saxo vtr 0-60???

[jamie281093]

can anyone give me a rough idea of how quickly a single plug vtr on a 1.1 box with a backbox and cone filter mounted in front of rad (not that they would really make a difference) would go form 0-60? its done 113k, i know it depends on the driver and stuff, just a rough figure please :)

[Ryan]

Depends if you make 60 in second.

[jamie281093]

no, it does something around 55 in 2nd (1.1 gearbox)

[chinkostu]

standard is 10 seconds yea? so about 9.5/9? pushing between 8 and 9 on a mk2

[m4tt274]

probably 9 or 10. the gear change to third will add a second.

[saxova]

on paper it says

mk1 VTR - 9.9 secs

mk2 VTR 9.1 secs

So yeah, around 9 secs. :y:

[Mochachino]

quite a while. Forgot how slow VTRs are going off those times^

[m4tt274]

they produce peak power (relatively speaking) fairly low in the rpm and peak torque at like 3000 so they feel grunty to drive, hence why people say they are quick! outright, they are only a nudge on most other normal cars about.

i would be interested to know if the 1.1 box made a worthwhile gain on a VTR.

[Ross]

they produce peak power (relatively speaking) fairly low in the rpm and peak torque at like 3000 so they feel grunty to drive, hence why people say they are quick! outright, they are only a nudge on most other normal cars about.

i would be interested to know if the 1.1 box made a worthwhile gain on a VTR.

It would depend how you define gain I guess. Acceleration? Better off with a s1 1.4 box aren't you? (memory is shite today - forgive me if I'm wrong there!) It's not gonna give you 10bhp like a max power sticker would though.

[Mochachino]

It would depend how you define gain I guess. Acceleration? Better off with a s1 1.4 box aren't you? (memory is shite today - forgive me if I'm wrong there!) It's not gonna give you 10bhp like a max power sticker would though.

S1 Rallye Box*

or

1.4 XSI box

[AlexB]

im sure mine does more like 5.8 :S

and remember 60 on your clocks isn 60 road speed

[Ross]

S1 Rallye Box*

or

1.4 XSI box

Ta! knew it was something like that :p MA's are for queers anyway ;)

[mlawlan69]

are you STILL not beating your mates 1.4?!

[jamie281093]

are you STILL not beating your mates 1.4?!

yeah up to 90 ish, after 90 mines crap with the box thou as its revving its nuts off :P

[chinkostu]

yeah up to 90 ish, after 90 mines crap with the box thou as its revving its nuts off :P

mine pulled ok after 90, its the 100-120 that takes time!

[jamie281093]

mine pulled ok after 90, its the 100-120 that takes time!

mine is gutless after 90, think its time for a new engine sooner or later if im honest, tbf i havn't exactly treated it well, giving it shit from cold and spinnin it up all the time in town, probably killed it :(

[Ryan]

giving it shit from cold and spinnin it up all the time in town, probably killed it :(

Hero :homme:

[jamie281093]

Hero :homme:

its my first car, what do u expect :A:

[Ryan]

its my first car, what do u expect :A:

First car? .....









.... A retard is still retarded.

[jamie281093]

First car? .....









.... A retard is still retarded.

whats that supposed to mean...

[christoph]

whats that supposed to mean...

Doesn't make any difference its your first car. No excuse to drive like a tool.

[jamie281093]

so your telling me u never have fun on the road...?

[rey]

Only retards have "fun" when the engine is cold..

[christoph]

so your telling me u never have fun on the road...?

There's a time and place and a place isn't there. In the middle of town is NOT the right place.

Plus treating your car like crap and telling people on a "car forum" was a bad move too lol

[devilsadvocate]

mine is gutless after 90, think its time for a new engine sooner or later if im honest, tbf i havn't exactly treated it well, giving it shit from cold and spinnin it up all the time in town, probably killed it :(

Feel sorry for the poor person who buys that car after you....

[josh11490]

Lol! My vtr is my first car and I don't rag it from cold haha.

Doesn't matter if its your first car or your 20th, it's common sense to let it warm up, I would rather wait 15-20 minutes for the engine to be nice and warm before I boot it than jump strait into it doing 5k revs everywhere lol

[Gandi699]

hilarious that a VTR on a 1.1 box cant beat a 1.4

[Prickle]

so your telling me u never have fun on the road...?

yer not in the town though mate.I also let the engine get warm first before going past 3k.

This is why your engine is ruined, explains all the other threads you made.

Mechanical sympathy. You dont have it.

[Ross]

hilarious that a VTR on a 1.1 box cant beat a 1.4

as much as this will hurt the feelings of vtr owners, a LOT of cars shit on vtr's :p They're pretty slow frankly. Of course, they're the fastest thing ever (y0) when you're 18 :D

[VECTRASRI]

as much as this will hurt the feelings of vtr owners, a LOT of cars shit on vtr's :p They're pretty slow frankly. Of course, they're the fastest thing ever (y0) when you're 18 :D

No way I can get to sixty in sub 6 seconds. It's almost as fast as a micra

[Gandi699]

Most standard base model saloons and hatches these days will crap on a standard VTR

[jamie281093]

Most standard base model saloons and hatches these days will crap on a standard VTR

got that right, i used to really struggle to keep up with my bosses basic 318 on the back roads home from work everyday, got left behind once or twice, this was when my engine was fully functioning mind.

