Pre Workout Supplements

[darrenmcc]

I was taking Jack3d for a fair while, tryin to stick to the 2 on, 2 off etc when possible, although found after a year or so, I was becoming pretty immune to it, so was looking about and decided to try Animal Pump, started taking it on monday this week and must say, it feels pretty good and like Jack3d used to be for me, after a workout, sometimes I wanna keep goin and cant sit still for 5mins!

anyone got anything else theyve used?

[McGuire86]

MusclePharm - Assault

[matt_vtr_15a]

I'm i'm using assault to.... does the job for me.. decent prices online to...

[hillyberry2009]

I'm old school I have 2 scoops of coffee and 3 sugars half hour before I go gym and it works.

[OMGASAXO]

I find Jack3d really good when it kicks in. and n.o. explode is also good

[Yamaha318]

Met R-X Amped, I buy it in the small satchets for next to nothing and works alright

[jones91]

I'm old school I have 2 scoops of coffee and 3 sugars half hour before I go gym and it works.
This, I just shovel a load of coffee high in sugar down me if I have time and it seems to work

[MrHouston]

MusclePharm - Assault

I'm i'm using assault to.... does the job for me.. decent prices online to...

This :fcuk:

[Giraffe]

I'm old school I have 2 scoops of coffee and 3 sugars half hour before I go gym and it works.

This, I just shovel a load of coffee high in sugar down me if I have time and it seems to work

This, although I just have a normal coffee with some peanut butter on toast about half an hour before I go to the gym... Might ramp that up to 2 coffees with sugar and add some jam with the peanut butter as well then!

[hillyberry2009]

2 spoons of coffee in 1 mug.

[Giraffe]

2 spoons of coffee in 1 mug.

Aye, that's what I meant. Wouldn't drink 2 mugs of coffee, would be pissing like a fountain!

[hillyberry2009]

Lol Yeh you would kid.

[arsenal_69r]

Cellucor c4 extreme and a spoon of Nutella

[James93]

I find Jack3d really good when it kicks in. and n.o. explode is also good


Jack3d has been pulled from my gym and many others after proving some mental heath problems, that bird who collapsed in the marathon was using Jack3d supplements for her training and it showed that under certain heartrates etc it shut her body down, google it! :n:

[OMGASAXO]

Jack3d has been pulled from my gym and many others after proving some mental heath problems, that bird who collapsed in the marathon was using Jack3d supplements for her training and it showed that under certain heartrates etc it shut her body down, google it! :n:

Interesting, I very rarely use it anyway, or anything because I feel They cant be too good for you. Even if I'm wrong I still have this thing in the back of my mind saying don't use them..

[nicole_]

Musclepharm assault for me too, absolutely love the stuff.
Have to take less than the recommended measure they give though or my body's to messed up for a decent workout :p

[matt_vtr_15a]

Jack3d has been pulled from my gym and many others after proving some mental heath problems, that bird who collapsed in the marathon was using Jack3d supplements for her training and it showed that under certain heartrates etc it shut her body down, google it! :n:

The jack3d stuff got pulled ages ago mainly beause of the DMAA.... so not sure if you are going on about this because it was in the news recently but it's not been pulled from gyms recently... :/

Most supp shops and gyms I've been have the re-released version jack3d Micro... which is a whole new supp.... Old news

[McGuire86]

Always said Jack3d was full of shit. Just an expensive redbull. MP Assault is the best I've had and everyone I've reccommended it to feels the same

[vtr91]

MP assult is a highly recommended one atm,
although warrior blaze is primarily a fat burner, i found the old stuff brilliaant as a pre-workout aswell, the new stuff isnt the same tho :(
MP assult, get on it!

[James93]

The jack3d stuff got pulled ages ago mainly beause of the DMAA.... so not sure if you are going on about this because it was in the news recently but it's not been pulled from gyms recently... :/

Most supp shops and gyms I've been have the re-released version jack3d Micro... which is a whole new supp.... Old news

May be old news but was new to me, my Gym was selling all their Jack3d stuff on the cheap then went the next day and everything had vanished, asked why and he told me the reasoning behind it, so bit naughty they was selling it off cheap! but news gets to people at different times! :y:

[matt_vtr_15a]

May be old news but was new to me, my Gym was selling all their Jack3d stuff on the cheap then went the next day and everything had vanished, asked why and he told me the reasoning behind it, so bit naughty they was selling it off cheap! but news gets to people at different times! :y:

I'm genuinely jelous wish i could of got some of the stuff with dmaa in it... not keen myself i'm with musclepharm as said above but i know loads of people that swore by jack3d and would pay goodmoney for the original stuff..

