turbo bays

[Pug106-GTI]

can you get some pics up of your turbo bays please people wanna look at some for ideas pretty much

also be nice to see some of them tidy bays :y:

[tweeqd]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/leaving032.jpg


and the old 200bhp setup
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/05-06-01_17-54.jpg

[Pug106-GTI]

nice mate, does it not matter if the oil filter is mounted upright or sideways with the relocation kit?

[blackie_2k5]

nice mate, does it not matter if the oil filter is mounted upright or sideways with the relocation kit?

filter is a filter mate... long as its got pressure pumping oil through it you can mount it up your arse tbh..

[blackie_2k5]

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/blackie_2k5/02062011398.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/blackie_2k5/02062011399.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss328/blackie_2k5/02062011397.jpg

[NismoSteve]

Very nice bays there, excellent jobs.

[tweeqd]

another one i built to a budget

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/skinny/skinny019.jpg

[dannygti]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/dannysax/b2680ce0.jpg


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/dannysax/f6bef8ac.jpg

[blackie_2k5]

are you still running dump valve danny?

[dannygti]

Yes mate why? It uses a v-band fitting that's welded on the boost pipe..

[blackie_2k5]

i just seen it sitting there and thought i recalled you saying you werent going to use one anymore, may have been someone else :y:

[wicked-vtr]

What inlet is that Danny? Not seen one like that before

[dannygti]

You can't really take it off mate. What it was, the spring inside it is pretty stiff so when I was running lower boost it didn't really work the dump valve but now I'm running more boost it goes off. Sounds bloody lovely too :)

[NismoSteve]

another one i built to a budget

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/skinny/skinny019.jpg

What kind of budget are we looking at for this set up mate?

[dannygti]

What inlet is that Danny? Not seen one like that before

It's a C2 inlet, using a at power throttle body.

[Ryan]

What inlet is that Danny? Not seen one like that before

JP4...

[wicked-vtr]

Oh right, its well ugly lol, looks like a lot of space to fill up too :S I had always thought they would look proper flashy lol

[tweeqd]

What kind of budget are we looking at for this set up mate?

not sure on a price, its the kit i built up in 2003 for my car that i sold to the guy who owns the ax, then he payed for me to fit it
i recon if you hunt ebay for the RIGHT parts (there is alot of shit on there) it could prob be done for a few £k's

[blackie_2k5]

You can't really take it off mate. What it was, the spring inside it is pretty stiff so when I was running lower boost it didn't really work the dump valve but now I'm running more boost it goes off. Sounds bloody lovely too :)

i need a stiffer spring tbh, mine goes off far before im near spooled so im sure itll be leaking on full boost... was going to remove it but it sounds tooo good :D

not sure on a price, its the kit i built up in 2003 for my car that i sold to the guy who owns the ax, then he payed for me to fit it
i recon if you hunt ebay for the RIGHT parts (there is alot of shit on there) it could prob be done for a few £k's

is that using an r5/rs turbo i/c?

[tweeqd]

i need a stiffer spring tbh, mine goes off far before im near spooled so im sure itll be leaking on full boost... was going to remove it but it sounds tooo good :D



is that using an r5/rs turbo i/c?

Pace Rs turbo intercooler and a honda civic rad with an astra g fan, volvo header tank and volvo/vw boost pipes lol plus a saab turbo inlet side and R5 hot side

if you want a load dump valve, ive got the twin port version of this, and its adjustable to be mild or VERY loud lol
http://www.gfb.com.au/products?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-sku.tpl&product_id=117&category_id=21

[Tom5190]

Two we built

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/TJW5190/Karnik.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/TJW5190/Aiden.jpg

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341511

[blackie_2k5]

thought it looked like one but also could of been a 5 i/c... im just gonna get an uprated spring for mine mate, or remove it altogether :y:

[dannygti]

What manifold is that? Bet the downpipe is freaking close to the alternator? As mine is very close yet my turbo looks a little further to the right (looking at it)

[Tom5190]

There both our own manifolds iirc matey

[dannygti]

There both our own manifolds iirc matey

How much do you charge for them?

