Throttle Bodies

[geraintthomas]

Just been doing some research on them.

A quick question, if I were to get a set of GSXR 600 throttle bodies fitted to an engine (for example, Zetec-S), how much would the whole thing cost to fit / convert? Parts, labour, mapping etc?

I've absolutely no idea - it could be £300 or £3,000 to me! So what would it cost on average for the whole thing?

Cheers!

EDIT: I didn't see the other post about throttle bodies, so apologies on that. But yeah, question still remains!

[axsaxoman]

hi, can,t say for sure what it would costto use m/c t/bodies as you will need somebody to ake you a manifold = linkage etc ,etc .
but here is a link to ready made direct to head units
i can supply these-- at a good proce
http://atpowershop.co.uk/catalog/ford-zetec-throttle-bodies-assembly-direct-head-p-143.html

[geraintthomas]

Thanks. It seems a lot more work than I thought then! You can pick up GSXR 600 tb's on eBay for about £120.

Basically if I were to approach a man who knew how to do it with those throttle bodies and say "Here, convert my engine to run these", then how much would it cost for everything. In very simple terms lol!

[DeanAngell1234]

A lot :P

[Tannerman]

You would only be doing it for noise as gains won't be that good if anything surly?

[Gandi699]

Dont forget you are going to need something to create a spark if you run carbs

[DeanAngell1234]

I know a guy who has TB his VTS, even though he's done most of the labour himself it still cost around 2k :/

[xsi16v]

Dont forget you are going to need something to create a spark if you run carbs

who has mentioned carbs?? he's asking about TB's

If you did it yourself you could do it for less than 1k including mapping. Ive done a few for under that.

[Ryan]

You would only be doing it for noise as gains won't be that good if anything surly?

Except for the the fact that TBs often increase midrange on even a mildly tuned engine.

[KamRacing]

Except for the the fact that TBs often increase midrange on even a mildly tuned engine.

Its where most of the gains are.

[geraintthomas]

I definitely couldn't do it myself - I'm not that mechanically minded at all. Wouldn't like to try it to be honest.

I've seen a few videos, and adore the throaty sound they give. Would look into it if it's not expensive, didn't think it would be in the £thousands at all :( like I said, I didn't know a thing about having them fitted.

So for a garage to do all of the work, you're talking a couple of thousand?!

[axsaxoman]

there should be no reason why you could not get ready made t/b,s and a suitable stand alon ecu fitted for around 2k--drive in = drive out .
si the car fitted with the zetec a special or jusr some sort of frod already fitted with a zetec

[Ryan]

I definitely couldn't do it myself - I'm not that mechanically minded at all. Wouldn't like to try it to be honest.

I've seen a few videos, and adore the throaty sound they give. Would look into it if it's not expensive, didn't think it would be in the £thousands at all :( like I said, I didn't know a thing about having them fitted.

So for a garage to do all of the work, you're talking a couple of thousand?!

buy the bike bodies sandy recommends, send to him for colin satchell manifold to be made

Get garage to fit that if you are worried (although its not a huge job) ecu if you went predator again easy to fit,

[geraintthomas]

there should be no reason why you could not get ready made t/b,s and a suitable stand alon ecu fitted for around 2k--drive in = drive out .
si the car fitted with the zetec a special or jusr some sort of frod already fitted with a zetec

It's my car I'm having in a few months - Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec S, standard 125bhp engine.

2K sounds a hell of a lot, wasn't really expecting that. Nevermind :(

[Cam]

It's my car I'm having in a few months - Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec S, standard 125bhp engine.

2K sounds a hell of a lot, wasn't really expecting that. Nevermind :(

What was you expecting?

[Gandi699]

who has mentioned carbs?? he's asking about TB's

If you did it yourself you could do it for less than 1k including mapping. Ive done a few for under that.

My bad thought he was on about bike carbs!

[Gandi699]

It's my car I'm having in a few months - Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec S, standard 125bhp engine.

2K sounds a hell of a lot, wasn't really expecting that. Nevermind :(

What about a racing puma engine swap?

[geraintthomas]

What was you expecting?

Nothing, hence why I said I had no idea how much they were. I did some research onto what they do, what engine's can have certain TB's fitted, etc. Just didn't know how much it would cost when it came to having them fitted.

To be honest, I always wanted to know how to get that throaty sound out of the engine. Seemed like the perfect solution!

[Tannerman]

Except for the the fact that TBs often increase midrange on even a mildly tuned engine.

Just iv known a fair few guys that have tried bike carbs n bodies n they rarely see any gains that worth the trouble/money.

The only thing they did get is the awesome induction sound.

Just speaking from personal experience that's all.

Plus surely by the time you've spent all the money on bike bodies you might as well go a lil extra n get a budget boost build?or even some jenveys?

[stevo1600]

if you want a throaty engine fit an open cone air filter. bodie noise is FAR superior though but thats 2grand.

bodies are an epxensive route, youd be best off fitting a 4-2-1 manifold/decent exhaust syetme and an enclosed induction kit and get it remapped as 2k is alot. dont know how muh power that opens up for a 1.7 zetec however, but that wont cost you that much at all. posiblly even cams if the zetec is dohc?

[Ryan]

Just iv known a fair few guys that have tried bike carbs n bodies n they rarely see any gains that worth the trouble/money.

The only thing they did get is the awesome induction sound.

Just speaking from personal experience that's all.

Plus surely by the time you've spent all the money on bike bodies you might as well go a lil extra n get a budget boost build?or even some jenveys?

Most people don't see the big big bhp gains they expect, they ignore the improvements int he way the engine responds and the midrange.

I personally am not someone who raves about the bike bodies but the fact is you can get very good bang for buck out of them when y look at the overall engine characteristics,.

Not everyone wants boost, the way an engine responds isn't just about the max bhp figure.

[Tannerman]

Doesn't sound like good bang for your buck if it costs around 2 grand to get running.lol

[Sandy309]

It's my car I'm having in a few months - Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec S, standard 125bhp engine.

2K sounds a hell of a lot, wasn't really expecting that. Nevermind :(

Because of the alternator location (very difficult to re-locate), it's very difficult to get a tract design that will plump up the torque curve substantially. Also the VVT on the 1.7 will require more expensive ECUs to run properly. A good increase in peak power over the regular engine is possible, but it's not going to be as cost effective as it is on 106/Saxos.

Here's one of mine using the Jenvey DTH bodies with the alternator in the standard position (1400 Fiesta, but the same layout); I made some custom trumpets to maximise the length, but it was impossible to fit an effective filter and it still wasn't working as well as the other set up we developed:
http://www.goodhand.co.uk/sandy/files/ABL05.jpg

Here's another of mine (1600 Fiesta, same basic layout), with the alternator moved to allow us to make a better located bike bodies based set up, which worked much better than the DTH bodies overall, but is a whole lot more work to install!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/futtoballs/Castle%20combe%20race%20day/2010_04050184.jpg

[Ryan]

Doesn't sound like good bang for your buck if it costs around 2 grand to get running.lol

You don't need to spend 2 grand. On a saxo You could do it for under a grand if you are fitting it yourself and go the predator route. That's not mega money for the change in engine characteristics.

[AlexB]

You don't need to spend 2 grand. On a saxo You could do it for under a grand if you are fitting it yourself and go the predator route. That's not mega money for the change in engine characteristics.

exactly

i picked up my bodies second hand for 500 quid with a tps and inlet ect
add a predator and your at 1k mapped and on the road
fuel line bits cost me about 80 quid so you could easily get up and running for around 1k