Feel sorry for the poor person who buys that car after you....

Thats why a new engine is going in once christmas is out the way, and the dreaded car tax on new years :(
..which will be more cared for, was going to do a vts conversion but cant see myself having the money to do that

[m4tt274]

you should be able to keep up with a 318, he was obviously going pretty hard!!

[jamie281093]

you should be able to keep up with a 318, he was obviously going pretty hard!!

he was, he grew up on them roads aswell, most of the time he didnt get very far infront, i could just about stick with him, we never managed to get over about 80 on them roads though, as i dare say on an open road the vtr wouldnt have had much chance lol

[Gandi699]

I left a 318 in metro gti without any problems but then again a metro gti is faster than a standard vtr as I proved afterwards

[jamie281093]

explains a lot if its faster than a vtr :P lol

[Ross]

I left a 318 in metro gti without any problems but then again a metro gti is faster than a standard vtr as I proved afterwards

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-YozW-w6nS7UMOtovlGLLz0SXQRpYklIyQz0SIewz4Q0cA-OfRj2vhXBAxQ

[AlexB]

but but i have video proof of me being faster than a silvia on.track in a vtr

a 318 would be mince meat!

[jamie281093]

but but i have video proof of me being faster than a silvia on.track in a vtr

a 318 would be mince meat!

cant be a standard vtr..was it the 98bhp one or..

[AlexB]

98 hp vtr
raceland mani and a pugsport
16v airbox fitted

[AlexB]

98 hp vtr
raceland mani and a pugsport
16v airbox fitted

[jamie281093]

98 hp vtr
raceland mani and a pugsport
16v airbox fitted

better than what at the time was my standard 90bhp vtr then lol
why a 16v air box thou, whats this do?

[AlexB]

just a bit of a better design imo than the vtr one and cheaper than an induction kit as it was free

[jamie281093]

just a bit of a better design imo than the vtr one and cheaper than an induction kit as it was free

with a k&n panel filter is it yeah?

[Old_School_Saxo]

It all depends on what tyres suspension and wheels your using and when your changing gear (changing it to soon or to late makes a massive diffrence ive killed cars just because thay redline theres and i change just before peak power drops off) power comes into it last.

But really you have got 0 mods and you have just fitted a shorter ratio gear box and to be frank the vts gearbox is wrong even for the vts! second gear is to tall for it but it was designed to give the best 0-60 time nothing more and what you have done is lowered your top speed and made your 0-60 worse than before so there for if you have stock everything id say more like 10 seconds to 60mph....

Also you cant go off your speedo as theres not one car that has a correct speedo infact every speedo is wrong after 70mph and most are off by atlest 5mph between 30mph to 60mph already....

[jamie281093]

tbh, i like the feel of the 1.1 box, with the short ratios, but i cant imagine it would do my 0-60 time any good as changing to 3rd is required. and as for cruising at 70mph or so it is so fucking annoying!! :wall:

which gearbox would be best in your opinion, as when i get a better vtr lump early next year i might try source a gearbox if i can afford to aswell, maybe a normal, vtr box?

[saxova]

VTR boxes for the bin or boost. They're so boring with standard N/A power..

1.1 / vts box / 1.4 xsi for B-road fun.

XSI boxes don't pop up very often and when they do they are priced quite high. That's why 1.1 boxes / VTS boxes are mostly used.

[AlexB]

with a k&n panel filter is it yeah?

VTR boxes for the bin or boost. They're so boring with standard N/A power..

ive got a k&n in mine yea and a good cold air feed setup on it
dead easy to do tbh wether it actually does anything ermmmm....

1.1 / vts box / 1.4 xsi for B-road fun.

XSI boxes don't pop up very often and when they do they are priced quite high. That's why 1.1 boxes / VTS boxes are mostly used.


gotta love an xsi box but on a vtr they are just too short if your doing any sort of dual carrigeway/motorway with the 6k limiter

s2 rallye is where its at for 8vs imo

[jamie281093]

what is the vts box like? between the 1.1 & vts is it? i seen a post on here ages ago where someone put up all of the ratios of different boxes, cant find it anymore though, anyone else seen it/know where it is, or a link to the differences? :)

[saxova]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125615

bookmarked ftw :y:

[m4tt274]

that gearbox thread is a top one!! excellent.

[Gandi699]

gotta love an xsi box but on a vtr they are just too short if your doing any sort of dual carrigeway/motorway with the 6k limiter

s2 rallye is where its at for 8vs imo

Just make sure you dont fit an s1 rallye, on a road going VTR it'd be a nightmare but good fun for sprints or similar