Depending on the track, a Saxo will be a good choice. On more twisty tracks rather than ones with balls out straights, the light weight will make it so chuckable itll keep most of it speed through the corners. Mate of mine took his AX to an RS owners day and hardly anything kept up with him because it held its speed the whole way round.



That knockhill by any chance?

Saxo's / 106's / 205's etc do very well at KH if they are set up properly!

[Gabbastard]

That knockhill by any chance?

Saxo's / 106's / 205's etc do very well at KH if they are set up properly!

Yeah KH and Kames. Although admittedly thats pretty much a gokart track lol

[lee_saxo]

eh?

thing about track is that you get to speak with the other drivers, and if they say "i couldnt keep up" well i guess they couldn't.

Gibbo, i have made three responses to your bullshit e36 rants about how good bimmers are around a track. as soon as someone points out to you that they aren't all that, with not opinion, but a fact from the views of the bmw owner, you go all defensive. fuck off with your e36 bullshit and find a bimmer crowd to measure cocks with. e36's are outdated, cheap and slow, pretty much sums your crap up.

e36 m3 evo, cough slow.

Think you are now talking shit

[jw1325]

Yeah KH and Kames. Although admittedly thats pretty much a gokart track lol

admittedly, the guys at SOS build some impressive little french track cars that hold their own very well on their home track.

[Gabbastard]

Who are SOS, dont think Ive heard of them.

[jw1325]

Sounds of Silence, Falkirk based

[KamRacing]

E36 BMW's make very good trackday cars given the right suspension. I'd say a good kit transforms the car and makes it far more capable on corners. I certainly loved my old one.

Back on topic. Was the Rover Metro rated 0 in crash tests? I'd be ordering a cage even if you are driving grandma to the hospital in it...

[MiniGibbo]

Minigiblets – well done,you have reached the pinnacle of your car ownership with a 15 year old clapped out e36 daily. It must make you feel like the big man, bragging about it to a bunch of saxo drivers. You make post after post repeating the same frequent drivvle about things you have learnt on bimmerbummers.com. In five years time you might be able to afford a slightly less old, but just as outdated performance car and will no doubt move on to posting about how great it is on some e36 forum. Bore off. :homme:

Sorry Bins wrong again.

[MiniGibbo]

E36 BMW's make very good trackday cars given the right suspension. I'd say a good kit transforms the car and makes it far more capable on corners. I certainly loved my old one.

Back on topic. Was the Rover Metro rated 0 in crash tests? I'd be ordering a cage even if you are driving grandma to the hospital in it...

Dont think you can talk about the metro's safety Kam when youve driven 205's let alone in anger when i first opened a 205 door i actully laughed :P

[lee_saxo]

RAF Cottesmore. 3.4 mile with big straights, very flat and big open corners with lots of room and lots of grip, nice warm day. BMW territory if ever there was.

BMW? shit 'em, and his mates Z4 - easily.

RAF Cottesmore is just up the road from my rents, can you just turn up and have a blast ?

[MiniGibbo]

RAF Cottesmore is just up the road from my rents, can you just turn up and have a blast ?

No Lee dont hell and im not kidding "shit you"..

[lee_saxo]

I know but I'm sick of this pub talk, I'd be up for a meet to get well and truly shit on

[Nik_L]

N/A Saxo's/106's/205's etc are utter balls around Knockhill.

The back straight fucks them up, and if it dosn't, then the uphill pit straight destroys them.

I always have and always will say that you need some decent torque for Knockhill to put in some quick times.If not then the ground you make up on the corners, is soon lost on the straights.

Not saying you can't have fun etc, but very rarely do you see an N/A car stand out from the pack.

Saying that, last time i was up, there was a P1 172 putting in some quick times.Was pulling lenghts on EK9's etc.

[MiniGibbo]

N/A Saxo's/106's/205's etc are utter balls around Knockhill.

The back straight fucks them up, and if it dosn't, then the uphill pit straight destroys them.

I always have and always will say that you need some decent torque for Knockhill to put in some quick times.If not then the ground you make up on the corners, is soon lost on the straights.

Not saying you can't have fun etc, but very rarely do you see an N/A car stand out from the pack.

Saying that, last time i was up, there was a P1 172 putting in some quick times.Was pulling lenghts on EK9's etc.

It was standard then :homme:

[Nik_L]

Not sure on spec, but it was stripped out/caged with sticky tyres etc.

Quite a few E36 M3's make a regular appearance, but they don't seem to be quick around Knockhill. Too tight a track i reckon. The Scooby's/Evo's etc pull there pants down.

[Gabbastard]

It was standard then :homme:

LOL I was thinking that.

[mangojace]

Minigiblets – well done,you have reached the pinnacle of your car ownership with a 15 year old clapped out e36 daily. It must make you feel like the big man, bragging about it to a bunch of saxo drivers. You make post after post repeating the same frequent drivvle about things you have learnt on bimmerbummers.com. In five years time you might be able to afford a slightly less old, but just as outdated performance car and will no doubt move on to posting about how great it is on some e36 forum. Bore off. :homme:

I gotta agree with this, he goes on and on about his car alot. And then we find out the bhp of it....slowwwwwwwwwwwwww

e36 m3 evo, cough slow.

Think you are now talking shit

Not really.The cars which attend trackdays i go too are far more performance than a e36 m3!

[MiniGibbo]

And what trackdays are these?

Are they invitation only for the very gifted?

[mangojace]

N/A Saxo's/106's/205's etc are utter balls around Knockhill.

The back straight fucks them up, and if it dosn't, then the uphill pit straight destroys them.

