Best way to tune my 1.4

[jamiep]

Whats the tried and tested ways for best tuning my westcoast? iv heard an enclosed induction kit and full system is pretty good? any other ways to get good power? thanks

[hesslevtr]

enclosed kits are best

how about save money toget a vtr/vts conversion as it will be more bhp per £

[jamiep]

i dont really wanna change the engine cos of the insurance! yeh ill deffinately be getting a filter, what are the cituning full systems like do ya know?? cheers

[hesslevtr]

i dont really wanna change the engine cos of the insurance! yeh ill deffinately be getting a filter, what are the cituning full systems like do ya know?? cheers

well you will have to tell your insurance company of the mods

i dont know about the cituning sytems piper or magnex for me

[Ry_B]

Best way to tune it? Stick a supercharged VTS lump in there.

Oh, what's your budget? ;)

[R4T]

gmc motorsport squeezed 141bhp from a citroen ax gt engine,so cant see why you couldnt get that out your 1! tune a 1.4 and be different i think you could suprise a few people

[bullit]

a system and induction is a start but i wouldnt call that tuning. just leave it at that and then wait till you get something quicker

[Sean]

gmc motorsport squeezed 141bhp from a citroen ax gt engine,so cant see why you couldnt get that out your 1! tune a 1.4 and be different i think you could suprise a few people

with high compression, wild cams and twin carbs. nightmare to live with everyday and good luck passing an mot with that set up.

the 1.4 has been turbocharged and supercharged, just depends how far you want to go and how deep your pockets are. personally i'd leave it until i could afford the insurance on either something with a bigger engine or an engine transplant.

[mark_saxo]

well you will have to tell your insurance company of the mods

you'll be surprised how many folk dont. i have declared everything on my car.sack driving about with uninsured mods, thats just silly.

[jamiep]

a guy on another forum said he would sell me an s1 rallye inlet and throttle body with or without an ax gti ecu and loom which he said should push power to the 100bhp mark?

[Wolz]

What year is your Furio as the S1 Rallye inlet will only the old Black top lumps

[Wolz]

Where abouts in South Wales you from mate ? ? ? (off topic i know sorry)

The best increase on a 1.4 would be probably be Cam,filter,full system etc but then its big money for little gains

[jamiep]

T reg mate, Llanelli. It does add up to a lot of cash and still prob wudnt be as quick as a vtr!

[Karl]

....1.4's are grp 5, why not sell and buy a VTR which is a 7
saves alot of tuning? x

[jamiep]

yeh does make sense but i jus read a thread from a guy with a quiksilver who had 87.5bhp from jus a full system and decat and an enclosed filter which he reckoned with the 1.4 box was better acceleration than a vtr?

[max_saxo]

dnt think its going to out accelerate my vtr and mine the 98 bhp one. basically just save and wait for a better engine. i have a vtr and not doin that much to the engine so a 1.4 woudlnt be much point mate

[CampDavid]

The 1.4 is a nice lightweight engine though

[GT3]

What year is your Furio as the S1 Rallye inlet will only the old Black top lumps

Nope will fit early silvertops too with the single plug ecu as the port spacing is the same. It changed when they put the cat in the manifold and the 3 plug ecu.

[jamiep]

Hes askin £90 for the inlet and throttle body which he says should push power to around 100bhp, dont no if this is true or not? plus with a full system, decat and filter should push out some decent power for a 1.4 shouldnt it?

[S34MER]

dnt think its going to out accelerate my vtr and mine the 98 bhp one. basically just save and wait for a better engine. i have a vtr and not doin that much to the engine so a 1.4 woudlnt be much point mate

I agree but if he put a performance the cam in there and got a re-map he would keep up with a VTR to 60 no problem! the furio is 16v remeber!

Hes askin £90 for the inlet and throttle body which he says should push power to around 100bhp, dont no if this is true or not? plus with a full system, decat and filter should push out some decent power for a 1.4 shouldnt it?

dont think you'll see 100bhp to be honest mate! and as Wolz said it will only fit the black top engine, so check before you buy!

[ChrisJ]

Furio's are 8v.

[jamiep]

wish it was 16v mate!

[TU-Tuning]

If it was 16v it would be up with the VTR i would think.

[kornlover30]

Go with a 106xsi head, ecu and inlet manifold (can be picked up easy from scrap yards), four branch, and closed induction, should be pushin 110bhp!

[Ivan106]

What about the 106 1,4 xsi head and 1,3 rallye inlet? It's a very nice sound with the rallye inlet:thumbup:

[williamsvts]

i have headr the westcoast and furio heads aren't worth tuning.
stick an AX gti engine in if you wanna keep it a 1.4??

[kornlover30]

or just stick an xsi lump in, got mine running at 123bhp with a bit of money! lol!

[jamiep]

cheers kornlover the 106xsi head ecu and inlet sounds like a shit hot idea mate, will deffinately be tracking them down in local scrappys!

[reckersno1]

ive got a westy to and im looking at spending 1000 pound on tuning without a conversion.

[jamiep]

kornlover30 do i jus need the ecu or have i gotta get the xsi loom 2 ? cheers

[kornlover30]

kornlover30 do i jus need the ecu or have i gotta get the xsi loom 2 ? cheers
You will need the loom too mate, best thing u can do is buy a crashed one then theres everythin u need!

[jamiep]

ok cheers mate, its mainly the ecu that gives it more power thn?

[HyperLemon]

My westcoast is producing 78bhp @ the wheels (about 95-100bhp fly)
My mods are:

Kent cam PT40 re-grind
Raceland 4-2-1
Open K&N
and some headwork i did myself

i have a S1 inlet to go on yet, just got some problems setting up the idle speed.

[jamiep]

i thought they produce 75bhp as standard? or is that at the flyweel?

[Saxoladlesta]

I thought it was 75bhp same as a Furio

[jamiep]

What have u done then kornlover30 put a 1.4xsi engine in? what mods have u done to produce that power?

[HyperLemon]

the westcoast and furio both produce 75bhp @ the fly, so about 55-60 @ the wheels

[kornlover30]

The 106xsi produces 99.7bhp as standard (the earler models which are pre cat) which is due to the size of the valve heads. Now putting a cam, a ported and polished head, a four branch, re-map, lightened and balanced flywheel will significantly up the bhp and thats just for starters!
P.s im running a mainly standard engine in the saxo, used to have an xsi which i spent serious money on!

[addictedtosax]

dnt think its going to out accelerate my vtr and mine the 98 bhp one.

not sure i agree there bud, the 1.4 engine is lighter than the 1.6 and the if he could get his up to 87bhp im willing to bet that up until maybe 70mph he'd give any 98bhp vtr a run for their money.

My mate has a 1.4 leon and i only have a 1.1. His car has 75bhp and mine has 65 but because of the weight differences i could waste him unless we got to over 70mph.


and to answer the original thread, what i would to do is just chuck a backbox and maybe and enclosed filter on leave it at that, no point tuning a 1.4 to much imo, ask andy(certifiable) how much he has spent on his 1.4 lol

[jamiep]

so basically save up the money im goin 2 spend on an exhaust, manifold, filter etc and spend it on a vts conversion-job done!

[saxobutty]

do they even do an enclosed induction kit for a 1.4 mk1? coz ive never come across one for the westcoasts

[hesslevtr]

bmc are universal so will fit

[T0BY]

Bit off topic, but i go to college in Llanelli:D

as said above, i say save the time and money and get a VTS lump, or just a VTS :) a 1.4 is never really going to be that fast, even if you tune it.

[Josh_Phipps]

Put a match to the petrol tank....