best engine oil for mk1 vtr 60,000 miles

[blacksaxodevil]

hi guys what engine oil would be the best for my mk1 vtr. it has the silver top engine and has done just over 60,000 miles.

the car is my every day used motor its not a track car and doesnt do a lot of miles at all.

want a half decent oil something like castrol or millers.

need tyo know the grade really to use

[sam_16v]

castrol 10-40 :y:

[blacksaxodevil]

ok and why that one

[blacksaxodevil]

semi synthetic, fully synthetic, gtx, magnatec. etc etc

[m4tt274]

new oil* all will do the job, more expensive ones are usually more magnetic but as the car is a daily just cheap plonk will do fine. if driven hard a more regular change is needed and more expensive oils tend to be recommended

[blacksaxodevil]

think your advice is better thrown in the bin to be honest, more expensive oil as you said is better so why just plonk some cheap shitty oil in that is as good as chucking in mayonnaise. i asked whats the best and what grade etc

[m4tt274]

i think your misunderstanding the purpose of oil and why more expensive oils are more expensive.
becuase its an 8v VTR used as a daily, it doesnt need some super posh synthetic racing oil, it was designed to run on cheap 10w/40 by citroen afterall. im a real 'user' of expensive oil, mobil 3000 ive always liked but only becuase i leave the car sat for a while then after warming it up give it some real hammer.
back in the 70s with poor engine designs engines would wear out, some more expensive oils were possibly worth while ive taken apart loads of old triumph lumps and xflows and found they have +60 rings in them and still have massive lips from wear, i stripped a VTS lump the other day with 125K on it and apart from a tiny coke ring there was NO LIP! absolutely amazing really. modern engines, (90s +) have such good oil pumps, filter systems, channel systems and such rigorous engine testing under so many conditions driven under normal circumstances they will never break really.

in my eyes, buy £50 oil and change it after 8K or £15 oil and change it after 5K... you can never change it to much, but after all, as much as i love them it is a a VTR and expensive oil probably constitutes 10% of the vehicles trade value


the saxo when it was new had some fairly cheap 10w/40 in it. The engine was designed

[greyjasper51]

Engine flush before you change it and pretty much any 10-40 new filter and change it every 5-8k mines gets done religously every 5k in the polo and its comes out like silk everytime :-) and that does get a hammering

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[blacksaxodevil]

ok well i dont want to chuck in some cheap shitty stuff. also i can pick up any oil at just over cost so cheap shitty stuff would cost me like £6 for £5 litres while castrol magnatec would cost me like £12 for 5 litres so wanted to know options on the best oil to use. so it 10w 40 by the sound of it. but what fully or semi synthetic

[greyjasper51]

semi will do the trick but if you get it that cheap get it spent on fully synthetic :)

[wicked-vtr]

I ran the vtr and vts on magnatec when i had them. seemed good enough to me, when I changed to magnatec from the millers I put in the vtr first time round it took away the slight tapping from the cam followers it had.

After some reaserch im running the 200 on Fuchs titan pro or something similar. It's a ehster based oil so doesn't break down as easily with the heat of the turbo. Ehster based oils are meant to be the best ones to go for as they dont degrade as quickly and the oils are attracted to the metal somehow, i cant remember the details tbh.

Theres a few good threads in the Opie oils section

[wadoryu]

Engine flush on changing, and a good quality 5w40 look on opie oils for the best stuff I know of.