I mixed a warrior blaze with musclepharm the other day and it ruined my workout.. on top of other supps i'm taking it gave m that much of a pump after 2 sets i couldnt wven move my arms properly without having an inceeased rest!

I now just use warrior blaze for cardio sessions and mp assault for select weight sessiona.. i tend to do 2 on 2 off to try and prevent building too muxh of tolerance to it..

[jones91]

Always said Jack3d was full of shit

After trying it for the first time tonight I have to completely agree with you, got given it for free by a mate after he didn't like it, and for the effect it give me I might as well of had 6 pints of fosters and a sleeping tablet..... made me feel drowsy if anything and lose concentration

Il stay on it for a bit and post back if I change my mind about it, but not impressed so far :n:

[MrHouston]

Got about 2 days worth of Assault left, dont know wether to try something new. But as the saying goes, if it's not broken why fix it? Hmmm

[Gashman]

No explode 2.0 or Juggernaut Hp for me

[Danno666]

As others, MP assault for me.

[Gashman]

Think I'm gonna give assault a go after juggernaut hp

What are muscle pumps like? Is it a good clean energy?

[Danno666]

Think I'm gonna give assault a go after juggernaut hp

What are muscle pumps like? Is it a good clean energy?
Pumps are pretty good, don't take too much or you'll end up with some serious power sh 1ts

[Gashman]

Gotta say juggernaut Hp is amazing, sessions getting better and better each time. Can't recommend it enough. Try it people

[darrenmcc]

that's my Jack3d finished, thinkin of tryin juggernaut, any places where I can get it cheap enough? be even better it they deliver to ROI
thanks

[Gashman]

Try bodybuilding.com or even eBay mate. Definitely worth a go. Will e sticki g with it for definite

[McGuire86]

Try bodybuilding.com or even eBay mate. Definitely worth a go. Will e sticki g with it for definite

Shipping from bodybuilding.com is expensive as it's a USA based company. They have a UK online store but it's still being shipped from the US, so delivery time takes even longer aswell.

[darrenmcc]

so finished jack3d and couldn't get juggernaut unless I waited about 2 weeks for it, as the places that had it, wanted nearly double what other places where sellin it for, anyways, bought Assault, and as I always take Animal pump minus the red pill and take pws, I felt so much more intense this morning than on jack3d. I got a lot more pump aswell, and felt like doing more reps than I was used to, even had to drag myself out the gym, didn't wanna leave. managed to get it for a good price aswell and although the scoops are bigger than jack3d, its a much bigger tub.

defintly worth a try!

[Yates]

I've just ordered assault see what it's like never used pre work out

[McGuire86]

I've just ordered assault see what it's like never used pre work out

It's awesome you wont regret it. I would only use half a scoop for the first week or first 3 days though otherwise you wont sleep lol.

Where did you get yours from, ebay ?

[Gashman]

I'm gonna try assault once I've run out of juggernaut Hp I think.

[Yates]

It's awesome you wont regret it. I would only use half a scoop for the first week or first 3 days though otherwise you wont sleep lol.

Where did you get yours from, ebay ?

Amazon mate

[matt_vtr_15a]

Got a free sample of berry lemonade flavour craze which I used this morning.

Genuinely quite impressed with it if i'm honest, might buy some and cycle between assault and this for a little while as I did get a bit more pump and vascularity than i have been getting from assault recently.

Drive was insane, I ended up being late for work as I just wanted to keep going. Only wanted to train legs, decided I'd do abs afterwards and even though I struggled to get back to my feet I did 35mins on the bike...

It's up there imo.

[Gashman]

Got a sample of assault from bodypower, tried it tonight seems a great pre workout I will definitely be picking up a pot when I run out of juggernaut hp

[matt_vtr_15a]

Using 1.m..r , white flood and craze at the moment...

craze wipes the floor with assault for me... pump and vascularity is similar but focus is hard to describe, it gives you tunnel vision and makes me feel motivationally high almost. Its the best pre i have used and i've got thru a few!

Preworkouts affect people differently though. Some people hate assault and some love it. .. i loved the stuff but craze does much more for me!

[Gashman]

I've got a load of samples to work through, including white flood and 1.m.r.

I also have a pot of craze, find I get no real pump but unrivalled focus!! So use it for leg days lol

How you getting on with vengeance ?

[b0t13]

craze seems to be the big thing atm, and assault as an overall PWO

[boony]

I've just tried tried MP assault for the first time and for me personally it pisses all over jak3d .

