another cam question

[burgin2011]

reson im asking is because i dont want to spend aload of money on a cam if it wont make any difference what so ever my car is a 1998 vtr 90bhp if asked this bloke info but dosent really help me tbh im looking at this cam to buy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180969071766?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch% 2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D180969071766%26_rdc %3D1
What sort of bhp gains will i be looking at without a map and then with a map i will buy if its a decnet cam for good gains i want a cam that runs lumpy on idol when fitted and better when mapped basically i want a cam with decent noticable gains with or without a map i no the ph3 is a good cam for the vtr but just want to no if this will just be as good basically any info i can get on a cam that will good for my vtr but really intrest in this cam thanks any replys i will be greatfull

[Bobo0907]

That cam wont fit your engine. Its for heads with the larger bearings

[burgin2011]

Thanks mate do you no were i can get a ph3 cam ive heard there good for vtrs not sure were to look thanks

[burgin2011]

Anybody?

[Gandi699]

the black top bearing size is different to xsi/rallye so that advert is misleading

[Bobo0907]

the black top bearing size is different to xsi/rallye so that advert is misleading

Aye I just skim read it and seen fits rallye xsi and vtr. Definatley misleading!

Thanks mate do you no were i can get a ph3 cam ive heard there good for vtrs not sure were to look thanks

kamracing website. Very good website for saxo/106 parts.

[burgin2011]

Cheers guys also he refered me to this cam http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180969070184?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 he said this one will fit but it just seems the same

[Bobo0907]

Thats the same cam as in your original post?!

[Gandi699]

Same misleading bearing size stuff too. Also only 9.9mm lift? I'm sure the rallye J cam is 10.1 might be wrong there though

[Bobo0907]

Same misleading bearing size stuff too. Also only 9.9mm lift? I'm sure the rallye J cam is 10.1 might be wrong there though

Aye, dont know why it says it fits rallye/xsi and vtr? The bearing diameter on the ad is for the rallye/xsi heads. Also the catcams 645 has above 11mm of lift IIRC, so I dont think the rallye cam is 10mm.


For the OP you need a cam like this:

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/citroen-saxo/saxo-engine/camshafts/citroen-saxo-1-4-1-6-vtr-non-roller-rocker-black-top-cat-cams-4901102-fast-road-camshaft-set.html

They dont seem to stock the newmans ph3 anymore.