Anymore info on these two motors? Power,torque,boost,turbo etc

[blackie_2k5]

dp i recognise the bay of the green one from fcs this year?

[Tom5190]

How much do you charge for them?

Anymore info on these two motors? Power,torque,boost,turbo etc

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341511 < Aiden's green one. iirc its around the 260-280bhp mark.

Ive just had this one in for some work actually.

Karnik has a build thread somewere on 106 moaners or something not sure on full spec list on that but its rather sexual to be honest.

Pug1off 106 Turbo 340BHP Dyno Run - YouTube 340bhp run.

As for price's i have no idea sorry i dont have anything to do with that.

Speak to Matt or Mark - 01280 701919

or it maybe on the online shop http://www.shop.pug1off.com/

dp i recognise the bay of the green one from fcs this year?

Yea both of these were at FCS. 106 has had a dogbox since and a jump in power.

[blackie_2k5]

i think i remember them both, iirc there was a few of your cars all parked together...but the green one stood out as i had an amazon i really miss..i was mid way turboing that when it just got too much and i chopped it up :/

[Tom5190]

i think i remember them both, iirc there was a few of your cars all parked together...but the green one stood out as i had an amazon i really miss..i was mid way turboing that when it just got too much and i chopped it up :/

Yea we had about 10 cars on stand at fcs this year, my favourite one wasnt there though bens 106 but should be there next year :n:

Ive always wanted an amazon mk1 myself wish i could afford one for a daft track toy!

[dannygti]

Some decent cars there.
I'd be interested in this 'dogbox' Aiden was supposed to be fitting.

[Tom5190]

Hes got it on now thats what it was in for, karnik is also running one too.

[dannygti]

More info needed mate. Are these ma dogbox's or BE dogboxs?

[Tom5190]

More info needed mate. Are these ma dogbox's or BE dogboxs?

There MA Dog's that we build in house, i really dont no how much im alowed to say on here before its classed as advertising or promoting, which is why i really need an affiliate account sorting. All i can say is have a browse through the shop or give us a ring.

Edit: Dont no if that sounded right we build them but obviously we dont make the gears our self only construst the box from what part supplier we use.

[Sophia_Bush]

my dirty excuse of a mess

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Sadako_Yamamura/Quiksilver%20Pics/IMG_0232.jpg

danny iirc the manifold is one of them ford ones likes this but with new flanges

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-2008-FIESTA-ST150-2-0-PETROL-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-/360354752281?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53e6d12719#ht_2381wt_994

[dannygti]

Gav, I think it will be a proper stainless steel job mate not a ford manifold modded. I'm sure Tom will clear this up

[Sophia_Bush]

pretty sure it's a ford one I remember someone from pug1off earlier this year or end of last year starting a progress blog of a white gti they was doing and specified it was a ford manifold but didn't actually say which one as I remember texting you about it

[Tom5190]

Not sure on the ford thing its possible that someone might of supplied there own or something but we only tend to use our stuff. The ones on both of them cars above are made from scratch the full system's are.

Erm here this is aiden's in bits you can see its not that mani

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/TJW5190/IMG_1098.jpg

[Sophia_Bush]

looks good tom only reason I mention as said is because someone came on saying they was from your company start of year did a thread and mentioned manifold was a ford one

[Tom5190]

looks good tom only reason I mention as said is because someone came on saying they was from your company start of year did a thread and mentioned manifold was a ford one

Yea it probly was just they will of supplied it them selves most likely if there budget didnt include our exhaust. Ive only been there 8-9 months so i wouldnt of seen it. :n:

[dannygti]

I see what your saying gav, but I can tell right away that's a manifold made from scratch..

It's not on the website, I'd be interested to see how much they charge for it.

[Tom5190]

I see what your saying gav, but I can tell right away that's a manifold made from scratch..

It's not on the website, I'd be interested to see how much they charge for it.

To be honest for what it is i dont think they are that expensive, i have been told the price at some time but i just cant remember it off the top of my head :homme:

[wicked-vtr]

Do the prices on the site include vat mate?