[McGuire86]

I've stopped taking pre-workouts all together now, upsets my stomach abit and personally believe it's mostly in the mind. If you take something for too long you become dependent on it, just physiological bullshit most of the time.

[matt_vtr_15a]

I've stopped taking pre-workouts all together now, upsets my stomach abit and personally believe it's mostly in the mind. If you take something for too long you become dependent on it, just physiological bullshit most of the time.

Try a sample of craze.. that shit is effective as fuarkk...

Ditched mp forvthat as it wore off... i cycle now only use on chest and leg days

[Gashman]

Juggernaut Hp or craze for me at the moment, next one for me will be assault,

I found upset stomach a side of pre workouts containing to many fillers, the original no xplode being the perfect example. I believe magnesium was the one in no xplode which caused it

[McGuire86]

Try a sample of craze.. that shit is effective as fuarkk...

Ditched mp forvthat as it wore off... i cycle now only use on chest and leg days

Nah going to leave them out for a good 6 months or so, alot of people don't even use it, it's mainly hype alot of the time.

Rather spend less on supps now and more on quality food as meat prices are going up again.

[b0t13]

and them 'new' suppliments your using lol ;)

[Gashman]

Oh yeah I am on new ones lol some would say naughty ones but I fuckkn love um

[Carlvtr88]

Just ordered some samples of Pulse v4. I've tried it before and it worked well. But I thought i'd try a few samples before spending 20 quid on it.

Coffee I've been using mostly up until now.

[LWS_71]

Most people on the forum just seem take roids lol, sorry "pro-hormones".

No pre-workouts for me as I work out at about 8pm so would be buzzing all night! Heard good reviews about platinum PRE though.

[L33h]

Most people on the forum just seem take roids lol, sorry "pro-hormones".

No pre-workouts for me as I work out at about 8pm so would be buzzing all night! Heard good reviews about platinum PRE though.

o0o0o a bit of a bitch bite there :P

Also i just use impact whey from myprotein.com with some added oats for carbs

[LWS_71]

o0o0o a bit of a bitch bite there :P

Also i just use impact whey from myprotein.com with some added oats for carbs

Ah you got me, jealous of your awesome gainz brah.

Just seems to be an influx of pro-hormone users on here lately. I have nothing against that, if its what you want to do with your body :drink:

[Carlvtr88]

I don't touch none of that shit myself. I had a mate who was normal size one week then blew up like a balloon in a month. When he stopped taking them he shrunk again. I don't know why anyone would.

[L33h]

I don't touch none of that shit myself. I had a mate who was normal size one week then blew up like a balloon in a month. When he stopped taking them he shrunk again. I don't know why anyone would.

cos when he stopped his testosterone went all to fuck and he lost all the muscle. thats why u need to take test boosters afterwards to keep it all.

[McGuire86]

cos when he stopped his testosterone went all to fuck and he lost all the muscle. thats why u need to take test boosters afterwards to keep it all.

Lol no you don't, just a solid diet and training reigime along with a perfect post cycle therapy to get everything working as it did before.

Of course you're bound to lose some gains because your body cannot produce the amount of test whilst on AAS cycle, but you wont lose alot if you know what you're doing.

Guy in question sounds like he knew fuck all and as he ' blew up like a balloon' my guess is he just took a load of dbol on it's own which would of been pretty pointless.

[matt_vtr_15a]

As said by mcguire... worryingly he knows a lot more about AAS than people currently on cycles and he is natty lol...

There are a lot of lads around me that have run cycles of dbol retaining shit loads of water and balloning, it's so obvious in some casee it's laughable and as a sidenote it's not the muscle they re losing just the water retention and the majority of muscle they may have gained due to lack of pct and shit diet.

Out of about 8 lads that i have seen take d-bol only one has made good gains and that was because he trained hard and ate right and followed a suitable pct.

The other lds just pretty much ate shit snd trained like shit and cause the scales said they had gained weight they thought they had gained muscle, when infact it was water weight and bloat.. which was gone a few weeks after cycle.



The majority run no pct whatsoever, so may as well throw there money down the drain as they think its a waste of money when it is the most important aspect of any cycle.

Personally not a fan of 'wet' compounds... i gained a stone in water retention alone and it just felt uncomfortable... much prefer 'dry' compounds.

Also it's misleading to say 'run testboosters' post cycle. If you solely rn test boosters your estrogen levels would rocket to as your bodies hormones are fucked which could lead to the dreaded gyno.

