Wildest Cam for saxo

[nazmitocak]

Hi:
I am using kentcam pt 52 cams on my saxo at the moment,
and looking for a more powerful cam.
which is the wildest cam ?:panic:

[piggy123]

ph5 if i remember correctly
catcam 812 is the highest i have ever heard be used

[nazmitocak]

I am planning to buy ph5 ,

is this right ? ph5>ph4>ph3

[jeffchiz]

I am planning to buy ph5 ,

is this right ? ph5>ph4>ph3

yea lower the number the less wild it is, im simple terms

what sort of bottom end are you having and what sort of induction?

[kirk]

For ph5 came your going to need forged or at least pocketed pistons and rods as I presume it will be revving high?

[jeffchiz]

For ph5 came your going to need forged or at least pocketed pistons and rods as I presume it will be revving high?

will also need throttle bodies and probably solid lifters and stiffer springs

hence why i asked him what sort of bottom end and induction hes got planned

[Ryan]

If he's running pt52s already one would expect that the rest of the engine has already been done ;)

[jeffchiz]

If he's running pt52s already one would expect that the rest of the engine has already been done ;)

that is a very valid point we both seemed to have mised lol if its not catcam/newman and you're a saxp member you dont need to know about other brands :homme:

[Ryan]

Kent are very big in Europe, alot of guys still run things like the PT52 in Portugal etc..

[jeffchiz]

Kent are very big in Europe, alot of guys still run things like the PT52 in Portugal etc..

everytime i see kent i just think of classic minis as my older brother was really in to modifying old minis when i was much younger

[nazmitocak]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387253

newman solid lifters, newman springs and ph5 hasbeen added to old specs.

Infact engine started to run already,
some guys from my country said that ph5 is not the wildest cam for saxo,
they just compare the cams duration.
honestly i dont know the meanings and effects of the parameters writen on the brands catalog. any body have an idea

[axsaxoman]

you can decide on correct cam once you say what bhp you want and at what rpm you want max power
also your p252 will run ok on single t/body
But now you are at the point when any higher spec cam will require t/bodies + solid lifters+ forged pistons ecu system etc to allow you to use 8k rpm , or more
high spec engine with wild cams will never pass a REAL mot even with a cat fitted.
you should also consider type of driving you do mostly
a very wild cam profile will be very poor at low rpms and will not really come alive till 5k +
the wildest cams don,t really work till even higher up the rpm range
this is why rally + race cars use close ratio gear boxs so when you change gear it will not drop the rpms too much and keep you in the power band

[Ryan]

I dont think hes worried about the MOT John (being based where he is) From previous threads this isnt a road car so one would expect the OP is just after the most peak power.

[nazmitocak]

you can decide on correct cam once you say what bhp you want and at what rpm you want max power
also your p252 will run ok on single t/body
But now you are at the point when any higher spec cam will require t/bodies + solid lifters+ forged pistons ecu system etc to allow you to use 8k rpm , or more
high spec engine with wild cams will never pass a REAL mot even with a cat fitted.
you should also consider type of driving you do mostly
a very wild cam profile will be very poor at low rpms and will not really come alive till 5k +
the wildest cams don,t really work till even higher up the rpm range
this is why rally + race cars use close ratio gear boxs so when you change gear it will not drop the rpms too much and keep you in the power band
"mot" did you mean mot test ? john
I have a gmc itb and i bought it from your company :)
just use it in rolling and drag races ,


I dont think hes worried about the MOT John (being based where he is) From previous threads this isnt a road car so one would expect the OP is just after the most peak power.

i couldnt understand the bold part

[KamRacing]

ph5 if i remember correctly
catcam 812 is the highest i have ever heard be used

I have a customer building his new race engine with the cat cam 1321816 (http://www.kamracing.co.uk/cat-cams-1321816.html)! 300 degree inlet with 13mm lift!
He's going for 230bhp though!

[Ryan]

I have a customer building his new race engine with the cat cam 1321816 (http://www.kamracing.co.uk/cat-cams-1321816.html)! 300 degree inlet with 13mm lift!
He's going for 230bhp though!

Be interesting to hear how that comes out.

I always considered 811s but now think is it really worth the extra money over what ive got.

[e8_pqck]

im running newman ph3s and theyre canny like

nearly at a 100 posts. ;)

[solvi]

i was told mines are..715 catcams any opinions on this ones also runing hi-comp pistons...

yap kent is a well known in portugal..

[nazmitocak]

I have a customer building his new race engine with the cat cam 1321816 (http://www.kamracing.co.uk/cat-cams-1321816.html)! 300 degree inlet with 13mm lift!
He's going for 230bhp though!

Did you finnished this project, is there a a difference with
1321816 vs PH5

[nazmitocak]

I have a customer building his new race engine with the cat cam 1321816 (http://www.kamracing.co.uk/cat-cams-1321816.html)! 300 degree inlet with 13mm lift!
He's going for 230bhp though!

Did you try "1321816"
could you compare them with ph5's

[Mochachino]

Irc there wasnt much advantage of the ph5 over ph4? From when was it toad built his engine, something to do with torque? Cant remember now.

[KamRacing]

Did you try "1321816"
could you compare them with ph5's

No. Historically we have done no engine building. We've only opened our workshop this year. The customer did not feed back about his build. Short of looking at paper figures I cannot help as we've not tested the cams ourselves.