[Tom5190]

As far as im aware yea they do mate. 99% sure. it would be added on a check out if it wasnt and nothing is added on :)

[rorz_vts]

Here's the start of mine
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rorz_vts/mellow%20yellow%20turbo/DSCF1509.jpg

[Ryan]

There MA Dog's that we build in house, i really dont no how much im alowed to say on here before its classed as advertising or promoting, which is why i really need an affiliate account sorting. All i can say is have a browse through the shop or give us a ring.

Edit: Dont no if that sounded right we build them but obviously we dont make the gears our self only construst the box from what part supplier we use.

It's not a thread blatantly posting, buy our shit so don't worry about posting up specs people ask for in technical discussions dude.

[Pug106-GTI]

Here's the start of mine
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rorz_vts/mellow%20yellow%20turbo/DSCF1509.jpg

Is that using a slimline fan mate?

[Pug106-GTI]

anyone?

[rorz_vts]

Yes it is mate got 2 forsale atm if your after one

[Pug106-GTI]

Never realised how much more room they give you at the front mate!

I know some people use 2 x 10" slim's or something is that right? How do they fit?

[e8_pqck]

Mine will be going to Martin's @ Tweeqd to get low comps fitted when im back in UK, at the moment its just running half a bar on a thicker HG, but goes pretty well! I think the turbo and side exit exhaust mounted on the side will help with weight distribution as well.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/colinsaxturbo1.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/12062010200.jpg

[rorz_vts]

Dead easy to fit mate just line up and feed the ties through the rad fans and pull tight
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rorz_vts/ice%20blue%20vtr/DSCF1545.jpg
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rorz_vts/ice%20blue%20vtr/DSCF1546.jpg

[Pug106-GTI]

Ah ok mate... Will get back to you just waiting for my new funds to clear ;) will see what I have left after xmas shop this week lol :y:

[Mieran]

another one i built to a budget

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/skinny/skinny019.jpg

Is that a Citroen ECU?

[leighk18]

Here's the start of mine
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rorz_vts/mellow%20yellow%20turbo/DSCF1509.jpg

Alright mate not read your thread on this. But is that a cit tune manifold. If so what size turbo are you using a t25? Is there much clearance from the block. cheers leigh

[Pug106-GTI]

yeah thats the cituning kit, the inlet pipe and manifold they normally have the gt17 turbo with the cituning kits iirc

[Mathias]

Mine will be going to Martin's @ Tweeqd to get low comps fitted when im back in UK, at the moment its just running half a bar on a thicker HG, but goes pretty well! I think the turbo and side exit exhaust mounted on the side will help with weight distribution as well.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/colinsaxturbo1.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/12062010200.jpg

That's a very interesting manifold and setup! Any more pics?

[rorz_vts]

Alright mate not read your thread on this. But is that a cit tune manifold. If so what size turbo are you using a t25? Is there much clearance from the block. cheers leigh
In that pic it had a gt17 on there's good space from the block, can't say the same about the rad tho, have a look on pg 5 or 6 on my thread to find out why lol
yeah thats the cituning kit, the inlet pipe and manifold they normally have the gt17 turbo with the cituning kits iirc
you are correct in every way there :y:

[Pug106-GTI]

WOW didn't realise they can cause that to the radiator! Lol would the DP manifold bring it a little closer to the block rather than the rad?

[stevo1600]

My old bay:y:
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i423/stevo1600/Firstattempt2.jpg


http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i423/stevo1600/Photo0429.jpg

[stevo1600]

I'd also be very very interested in those manifolds along as there not stupid prices.

[tweeqd]

Is that a Citroen ECU?
yes mate ax gti ecu with gti6 injectors and a dastek unichip with boost
module
200bhp@ 14psi on standard pistons but a 1mm decomp plate

[e8_pqck]

There was a mani on ebay at w/e for (i think) £89. Got to be worth a punt. have a look in the completed sales if not there, but it was defo there somewhere, might have been listed as 106.

Sorry, no more pics as in storage over winter!