(Serm + natural test booster pct )

AI on cycle to keep estrogen levels in check if need be but i have had no need to run an ai on cycle yet, but always handy to have on hand as well as your choice of serm for pct before you even start cycle.

I'd only run AI on cycle if i had any sides as estrogen is important for gains also but levels need to be kept in check.

Soo many people let issues arise and then they only become concerned about pct which they never took the time to research beforehand.

Not digging at anyone here, it's just a very common scenario especially around where i live and certain friends.. it does worry me to be honest.

Its seen as quick fix but unless you are willing to run the cycle, pct, diet and training to a sufficient standard you're just gonna waste your money...

Bodybuilding should be a hobby, lifestyle and passion for a significnt amount of time before becoming assisted... and thats if you wish to go that route, you can go very far naturally if you have good genetics and knowledge. Infact you can go further than a lot that are assisted.

I hold my hands up and admit i probbly should of waited until i was say 25+ before considering a cycle as i could of developed further beforehand.

[McGuire86]

You would have to take an AI inhibitor in high dosages to reduce estrogen levels to have negative effects on the steroid mate. I read adex at 0.5mg every other day will only lower the levels by about 30% (iirc) anyway, which would be enough to reduce the nasty side effects of estrogen but still be fine for making gains :y:

[L33h]

that was basically what i was trying to say. Ive done alot of research into pro hormones the last few weeks and intend to do alot more before i start a proper cycle. I wouldnt be stupid enough to start taking something i know nothing about

[McGuire86]

Don't know what you've been reading then if you think you need to stay on test boosters after being on steroids :S

[L33h]

ive heard when you stop taking them your testosterone drops really low and you start producing more estrogen so you need to take boosters to help get your test levels back to normal

[McGuire86]

ive heard when you stop taking them your testosterone drops really low and you start producing more estrogen so you need to take boosters to help get your test levels back to normal

That's the whole point of post cycle therapy, to get your body start producing testosterone naturally as it did before.. Estrogen levels will be highest during cycle, not after.

[L33h]

That's the whole point of post cycle therapy, to get your body start producing testosterone naturally as it did before.. Estrogen levels will be highest during cycle, not after.

i thought they were higher during the cycle but highest afterwards. my bad. This is why im still researching

[Carlvtr88]

Lol no you don't, just a solid diet and training reigime along with a perfect post cycle therapy to get everything working as it did before.

Of course you're bound to lose some gains because your body cannot produce the amount of test whilst on AAS cycle, but you wont lose alot if you know what you're doing.

Guy in question sounds like he knew fuck all and as he ' blew up like a balloon' my guess is he just took a load of dbol on it's own which would of been pretty pointless.

Well, he said he trained a lot, but one minute he was normal size... not big at all really. Then he turned into the hulk in a month.

We went out for a few drinks and when he got out his car ( first time seeing him after starting the roids ) I was like WTF !

Then he had a bad turn on them. Clashed with cough medicine i think ( or somet ) and passed out. Completely stopped now and doesn't look as big at all.

[McGuire86]

Sounds like water weight from dianabol. No way would you put on a huge size difference of lean mass in just four weeks with any gear

[Carlvtr88]

Sounds like water weight from dianabol. No way would you put on a huge size difference of lean mass in just four weeks with any gear

Well I think your probably right tbh. He looked big but not solid big, if you know what i mean.

In fact, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he looked a bit ridiculous.

Even my gf was like, " has he been on the juice " and she knows nothing about it ? LOL.

[Gashman]

PCT is the most important part of any cycle.

Explained really well by Matt and McGuire

[Saxoladlesta]

I've just bought some musclepharm assault (really wanted craze but can't risk it with my job until they clear up whether its got amphet in it or not) took just under half a scoop 20mins before I did insanity felt nothing at all. Finished insanity (an hour since I took the drink) and felt it kick in-bit late now I'm done though. I'm wondering whether it works best with weights?

[McGuire86]

Works with everything. Maybe you're just a non responder

[Saxoladlesta]

Well I thought that but possibly it may take a little longer to kick in I'm thinking as I took it at 14:15 and it started working around half hour ago

[McGuire86]

Takes no longer than 20-30 mins

[lwigmore]

I've started musclepharm assault, first day I took it, buzzed straight away and smashed out the workout.

[b0t13]

MP assault ive found to be the best PWO,

i have a full serving and notice the difference, it wakes me up but not stimmed and i can push a few more reps out easier

ive just got the grape flavour and its not too bad tbh...

[Yates]

Haven't used any as been off work, haven't felt like I can't be arsed ans need a kick