where does engine conversion?

[jamie1994]

i am new to the saxo community and need help, i have got a saxo 1.1 desire and want abit more power, i have read through some threads and say buy a vts or do a conversion. so i was thinking doing a conversion as 1.1's has a better chasis, so could someone help me? :)

[Quick]

Better off getting a Vts!

Less hastle, easier to insure etc........

[Prickle]

1.1s have better chassis?

Pretty sure they're all the same..

[jamie1994]

thats what i was thinking as they are all pretty much the same cars, do you know how much it will be to insure a vts as im 18 years old?

[Quick]

thats what i was thinking as they are all pretty much the same cars, do you know how much it will be to insure a vts as im 18 years old?

No, as we have none of your details and are not meerkats!

[Ali123]

thats what i was thinking as they are all pretty much the same cars, do you know how much it will be to insure a vts as im 18 years old?

unless youve got your self 1 years ncb it will cost alot!

[Loz2212]

Depends on where you live etc. I'm 23 and pay 1100 f/c with 4 years no claims but I am under a BD postcode which is a pretty bad area to get insured.

[GeeDawg]

thats what i was thinking as they are all pretty much the same cars, do you know how much it will be to insure a vts as im 18 years old?

I think if your postcode is anywhere near a big city down south then your focked i pay 460 on a VTS and im 37 but i do live under a Croydon postcode so i get rinsed basically.

[devilsadvocate]

unless youve got your self 1 years ncb it will cost alot!

And the rest.

One years NCB will barely make a dent, cheap is sub £500.

[jeffchiz]

And the rest.

One years NCB will barely make a dent, cheap is sub £500.

aye im on 4 ncb and im 22 and its still nearly a grand

[m4tt274]

18 and a VTS is a no chance.
VTR is only shy of a VTS but you could insure one.

convert the 1.1 to a VTR.
same year same parts as a rule. so what ever year your 1.1 is, find a VTR from the same thats had a rear smash or something and swap the front.

[Gandi699]

Depends where you are and age though. I was 25 and insured a 182 with 0 ncb for £900

[saxo-parts]

we've been known to do the odd vts conversion here and there

[jamie1994]

yeah i live in milton keynes what is quite a good area, its a 2003 car so its one of the newest ones :)

[devilsadvocate]

we've been known to do the odd vts conversion here and there

Say whatttttt? :)

Worth the drive to Jason, personal recommendation.

[LSOfreak]

best option would be to buy a cheap vtr engine - can be had for £50, take it to mandyslover to fit, dont bother telling insurance or dvla etc. as no one would ever know seeing as it looks identical to the standard engine.
And then in a year or 2 when you build up a couple ncb, then buy a vts.

At 18 years old, a vts will be expensive. Also i wouldnt want to do a vts conversion becuase:

1) it'll still look turd as it wont have the vt bodykit/interior.
2) i wouldnt want to risk driving around an undeclared 16valve engine incase you have an accident

The only positive point about a conversion is that it'll make a good sleeper tbh
also, they're all the same chassis lol

[jamie1994]

thanks mate :) how much will they charge me to fit? and i thought vtr's and vts's are pretty much the same?

[LSOfreak]

nope, vts is 16valve so more quicker, expensive on insurance, more on fuel, more on road tax

[jamie1994]

ahh cheers mate :) so there is no point in me modding my 1.1, may aswell just buy a vts and mod that instead :)

[Prickle]

ahh cheers mate :) so there is no point in me modding my 1.1, may aswell just buy a vts and mod that instead :)

Its all down to what you can afford which is why people go for the 1.4s, vtrs.

Only thing is the vts can be thirsty on a good hoon, tax is :homme: and insurance may be abit :panic:

ive got no points, crashes and 4ncbs and im paying 1k still...

[saxo_singh]

I would just get the same engine out a peugeot 307 or 206 (1.6 16v) and tell insurance, will be way cheaper then telling them its a vts.

Insurance figures for saxos put me of a few weeks ago.

I'm 20
1 ncb
Average area
3years driving
£1550 fully comp on a audi a4 2 litre tdi s line avant, group insurance 29/50.
My old saxo 1.4 was £1200 fully comp, can see now why I moved on from saxos.

[jamie1994]

i might just go for a vtr then :) can i still put a vts engine in a vtr at a later date?

[Prickle]

i might just go for a vtr then :) can i still put a vts engine in a vtr at a later date?