[e8_pqck]

Here it is, for C2 VTS:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Exhaust-Manifold-Citroen-C2-VTS-1-6L-T25-Flange-Top-Mount-/280775107109?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415f802225

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDAwWDQwMA==/$(KGrHqQOKj!E7FVZCPUiBO)jS7ctBg~~60_12.JPG

[dannygti]

I like that ^^^^

Nice and easy anbit looks like it puts the turbo in the right place. Will work pretty well

[stevo1600]

pity that wont fit a vtr........ BAH stupid 16v engines. piles of shit;);)

looks fairly strong in pic i may grab one when it eventually come vts time.

EDIT: hmm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Exhaust-Manifold-T25-Flange-SUZUKI-Swift-SX4-M13-M15-M16-M18-w-WG-Hole-/280775262298?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415f82805a#ht_2058wt_1185

would like to put that against vtr head.. looks close.

[leighk18]

How diffrent is the spacing from a 8v to a 16v could mate a plate up two fit it

[tweeqd]

about the same, i looked at changing the flange on mine to fit a 16v head but ill just make a new manifold

[leighk18]

Won't be two hard then im still use to boost on saxo but it seems there is no manifold around what people are 100% happy with

[tweeqd]

it depends what people want from the engine, the DP one is ok (primrys are a little big in my opinion) but very expensive, the cituning/miltek one is good but puts the turbo in the wrong place for a BE box

i made my own mainly cos in an AX there is bugger all room so a DP one would never have fiitted and making it myself i knew it was going to to be just as i wanted it

[stevo1600]

I need the skills to create a manifold. Welding bending etc is something I really want to progress at.

How much would it cost you roughly to make a turbo mani tweeqd?

[stevo1600]

Won't be two hard then im still use to boost on saxo but it seems there is no manifold around what people are 100% happy with

True, my mani has warped, and it puts the turbo so close to the box... Struggle to get my actuator to squeeze in....dp one has also been known to warp in the past iirc

[NismoSteve]

My nissans manfold used to crack, had 3 different manifolds on. In the end a friend of mine made a copy from better quality steel and have not had any problems since.

[tweeqd]

not sure on a price bud, the flanges are expensive and they are very time consuming to do

[Ryan]

about the same, i looked at changing the flange on mine to fit a 16v head but ill just make a new manifold

16v eh Martin.

[karenv]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x254/vassallo_2007/DSC00239.jpg

this is mine still in progress

[106TURBO]

mine :)
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx14/chris1cherry87/106%20turbo/DSC00450.jpg

[stevo1600]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x254/vassallo_2007/DSC00239.jpg

this is mine still in progress

You running a diesel rad with this ?What expansion tank you use?

Looks nice btw.

[blackie_2k5]

mine :)
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx14/chris1cherry87/106%20turbo/DSC00450.jpg

liking the recirc... did you have it fitted with atmospheric beforehand? if so much diff in spool etc?

[e8_pqck]

also, what inlet are you using? seems to look different to a metal vts inlet..

[dannygti]

It's a VAG 1.8t inlet

[karenv]

yea my expansion tank is behind the left light i had it custom made

[106TURBO]

always had some kind of recirc on it. Wouldnt go for atmospheric on it.

well seen as danny told you my ingredients he is correct!ha, got another one in the shed, dont know whether to make another for a bigger throttle body or just chop plate for standard body off this one and reweld another plate on for larger throttlebody.

[Tom5190]

I see what your saying gav, but I can tell right away that's a manifold made from scratch..

It's not on the website, I'd be interested to see how much they charge for it.

sorry mate forgot about this there around £990 inc

[dannygti]

always had some kind of recirc on it. Wouldnt go for atmospheric on it.

well seen as danny told you my ingredients he is correct!ha, got another one in the shed, dont know whether to make another for a bigger throttle body or just chop plate for standard body off this one and reweld another plate on for larger throttlebody.

What size are the VAG ones chris? I'm not so sure a bigger throttle body will be that much of a benefit. Could you port and smooth the inlet?

