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robster247
15th February 2013, 11:19
Okay I'm half way through rebuilding my 2000 vts engine as a conversion I'm doing, the engine was in my old vts until I broke it for parts. It was completely standard and compared to my brothers 106 gti with a bmc, supersprint mani and pugsport it would eat it alive.

So the question I've been asking myself is if its cammed, I've got the cams in front of me but they haven't got markings on either end of the exhaust or the inlet. But they do have some numbers on the shafts between the lobes

Inlet its got; 41 6 9 66
Exhaust its got; 41 6 9 66

I don't know much about cam shafts but I've done some research and still can't find anything. Any help would be great

Ross
15th February 2013, 11:27
Those are standard cams.

robster247
15th February 2013, 11:30
Thanks ross, its on 112500 miles but still goes very well I'm surprised haha

Ross
15th February 2013, 11:34
your brothers gti must be fucked though tbh :D

robster247
15th February 2013, 11:40
It hasn't as many miles on as my engine, had 125mph in 5th and it was on the limiter.

No doubt I'll be getting the job of rebuilding that one next as something isn't right.

rich112
15th February 2013, 11:53
Every vts is cammed.

wadoryu
15th February 2013, 12:59
Every vts has cams, it's just a shame most are cams that come with the car as standard. Because race car y0

robster247
15th February 2013, 13:07
Haha yeah its rare that a vts is actualy cammed, the seller said it was standard it was just a hunch I had but never mind

burgin2011
15th February 2013, 14:12
the gti has a higher ratio box than the vts , thats why the S is abit quicker wouldent eat it alive thothe gti is suppost to be 1second slower on paper

Daz_Kez
15th February 2013, 14:16
GTi is slower on paper as it had more fuel/passengers.

The gearboxes are the same.

burgin2011
15th February 2013, 14:18
the gti's are still slightly heavier

Daz_Kez
15th February 2013, 14:20
the gti's are still slightly heavier

Because it had more fuel. There was 30kg difference..
There's nothing in it..
Read up on it.

Tom5190
15th February 2013, 16:57
vts/gti box's are the same. Also 125 in 5th on the limiter is abit low? should be more than that

Ross
15th February 2013, 17:10
the gti has a higher ratio box than the vts , thats why the S is abit quicker wouldent eat it alive thothe gti is suppost to be 1second slower on paper

Try again...

LSOfreak
15th February 2013, 17:17
maybe your brothers gti has had its gearbox replaced with a vtr one at some point

there shouldnt be a difference. they both weigh nearly the same. Yeah the vts has more plastic on it for the vt kit but that cant be much of a difference at all

Cam
15th February 2013, 17:25
As said every VTS has cams and a remap by old owner, funny enough i was looking through ebay today at vts's and..


Engine has fast road cams fitted and ecu remapped
i have just had it looked over by a mechanical friend and he says it it verry good condition mechanically, he changed all the fluids in the car and gave it a full service but as it was a cash job have no recepits.

i dont have anyproof of this but you can tell by the condition and how it drives it been very well looked after has no service history.. you can tell by the condition of the engine its beenm very well looked after

robster247
15th February 2013, 17:31
maybe your brothers gti has had its gearbox replaced with a vtr one at some point

there shouldnt be a difference. they both weigh nearly the same. Yeah the vts has more plastic on it for the vt kit but that cant be much of a difference at all

Could be a possiibilty, do the gearboxes have codes on them ? Like the engine code but for the box instead ?

And it was 125 on a straight strech with no wind either haha

jones91
15th February 2013, 17:32
As said every VTS has cams and a remap by old owner, funny enough i was looking through ebay today at vts's and..


Engine has fast road cams fitted and ecu remapped
i have just had it looked over by a mechanical friend and he says it it verry good condition mechanically, he changed all the fluids in the car and gave it a full service but as it was a cash job have no recepits.

i dont have anyproof of this but you can tell by the condition and how it drives it been very well looked after has no service history.. you can tell by the condition of the engine its beenm very well looked after
This pretty much sums up every vts for sale ad, somehow theyve all magically been cammed even though the rocker covers have never been off :p

Cam
15th February 2013, 17:38
This pretty much sums up every vts for sale ad, somehow theyve all magically been cammed even though the rocker covers have never been off :p

Lol i re-read the add again and just :homme:


i have just had it looked over by a mechanical friend and he says it it verry good condition mechanically

bad points:
engine managment light is on because the lamba sencor but this is because of the straight threw exhaust system can get poof if wanted
brakes slightly worped < :homme:
boot needs re alining
needs a few body work clips
headlights are cable tied them in but still work fine so i neva bothered geting new ones


In short its been ragged all its life been crashed and now its for sale lol.

jones91
15th February 2013, 17:48
Lol i re-read the add again and just :homme:


i have just had it looked over by a mechanical friend and he says it it verry good condition mechanically

bad points:
engine managment light is on because the lamba sencor but this is because of the straight threw exhaust system can get poof if wanted
brakes slightly worped < :homme:
boot needs re alining
needs a few body work clips
headlights are cable tied them in but still work fine so i neva bothered geting new ones


In short its been ragged all its life been crashed and now its for sale lol.
You got a link mate? I really want to see a great condition saxo with warped brakes and cable tied headlights :homme:

Sounds like a minter :p

Cam
15th February 2013, 17:51
You got a link mate? I really want to see a great condition saxo with warped brakes and cable tied headlights :homme:

Sounds like a minter :p

I'm on my phone so no but i can give you the item number,
I sure i seen the car on here before

Item number: 121066439001

Rave-nhill
15th February 2013, 18:13
You got a link mate? I really want to see a great condition saxo with warped brakes and cable tied headlights :homme:

Sounds like a minter :p

My m8 is after a VTS now after having a vtr for the last few year's, and the shit these people come out with is comical!!!

jones91
15th February 2013, 18:51
Here's the one cam mentioned I think

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem;PdsSession=df29a54913c0a02766344ed4fff90c d2?itemId=121066439001&kw=121066439001

And yeah..... wow......just lol :p

Rave-nhill, yeah apparently every vts/gti has been cammed lol, even though the rocker covers have never been removed and is still on its original head gasket haha

A lad I know has sold two "cammed" gti engines for under £150 and also sold a gti with a "180bhp conversion" by L.A.D motorsport (if anyone of here remembers them they will know they were full of shit) and claimed it was 180bhp

Cam
15th February 2013, 18:54
Thats the one ^ lol

josh11490
15th February 2013, 19:17
90% of vts's and gti's overseen on eBay has been faster than any other and cammed lol
Wouldn't trust the ad though unless there's proof.