Yes you can.

[jamie1994]

thats good as i will want a bigger engine, what about in a 1.4?

[LSOfreak]

i wouldnt spend money modding a 1.1 tbh or if you do, i wouldnt throw alot of money at it!

may aswell start on a faster, better looking, better equipped base

wait to get a 1.4 or 1.6 vtr and go crazy on that

[jamie1994]

im thinking of a furio as they are not too expensive and i have the money saved up already, but can i put a vts engine in it as an when i want?

[jamie1994]

i will upgrade to a 1.4 then if you can put a vts engine in it

[saxo_singh]

You sound so desperate to run a vts engine lol believe me there not as quick as people say, unless you spend money on cams, mapping, throttle bodies etc then they will be quick.

[jamie1994]

yeah people make them sound amazing

[Prickle]

Tbh the first week/2 i went from a 1.0 16v car. i grinned like nothing! seriously i blipped the throttle i had a seizure. fun!

nearly 6 months on it feels slow but thats like anything, you get used to its power. get it passed 4 to 6.5k and its whips a smile on. does me anyway

[jamie1994]

yeah :) i just want a decent pretty fast car to have fun instead of a 1.1

[Prickle]

yeah :) i just want a decent pretty fast car to have fun instead of a 1.1

:hug:

they are snail slow like haha.

[LSOfreak]

i had a vtr as my first car at 17
i was a hero compared to everyone else with 1.1's and 1.2's lol

oh those were the days ....

[KrazyDayz]

a VTR costs more to insure than my 172 and my 182 cup..

i pay £160pm on a VTR and £111/£120 on the clio's

dd40*

an the 1.1 has rear drum brakes.

[Beaniemoo]

We are in Milton Keynes and do a few engine conversions.
Also have a Vts up for sale :)

[Mikehardy-vtr]

Im 19 and paying 1300 on a vtr/s and iv had declared the engine swap, i just havent got the money to declare the throttle bodies i just put on just yet so at the moment if i get pulled and the police check the car over i will probably get shafted

if you really want to do the conversion take it to someone on here as pretty much everyone that offers it has a very good knowledge of what they are doing :P

[jamie1994]

yeah because im 18 and only just passed so vts and vtr is out of the question really so 1.4s are my only option

[LSOfreak]

a 1.4 westcoast or furio is definitely a better option than a 1.1
has the vt bodykit and sometimes better interior too (if its a later furio)

[A_Whit]

best option would be to buy a cheap vtr engine - can be had for £50, take it to mandyslover to fit, dont bother telling insurance or dvla etc. as no one would ever know seeing as it looks identical to the standard engine.
And then in a year or 2 when you build up a couple ncb, then buy a vts.

At 18 years old, a vts will be expensive. Also i wouldnt want to do a vts conversion becuase:

1) it'll still look turd as it wont have the vt bodykit/interior.
2) i wouldnt want to risk driving around an undeclared 16valve engine incase you have an accident

The only positive point about a conversion is that it'll make a good sleeper tbh
also, they're all the same chassis lol

But if you do crash and insurance checks and does discover a 1.6 8v conversion you will get distroyed

[mlawlan69]

But if you do crash and insurance checks and does discover a 1.6 8v conversion you will get distroyed

this is true, BUT they are practically identical only the airboxes look different IIRC they are hardly going to RR it to check its power

[LSOfreak]

they look literally identical
how would an assessor know its a 1.6 or 1.1 lol

[Prickle]

Or they could look at the code on the side of the engine?

[LSOfreak]

chances of that are quite slim from what ive seen though. It is a risk yeah but from my experience, the assessor usually only opens the bonnet to see if the chassis legs bent...

[jamie1994]

il just buy a furio as that seems the cheaper and easier option :) do you know if the furio has a vt bodykit?

[jeffchiz]

Yes it dose

[jamie1994]

thats good :) just need to save my pemmies now :)

[jamie1994]

i meant pennies

[hobers4]

vtr is a good engine and being 18 you would so put a vts into a wall to be honest mate drop a furio in the its easy as anything if u need it done pm me

[Cam]

vtr is a good engine and being 18 you would so put a vts into a wall to be honest mate drop a furio in the its easy as anything if u need it done pm me

Be a waste of time a money..

[hobers4]

yea just buy a vtr when u have a years ncb lol mine costs 1600 for my vtr with 1 year ncb