(chipwizards) how much have you 16v people paid

[slimwiltaz]

yo! I've rang chipwizards and left them a voice mail, in the mean time i'm just wondering if any one has cammed there vts at chipwizards and what they paid for a map and power run? also if chipwizards fitted the cams, pump, belt ect... thanks in advance.

[slimwiltaz]

:bump::bump:

[JimmehP88]

Not sure but I think Wayne just does the mapping not fitting, what area are you, know a guy who had a deal on the job lot


Cheers

Jimmy

[scotthep]

think its around the 400 mark not sure ... i got mine done with a deal Ricky-p Rpm was doing which was Camming, fitting ect.. and mapping at chipwizard's all in for 900 .

[jeffchiz]

Be ready to get a print out of 180bhp if its being dyno'd at chipwizards

[slimwiltaz]

Not sure but I think Wayne just does the mapping not fitting, what area are you, know a guy who had a deal on the job lot


Cheers

Jimmy

im co durham matey, the guy near by?

[slimwiltaz]

think its around the 400 mark not sure ... i got mine done with a deal Ricky-p Rpm was doing which was Camming, fitting ect.. and mapping at chipwizard's all in for 900 .

was that long ago and was that including cams? ill keep trying them just read they were decent

[slimwiltaz]

Be ready to get a print out of 180bhp if its being dyno'd at chipwizards

haha am more interested in the cams being fitted and mapped really, just done a bit search and they came up with a good bit feedback thought ad give a shout out see if anyone has used them.

[JimmehP88]

He's very good is Wayne, loads of friends have been, and I had my old one done by him, and soon will
Have another. People do say that he get precise figures for certain setups but rollers wil vary all the time. It's fuelling you wanna worry about and he gets it spot on, don't worry what power figure you get.

And RickyP will do the fitting etc I'm sure, dunno if his deal is still on though, give him a call


Cheers

Jimmy

[AndySAXO]

He's very good is Wayne, loads of friends have been, and I had my old one done by him, and soon will
Have another. People do say that he get precise figures for certain setups but rollers wil vary all the time. It's fuelling you wanna worry about and he gets it spot on, don't worry what power figure you get.

And RickyP will do the fitting etc I'm sure, dunno if his deal is still on though, give him a call


Cheers

Jimmy

There always two side to a story and I hear about ecu he map and the fueling was all over the place,

Also look at getting new followers when changing the camshafts. I am sure that Ricky guy knows the score.

[Mochachino]

Not sure but I think Wayne just does the mapping not fitting, what area are you, know a guy who had a deal on the job lot


Cheers

Jimmy

He's very good is Wayne, loads of friends have been, and I had my old one done by him, and soon will
Have another. People do say that he get precise figures for certain setups but rollers wil vary all the time. It's fuelling you wanna worry about and he gets it spot on, don't worry what power figure you get.

And RickyP will do the fitting etc I'm sure, dunno if his deal is still on though, give him a call


Cheers

Jimmy


Hello. This is my contribution. A post acknowledging the name Wayne. Il make sure I mention Wayne in all my future posts.

[blackie_2k5]

Go to automark in stokesly, he's very good, good mates with Wayne as I'm sure that's who trained him

And it's alot closer

[slimwiltaz]

Go to automark in stokesly, he's very good, good mates with Wayne as I'm sure that's who trained him

And it's alot closer

will do a bit search see if i can get his details and give him a ring

[slimwiltaz]

He's very good is Wayne, loads of friends have been, and I had my old one done by him, and soon will
Have another. People do say that he get precise figures for certain setups but rollers wil vary all the time. It's fuelling you wanna worry about and he gets it spot on, don't worry what power figure you get.

And RickyP will do the fitting etc I'm sure, dunno if his deal is still on though, give him a call


Cheers

Jimmy

also has rickyp got a website?

[jeffchiz]

the only thing that would stop me going to chipwizards for work being does is that any engine builder must know that their rolling roads figures are so innaccurate, so its either one of two things

they are good engine builders and know their print outs are stupidly high but they carry on regardless

or

they are shit at what they do so they dont know any better and are just iggnorant about their figures

either one i dont think id ever take my car there

[Mochachino]

the only thing that would stop me going to chipwizards for work being does is that any engine builder must know that their rolling roads figures are so innaccurate, so its either one of two things

they are good engine builders and know their print outs are stupidly high but they carry on regardless

or

they are shit at what they do so they dont know any better and are just iggnorant about their figures

either one i dont think id ever take my car there

Rolling roads are never accurate. An engine dyno should be used if you want a precise figure. Rolling roads are good to show before and afters etc

[blackie_2k5]

http://www.automarkuk.com/index.php

[MuZiZZle]

they good blackie?

[blackie_2k5]

Yes, his rollers do read a little high, but nothing majorly, and tbh who's don't these days

Eg a jp4 with ph3/head work 163bhp, not major but more then expected??

He's generally got a 6 week waiting list for mapping, read from that what you will :)

[scotthep]

My readout was, 141bhp before , 156bhp afterwards ...

With the usual Ph3's , 4 - branch , Supersprint race , Raceland filter ect...

Definitely could feel the difference before and after though , that's all i was bothered about , not the figures.