[dannygti]

sorry mate forgot about this there around £990 inc

That's EXTREMELY expensive imo for what it is, (not critisising the quality of the product) I've had a quote For a manifold to be made to my own spec using v-band fittings etc and perfectly equal length with 321ss for a lot less than that.

[blackie_2k5]

i think he said that was full system in a previous post danny, could be wrong.. so custom mani/dowpipe/exhaust from a reputable place would probs be near that...still not chepa but not them ost expensive ive seen


as for the inlet...i knew id seen that somewhere, is that just a new flange on or was it fettled more?

[dannygti]

I'm sure Tom will confirm but I asked him how much the manifold was, didn't mention any other part of the exhaust system.

[blackie_2k5]

yeah i seen mate, im just trying to put sense to that price :p

as i recall him saying when someone asked near the start of the thread...that the mani came as part of the system and got a price on that...

if not im with you tbh :fcuk:

[Tom5190]

ill be perfectly honest and say i dont no, i will find out tomorrow! spent too long under a fucking 406 today my head is batterd

[tweeqd]

i
as for the inlet...i knew id seen that somewhere, is that just a new flange on or was it fettled more?

ive got a big port AGU to fit on to my 16v head
the port spacing is about right but the flange is well out and it needs the runners cut down to fit in the bay plus it needs flipping the pther way so the TB is on the other side

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/nov2011021.jpg

[106TURBO]

thats cause you have the wrong one :)

[tweeqd]

ive been looking for one with the TB on the other side to use in my golf cab but will just modify this one for the ax as its a big port one or im posibly tempted to modify an S1 rallye one

[e8_pqck]

so specifically what VAG is the manifold off then?

[blackie_2k5]

1.8t from Ibiza Cupra etc looking at it

[axsaxoman]

ive got a big port AGU to fit on to my 16v head
the port spacing is about right but the flange is well out and it needs the runners cut down to fit in the bay plus it needs flipping the pther way so the TB is on the other side

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VTRturbo16/A16%20AXT/nov2011021.jpg



you keep putting that out of context quote on yor posts ,but this time it would seem very accurate .
if you turn this manifold around the t/body will hit the g/box /starter motor or brake servo - as it will then be below the port heights+ you have to alter port spacings+ runners + t/body flange---- you might as well start with alloy tubing from scratch and make your own as you must have alloy welding capabilities to be be considering altering port spacings etc
as for larger t/body -- if a bmw 740 (4.5litre v8 revving to 7k can make 360bhp n/a an engine 3 times the size of a saxo) and that uses a 60mm body--then why would you need a a huge t/body when boosting --you don,t-
I think the above proves my statment was correct and especially for for you in this instance

the S1 manifold is more than big enough ,but if you must go larger t/body 55mm is plenty big enough for any tu boosted unit .
If we can get 300+ with only 18psi you don,t need any bigger as you can up the boost with a turbo-- now that is common sense
a smaller t/body will help your light to large throttle transitions and make it easier to map + control the wheelspin

the old maestro diesel/ leyland daf van inlet manifold would be a better starting point than the one you show , as another option --still needs lots of mods .

[tweeqd]

i havent mentioned a larger throttle body

and yes if you were stupid enough to just flip the manifold over it would not fit, but as the flange for the head would need cutting off and a new one welded on you just need to cut the runners at an angle so it sits in the right place, its not rocket science
again you havent read the post john just jumping in like a 5 year old, the reason i said to use this manifold is the port spacing is the same so wont need changing :wall:

i know you dont need a massive throttle body, thats why i run an S1 item

and andrew this manifold is from an AGU bigport 1.8 20vT engine from an A3T

[Pug106-GTI]

I thought he ment get it modified so that the inlet manifold stayed as it is but the box was actually flipped not the whole inlet turned upside down

[blackie_2k5]

I was referring to the one on the gti mate, as I think that's what e8 was after?

[e8_pqck]

yes, one on the GTI, but all information is good!

I'm running the standard 16v manifold at present. I've seen some decent power put through them so will probably keep it. Interesting to see what other people are experimenting with.