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j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 11:23
Hi, recently bought a throttle body conversion and was just wondering is there a step by step guide of installing them. It's for a 2000 mk2 vts! It's got cbr900 carbs, custom inlet mani, low fuel pressure reg and pump throttle mount! Thanks in advance :)

Bedford126
12th November 2012, 12:06
Throttle body conversion but it's got carbs? You do realise that the 2 are completely different don't ya mate?

Carbs you need something to give a spark such as a ax gt dizzy. As with tb's you need some sort of management.

AlexB
12th November 2012, 12:12
vts you cant fit the 8v dizzy setup...

you will need some form of management a predator is a good cheap plug and play unit to use

fitting isnt hard
remove inlet manifold
bolt on inlet

making fuel pipes and setting up is the difficult

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 13:51
Oh right. it has cbr900 carbs. So how do I set it all up then? :/ can I run on the normal ecu? My vts has been cammed and remapped if that makes any difference? Cheers

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 13:55
The bloke I brought it off said I could run on my standard ecu and would go well if its been cammed and remapped! Help please lol. Think it might be more hassle than its worth? Cheers :/

AlexB
12th November 2012, 14:09
ive only ever seem talks of people saying you can do that
never seen it done the stock ecu isnt ideal for running carbs at all

the remap will make no difference at all
what you need is something like an Omex 200 ignition only ecu and a custom loom then get it all set up by someone who knows what there doing

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 14:15
Ok. Why isn't it ideal for running carbs mate? Just looked and that omex ecu I like £350! What do you mean by a custom loom mate?

mlawlan69
12th November 2012, 14:27
uh oh.

you've been had!!

Beaniemoo
12th November 2012, 14:30
I'm afraid that the job you're taking on here is a pretty big one and a step beyond the previous bolt on type modifcations. First thing is we need to be 100% sure whether you have bike carbs or bike bodies and you don't sound like you're 100% convinced you know. It might be worth posting pics so we can help.
Before you start pulling the car apart it's well worth doing a lot of research (why you put this thread up i assume).
If it turns out you have bike carbs you will need to radically lower the fuel pressure to just a couple of psi from about 70! This can be done by getting rid of the citroen fuel pump and fitting either a bike or carb specific pump.After that....

There's sooo much more to this job than bolt on and drive away so we definately need to identify what you have, what you know and how much time/money you're willing to spend

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 14:33
Bollock's! How do I upload pics? :@

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 14:38
I'm just wondering would this sound nice and give a good bho increase?
Here's the description!


106 SAXO BIKE CARBS WITH BOGGBROTHER INLET MANIFOLD

HEAR WE HAVE MY BIKE CARB CONVERTION FOR ENEY TU5J4 AND tu5jp4s engien

thay are cbr900 carbs with a custom inlet manifold made buy boggbrothers

the carbs wher jetted at the saim time

the plastick covers on the carbs have been

wots included : cbr 900 carbs jetted buy boggbrothers,

boggbrothers inlet manifold,

low preshur fuel pump

and fuel preshur reg

enay questions please ask

look at my other listing for dta ecu to run theis carbs

CASH ON COLLECTION PREFORD BUT WILL POST AT EXPENCE

HAPPY BIDDING

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Sophia_Bush
12th November 2012, 15:53
100% carbs remember seeing these on ebay not long back

Baz
12th November 2012, 16:02
Wouldn't have bought something like that from someone who can't spell or be bothered to spell check an advert

KamRacing
12th November 2012, 16:02
Its worrying when people can only type phonetically. What happened in school in the last 10 years?

As for the conversion. Its more a bolt in job than throttlebodies as much of the engine wiring is going to be redundant, but you have the low pressure pump included so its certainly a case of getting this fitted by someone who knows what they are doing.
If the carbs are fueling correctly that will be a big bonus..

AlexB
12th November 2012, 16:11
Ok. Why isn't it ideal for running carbs mate? Just looked and that omex ecu I like £350! What do you mean by a custom loom mate?

if you go for a new ecu the wiring loom on the engine will need modifying to accept it

if you do go carbs as it these are then you need to definatly go new ecu

see where he says about a DTA in the listing
thats the ecu he ran on them


also say goodbye to passing emissions tests on MOTs

KamRacing
12th November 2012, 16:17
true. The issue you have is you cannot mount a distributor to the engine as it was never designed to allow this so its a simple task of making an old school engine. You need an ecu to control the ignition side of things despite using the carbs to control fueling.

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 16:32
Right so is it more hassle than its worth? Because I will demand my money back because he said it will just bolt on and get a remap and it will run? Cheers people

j-9-p-1-g
12th November 2012, 18:49
Can any one help me out please? Is it worth doing or not?

KamRacing
12th November 2012, 18:57
Personally i don't rate the design of the kits. Try and get your money back or sell it on, and save for a set of throttlebodies. At least these can use the standard ecu or a standalone.

If you want to use them then look at a DTA like the old owner used. I don't understand why he did not sell as a complete kit TBH.

Kev

andybvtr
12th November 2012, 19:09
sounds like youve been had to me dude but this is a very friendly forum full of
members willing to help. Although if it was me i would definatly try and make a claim for your money back but at the same time it wasnt the best idea purchasing what you have with little knowledge. Hope you manage to get this sorted fella

mlawlan69
12th November 2012, 19:34
I'm just wondering would this sound nice and give a good bho increase?
Here's the description!


106 SAXO BIKE CARBS WITH BOGGBROTHER INLET MANIFOLD

HEAR WE HAVE MY BIKE CARB CONVERTION FOR ENEY TU5J4 AND tu5jp4s engien

thay are cbr900 carbs with a custom inlet manifold made buy boggbrothers

the carbs wher jetted at the saim time

the plastick covers on the carbs have been

wots included : cbr 900 carbs jetted buy boggbrothers,

boggbrothers inlet manifold,

low preshur fuel pump

and fuel preshur reg

enay questions please ask

look at my other listing for dta ecu to run theis carbs

CASH ON COLLECTION PREFORD BUT WILL POST AT EXPENCE

HAPPY BIDDING

Posted with eBay Mobile

he unclearly states here you need the dta to run them. .

unlucky fella :(

andybvtr
12th November 2012, 19:38
he clearly does 4th line from the bottom.lol

j-9-p-1-g
14th November 2012, 23:33
i asked him can i run on my chipped ecu and he said yes you can. that's the only reason i bought them :/ do i need a dta ecu to run it or not? cheers in advance jp

AlexB
15th November 2012, 11:34
yes you WILL need some form of aftermarket ecu
be it DTA predator omex or KMS the stock ecu wont work

gazza808
15th November 2012, 11:52
Apparently Wayne at chip wizards can map the standard ecu to do anything pretty much, but pointless in my opinion I'd rather have an ecu I can take to my next car lol.

AlexB
15th November 2012, 17:04
theres a huge discussion on using the stock ecu somewere
wayne can aparently but never actually seen it anywere apparenty he uses limp mode to do it and general opinion was it wasnt that great

id rather just go for an ecu designed to run a setup like that