fitting 16v engine in to a lower spec

[Matt_e]

ive got a basic spec 106 s1, and i was reading on here you need to weld a engine mount in to place in order to fit a 16v engine

does anybody know which mount i need, as i cant find any more info on it

thanks

[ed-bradley]

need the inner wing mount thats welded onto the inner chassis of Saxo Furio/westcoast/VTR/VTS's. They're basically spot welded in, not alot of effort to get off nor is it to weld on.

Edit: although, with it being a 106..It may differ.

[jeffchiz]

you dont NEED to weld it in, you can grind the old one down or use the 1.1 mount

[kennym1987]

use the 1.1 mount

[Matt_e]

although, with it being a 106..It may differ.

heres what the inner wing looks like

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/matt2104/peugeot%20106/Photo0233.jpg

you dont NEED to weld it in, you can grind the old one down or use the 1.1 mount

chuck out the mount that was on the car, so just just need to buy something like these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saxo-VTS-VTR-Uprated-Top-Engine-Mount-/270774596219?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0b6c727b#ht_583wt_1163
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-saxo-VTR-VTS-106-97-03-engine-mount-/260911543768?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cbf8a35d8#ht_500wt_1413

[ed-bradley]

Ahh, looks similar to my 1.1 bay irrc.

You can get away with using that mount, but by using the top part of the 1.1 mount (The thin black arm peice) and bolting it onto the 16v mount, that bolts to the back of the engine.

[kennym1987]

Ahh, looks similar to my 1.1 bay irrc.

You can get away with using that mount, but by using the top part of the 1.1 mount (The thin black arm peice) and bolting it onto the 16v mount, that bolts to the back of the engine.

+1 to this. just had a look and my bay looks like a similar set up

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/kennym1987/11out.jpg

[AlexB]

S1 base uses the same as saxo/s2 its the rally and xsi that differ

I really wouldnt use that mount tbh if peugeot/citroen decided anything over 1.4 needed the bigger mount and peoples tendanc to tune motors youll be putting well over double the torque its designed to take from even a breathed 16v

you could bodge the 1.1 mount but imo if your going to do it do it properly rather than risking it failing

[Matt_e]

S1 base uses the same as saxo/s2 its the rally and xsi that differ

I really wouldnt use that mount tbh if peugeot/citroen decided anything over 1.4 needed the bigger mount and peoples tendanc to tune motors youll be putting well over double the torque its designed to take from even a breathed 16v

you could bodge the 1.1 mount but imo if your going to do it do it properly rather than risking it failing

so better off buying one like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-saxo-VTR-VTS-106-97-03-engine-mount-/260911543768?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cbf8a35d8#ht_500wt_1413

whats the bit that people say need welding?

[AlexB]

the bit that needs welding is what the part in that link bolts too on the shell
If you look through the hole in my scuttle you can see it in this shot

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/2011-03-04155209.jpg

Youll need to cut one off another shell or possibly 106parts may list them in stock
It will fit the s1 shell as Aron fitted one to his old xsi but that never got finished :(

Ill check on 106parts for you


:edit: no they only have the whole chassis leg listed

[Matt_e]

thanks for that

[AlexB]

No worries just trying to help out

Theres a lot less space in an s1 bay so yu really dont want the engine moving as something will catch wether its inlet on the scuttle or manifold onto the rad which will just break something

[Matt_e]

yeah may aswell do it properley while the engine bay is clear, as you say it may cause problems later on bodging it

[westwell_22]

Found a pic of one removed from a car and saved it for my own reference.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6395556197_210711563d_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56384824@N04/6395556197/)