Vtr to Vts/GTi Conversion??

[Billog_VTR]

Having read a few different threads on this and seemingly having too much info, how hard is the above conversion?? Has anyone here done it or seen one that has been done?

Surely it cant be much more than one out one in but there has to be something which makes it makes it more difficult as 1. there french! and 2. I havent really seen any.

[spencer_cammedvts]

piece of piss mate. it is literally straight out and then straight in! as long as both engines are from the same mark car. as they have different types of ecu. i did mine with my dad. did it in a day! was so easy! any more info then just ask!

[CampDavid]

Remember, you need to change the clocks and wiring look as well

[spencer_cammedvts]

i didnt change the clocks and wiring at all and mines fine! its helpfull if you can get your hands on the clocks though as you will have the true mileage of the engine and vts clocks are better too especially if you can get a set of digitals.

[stevenet15]

what gti engine was you gona put in, i know a vtr to vts is easy but what is the gti engine from?

[CampDavid]

106 gti, same as the VTS lump

[spencer_cammedvts]

gti engine has a slightly different wiring loom and will need splicing where it meets the vtr main loom just at the back of the passenger headlight

[stevenet15]

lol i duno why i didnt realise what you were talking abotu with gti as i know there the same lol must have been a blonde moment

[Wolz]

Every one i've done has needed re-wiring as the VTS and and VTR looms are different and i've done 5-6 now

SPENCER6 - So your saying your VTR to VTS conversion was plug and play i've never heard of that before

[Billog_VTR]

wolz what do you mean by re-wiring? are you talking abotu the loom?

[spencer_cammedvts]

Plug In And Play Mate Just As I Say. The Only Thing I Had To Do Was Rig Up A Throttle Cable And That Was It! No Plumbing A Fuel Return And No Re-wiring. Straight Up!

[Wolz]

Yeah the loom has a multiplug by the passenger headlamp where the car loom and engine loom meet and the VTR and VTS are slightly different wires ...its not difficult just time consuming matching the wires if you have electrical knowlegde its easy

I did have wiring diagrams , pictures of plugs numbered and colour for easy wiring but lost them when my hard drive packed up will have to sort them again as they are very handy ...but most wires have codes on them and its a case of match them first and work out the remaining ones after

[Wolz]

Plug In And Play Mate Just As I Say. The Only Thing I Had To Do Was Rig Up A Throttle Cable And That Was It! No Plumbing A Fuel Return And No Re-wiring. Straight Up!

Jesus you were very luck then ..... what year Saxo you got ?

[benvts160]

mk 1 vtr to vts conversions are plug an play ive done over 10 for people now its the mk2 that needs slight wirin, these cars were made to have 16valves in them haha

[Wolz]

Thats handy to know

[Billog_VTR]

so if i can find a mk1 vts engine, loom etc then it literally is a straight swap? Is a day a sensible estimate of time it will take to complete? Do you notice any offer effects other the obvious power change? ie handling, traction?

[Wolz]

You can get the engine done in a couple of hours

[Billog_VTR]

So i'll need engine, ecu, wiring loom, box. Anything else like ignition? or will the Vtr suffice?

[spencer_cammedvts]

you'll need radiator and water pipes but thats about it!

[Marks_saxo_vtr]

i'm thinking about buying a vts lump and putting it into my vtr.
My vts a mk2.
What do i need as the above post says a radiator and water pipes!!
Are these different on vts' than vtrs?
Thanks

[Ryan]

many people have run vts engines off vtr rads.

[Marks_saxo_vtr]

not you again!! lol
i better just take your number and ask you if i need to know anything!

[Marks_saxo_vtr]

So its more or less straight out of vts and straight into vtr?
Whats this bout splicin wires!?

[Ryan]

lol i just read alot of what people have done.

obviously the engine is better cooled off the vts rad due to its larger capacity, but its not a deffinate need.

i know someone who ran a 160bhp vts engine on track and he drove hard! and didnt have probs on a vtr rad.

[Ryan]

So its more or less straight out of vts and straight into vtr?
Whats this bout splicin wires!?

if you have the vts loom from engine block there isnt any splicing off the top of my head, as the engine loom should plug into the cars full loom fine.

as long as both are from same spec

eg, single plug ecu - single plug ecu

although mine is a mixture of a bout 8 car looms lol so has had lots, done.

there probably is minor stuff needed for a normal conversion

[Marks_saxo_vtr]

cheers mate thanks for the info

[Colin]

Im running a VTR rad and it runs too cool! LMAO!

[Ryan]

Im running a VTR rad and it runs too cool! LMAO!

lol proof that the vts rad is not a necesity! spelling can get to fuck ive just got back from training and am shattered.

col you tried changing the thermostat to one off a vts?

[beardy]

buy a vts loom get ecu unlocked and your away,

aint hard.