I always have and always will say that you need some decent torque for Knockhill to put in some quick times.If not then the ground you make up on the corners, is soon lost on the straights.

Not saying you can't have fun etc, but very rarely do you see an N/A car stand out from the pack.

Saying that, last time i was up, there was a P1 172 putting in some quick times.Was pulling lenghts on EK9's etc.

Must of been a shit driver in the ek9 then LOL

Unless it was modified alot..........

[lee_saxo]

I gotta agree with this, he goes on and on about his car alot. And then we find out the bhp of it....slowwwwwwwwwwwwww



Not really.The cars which attend trackdays i go too are far more performance than a e36 m3!

yeah stripped out and boosted up, I'm talking about a standard e36 m3

[e8_pqck]

even an e46 is a handful around track, such a shame to strip a nice car - they are more at home on the motorway.

Same goes for an evo e36, not the wisest choice, hence the majority will be the likes of 328, cheap to buy and well built though a little lardy but still under powered and expensive to mod.

Giblets - the trackday god :homme:

[Nik_L]

Must of been a shit driver in the ek9 then LOL

Unless it was modified alot..........

Have you ever been around Knockhill??

[MiniGibbo]

even an e46 is a handful around track, such a shame to strip a nice car - they are more at home on the motorway.

Same goes for an evo e36, not the wisest choice, hence the majority will be the likes of 328, cheap to buy and well built though a little lardy but still under powered and expensive to mod.

Giblets - the trackday god :homme:

Have you owned many BMW's and driven them both on road and on track to be able to give such a descriptive review of them bins?

And third fail when have I mentioned my driving, you'd think you'd of noticed that with those specs..

[lee_saxo]

everyone's a critic on cars these days they have never owned or driven didn't you know

[e8_pqck]

giblets, i know enough peope who have owned one, though they have all moved on - was a few years ago, when they were actually decent cars.

LOL at you looking at my pics on photobucket!! will even send you some for your mrs..

[MiniGibbo]

This is what I'm getting at with you acting like you've got something to prove to me being so egotistical to think I'll take time out of my day to not only look for pictures of yourself but also your photobucket?

I have neither you fail.

And my mates, mates, mate said dosent count as an opinion on a car so less of flapping your lips..

[D--R--E--W]

You two going to give it a fucking rest.

[e8_pqck]

This is what I'm getting at with you acting like you've got something to prove to me being so egotistical to think I'll take time out of my day to not only look for pictures of yourself but also your photobucket?

I have neither you fail.

And my mates, mates, mate said dosent count as an opinion on a car so less of flapping your lips..

nor the e36 owner i was out on track with... ok then giblets. :homme:

[MiniGibbo]

Your just bitter an twisted you only have the second best yellow s3 on the forum Drew :homme:

[0rang3peel]

How a car can get round a track with you two fucking fatties in anyway I have no idea so chillax everyone probably thinks your both slow

[e8_pqck]

You two going to give it a fucking rest.

he started it.

[D--R--E--W]

Yeah, that's what it is :S Just bored of you two twats haha

[MiniGibbo]

nor the e36 owner i was out on track with... ok then giblets. :homme:

So you met a single example, I drove past a ax in a scrap yard so on that asumtion your cars fucking shit and slower than a 318is..

Unlucky bins.

[D--R--E--W]

So you met a single example, I drove past a ax in a scrap yard so on that asumtion your cars fucking shit and slower than a 318is..

Unlucky bins.

Wouldn't waste my petrol racing either the two of you....:clapping:

[MiniGibbo]

Drew stop spamming on keep it on topic..

[D--R--E--W]

Drew stop spamming on keep it on topic..

Fairplay haha

[e8_pqck]

to be fair giblets, the e36 are common as muck - the reps choice of the 90's. Who hasn't either owned one, been in one or know someone who has one... yawn...

[MiniGibbo]

to be fair giblets, the e36 are common as muck - the reps choice of the 90's. Who hasn't either owned one, been in one or know someone who has one... yawn...

Well apparently you bins, maybe you spent too much time with your head in the ax's engine bay whacking off over your tea cup of a turbo.

[KamRacing]

Dont think you can talk about the metro's safety Kam when youve driven 205's let alone in anger when i first opened a 205 door i actully laughed :P

Got the scars to prove you can walk away from a big accident in a 205. Even then they are not that great. You wont get me in a rover metro though thats driven at high speed. I've seen the results when it goes wrong. Used to be a time when half the local young driver deaths were in these cars.

[0rang3peel]

well apparently you bins, maybe you spent too much time with your head in the ax's engine bay whacking off over your tea cup of a turbo.

oh no he didn't he called your turbo a tea cup

come at him bro

[e8_pqck]

i've already said im no great driver - will have the AX out next spring, giblets you are more than welcome to have a drive in it. drop a flag or something. :drink:

[lee_saxo]

oh no he didn't he called your turbo a tea cup

come at him bro

lmao !

[D--R--E--W]

lmao !

Yeah I lold aswell ha

[Coonper]

I had an E36 325 M50 and it was garbage.

Nippy in a straight line, but did nothing else apart from sound nice.

[djmartin]

David you have an R32, I pressume youve put it on a diet for a reason rite? << thats a hint to say fkin use your R32 on a track and enjoy it lol.

[Mieran]

Metro?! Fail!

From them 3 cars I would have picked Corsa B and put a x18xe1 engine in

[TypeRDavid]

Metro?! Fail!

From them 3 cars I would have picked Corsa B and put a x18xe1 engine in

Ah well each to their own.

[titchster]

Well, this thread quickly got full of egos...

[Prickle]

saxo vts. cammed, stripped, cage, bremboh's, btb, b8's, pro 1.2s, etc etc.