[Sophia_Bush]

well my mate parry121 had jono old 708d engine and automark remapped ecu to suit iirc when he had it done jono made 159bhp or so parry had it r/rd again with diff mani exhaustt and induction at awesome gti and it made 161bhp iirc so figures seem there there abouts

[AXracing]

Go to automark in stokesly, he's very good, good mates with Wayne as I'm sure that's who trained him

And it's alot closer

Agree these guys are very good I would also recommend.

[slimwiltaz]

im going to ring around the guys suggested and get prices thanks for all the feedback :y:

[slimwiltaz]

rickp-rpm quoted me 999 all in, havn't heard anything back of chipwizards ill try again

[Ryan]

the only thing that would stop me going to chipwizards for work being does is that any engine builder must know that their rolling roads figures are so innaccurate, so its either one of two things

they are good engine builders and know their print outs are stupidly high but they carry on regardless

or

they are shit at what they do so they dont know any better and are just iggnorant about their figures

either one i dont think id ever take my car there

Any good engine builder would be more worried about the quality of the MAP itself rather than the final figures. Any builder worth his salt knows all rollers vary and that the final map is much more important.

Just look at pull1off (seeing as you do stuff with them) they use NMS who have a great rep for mapping yet in recent back to back tests seem to have rollers reading 10bhp more than others.

[blackie_2k5]

Rollers are just a guide at the end of the day, if you want true figures you get an engine dyno involved

Otherwise they should only really be used for safe mapping and helping diagnose running issues

[jeffchiz]

Any good engine builder would be more worried about the quality of the MAP itself rather than the final figures. Any builder worth his salt knows all rollers vary and that the final map is much more important.

Just look at pull1off (seeing as you do stuff with them) they use NMS who have a great rep for mapping yet in recent back to back tests seem to have rollers reading 10bhp more than others.
I see what you mean, would just be interesting to see if they believe the figures or if they jist use them as reference points which if it is the latter then I've probably spoken out of turn

I think its the whole mapping std ecu thing aswell nms won't touch a std ecu as they know they won't be happy with the results they get and its also down to them not wanting that sort of client

My housemate did the catcam trial for the new 743's at rs tuning made 151bhp, then at nms he made 144bhp and the made 141 at surrey rolling road seems the further south you go the lower bhp figure lol

Mines going to nms in the next week or so to sort it out, its a bag of nails atm

[jeffchiz]

rickp-rpm quoted me 999 all in, havn't heard anything back of chipwizards ill try again

what does that price include mate?

[Ryan]

See rolling road graphs thread..out of the graphs tom posted NMS gave the highest reading by a long long way. You've got the figures mixed up ;)

I also am not a fan of remapping the standard ecu, but the northerners seem to lap it up even of it does mean they are screwed if Wayne stops doing them.

[JoshB]

what does that price include mate?

Ricky's offer is Ph3's, new followers, Cambelt changed, all fitted and mapped. To be honest it's not a bad price at all.


I also am not a fan of remapping the standard ecu, but the northerners seem to lap it up even of it does mean they are screwed if Wayne stops doing them.

The standard ECU is pretty good to be honest for remapping, as long you're not bolting any induction modifications on. It's got 24 points to map to, some after market ones only have 12.

And there's loads of places that do it as well as ChipWizards ;)

[Ryan]

The standard ECU is pretty good to be honest for remapping, as long you're not bolting any induction modifications on. It's got 24 points to map to, some after market ones only have 12.

And there's loads of places that do it as well as ChipWizards ;)

Sorry if I wasn't clear, it was mostly relating to the modifying the standard ecu to run throttle bodies.

There's not loads of people doing this.

Having the ability to store and back up the map on a standalone is something which is good, espec as over the years I've been on the forums there has been a few of the modified standard ecus fail (more often on 3 plug tu5 j4 engines)

[JoshB]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, it was mostly relating to the modifying the standard ecu to run throttle bodies.

There's not loads of people doing this.

Yeah, I agree with you there.

[jeffchiz]

See rolling road graphs thread..out of the graphs tom posted NMS gave the highest reading by a long long way. You've got the figures mixed up ;)

I also am not a fan of remapping the standard ecu, but the northerners seem to lap it up even of it does mean they are screwed if Wayne stops doing them.

ah crap yea i did lol hes done that many rolling roads before and after different modifications its hard to keep track

[Ryan]

ah crap yea i did lol hes done that many rolling roads before and after different modifications its hard to keep track

Lol. I found it interesting looking at the figures in that thread tbh.

NMS reading a fair bit higher than the other two.

Hence my initial statement, NMS have a great rep for mapping. The final RR power results as always are not the important thing.

[slimwiltaz]

anyway thought id update to anyone who is interested i've got it booked into automark for the 29th may :P

[Liam_]

anyway thought id update to anyone who is interested i've got it booked into automark for the 29th may :P

Be interested to know how you get on. They adjusting the cam timing too?

I know a few people with 3 plugs and Chipwizards remaps who have a constant fault code about a processing fault. Would be a bit of a pain come MOT time unless you switch to a standard ECU.

I also know of a few cases where the ECU has shat itself completely - has always put me off, especially considering the cost of the map.

[slimwiltaz]

yes he will be adjusting the timing too :D ill make a thread when i get it done :D