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jamie1994
21st March 2013, 23:23
I just had my insurance through on my 1.1 at 2k a year and cant afford the vtr so i was wondering would putting a vtr K&N air filter on my 1.1 have better throttle response or not?

Gandi699
21st March 2013, 23:25
dont waste your money

jamie1994
21st March 2013, 23:31
i go to cruises quite alot around the milton keynes area with my mates who has saxo's and they are vtr's and vts's i already put a vt bodykit on and a universal air filter :p just want something to make is go abit faster :)

Quick
21st March 2013, 23:49
An air filter on a 1.1 is not going to give much (if any) extra power!

Only realistic way is to change the engine for a bigger one!

MartinObviously
21st March 2013, 23:59
If you fit a cone filter you will reduced throttle response.

If you fit a K&N panel filter as designed for your standard air box, it will improve.

won't gain much power though. maybe 1-2HP at most.

Nothing except a turbo or NOS will make a 1,1 faster. :)

jamie1994
22nd March 2013, 12:23
might just super charge it :p but i was going to do a vtr conversion but dont want to tell insurance so vtr will be easier to get away with than a vts :)

Gandi699
22nd March 2013, 12:32
theres no getting away with it, with a larger undeclared engine you wont be insured and thusly you are putting other road users at risk. Dont be a dick cheese

Brettles1986
22nd March 2013, 12:37
Keep it as it is, save money and buy a VTR or VTS later on when you can both handle and afford one

Ross
22nd March 2013, 12:39
might just super charge it :p but i was going to do a vtr conversion but dont want to tell insurance so vtr will be easier to get away with than a vts :)

Then you're an idiot. Please don't go to Milton Keynes - I have to go there too.

jamie1994
22nd March 2013, 12:45
aha i wont do that dont worry :') i cant even afford the engine and loom at the moment, only mods im doing tow is tint the back windows, 15" alloys, better soundsystem and vts interior and a cat back and i only have a rubbish back box :)

devilsadvocate
22nd March 2013, 13:21
aha i wont do that dont worry :') i cant even afford the engine and loom at the moment, only mods im doing tow is tint the back windows, 15" alloys, better soundsystem and vts interior and a cat back and i only have a rubbish back box :)

How much did the insurance set you back for adding those mods?

Brettles1986
22nd March 2013, 13:22
How much did the insurance set you back for adding those mods?

I sense sarcasm in this post

Ross
22nd March 2013, 13:31
I sense sarcasm in this post

I don't think there was any in that post. But I suspect there will be in the reply ;)

jamie1994
22nd March 2013, 15:57
well air filter didnt add any and tints added 2 pounds a year :p

FurioBoy17
31st March 2013, 19:39
Why would tinting your windows make the insurance go up? Lol, u only have to declare mods if they affect engine performance, otherwise u dont have to tell them about anything else, especially window tints lmao! Also dont do any mods to a 1.1 mate, its pointless and a waste of money, do subtle mods and keep it simple, then when ur insurance goes down and u can get a better car, mod that instead.

Quick
31st March 2013, 20:26
Why would tinting your windows make the insurance go up? Lol, u only have to declare mods if they affect engine performance, otherwise u dont have to tell them about anything else, especially window tints lmao! Also dont do any mods to a 1.1 mate, its pointless and a waste of money, do subtle mods and keep it simple, then when ur insurance goes down and u can get a better car, mod that instead.

Tints change the look of the car - making it more appearing to a thief. Changing a car from OEM should be declared!

You say don't mod, then a bit later you saw do - which is it??????????

greyjasper51
31st March 2013, 20:43
I cant believe that there is a complete conversation on adding an airfilter to a 1.1...

Leave it as std... Get a better job... And buy a faster car... Simple...

MartinObviously
31st March 2013, 21:15
Why would tinting your windows make the insurance go up? Lol, u only have to declare mods if they affect engine performance, otherwise u dont have to tell them about anything else, especially window tints lmao! Also dont do any mods to a 1.1 mate, its pointless and a waste of money, do subtle mods and keep it simple, then when ur insurance goes down and u can get a better car, mod that instead.

ALL modifications MUST be declared.

I had to declare my alloy wheels (Peugeot Ouragan) as they're not factory fitted. my Stainless "standard" exhaust also had to be declared.

Same with B8 suspension and lowering (not a power mod)
and my bigger brakes (insurance killer and also not a power mod)

Tints may make your car more appealing to thieves as they think you may have something to hide in there. also it potentially can reduce visibility in a collision.


However, I do agree with you not bothering to mod a 1.1 and getting a better car instead :P

Alfie09
31st March 2013, 22:11
might just super charge it :p but i was going to do a vtr conversion but dont want to tell insurance so vtr will be easier to get away with than a vts :)

I suppose you haven't told them about the body kit or air filter you aleady have in either?

And you wonder why your insurance is so high!!!

Alfie09
31st March 2013, 22:17
Why would tinting your windows make the insurance go up? Lol, u only have to declare mods if they affect engine performance, otherwise u dont have to tell them about anything else, especially window tints lmao! Also dont do any mods to a 1.1 mate, its pointless and a waste of money, do subtle mods and keep it simple, then when ur insurance goes down and u can get a better car, mod that instead.

You are sooooooo wrong

A modification In the eyes of an insurance company is something that is likely to make the car or its contents more attractive or add power to it.

So tints ,certain people in society will see that as saying I'm hiding something than can be sold for a few quid to exchange for a hit, so insurance goes up.

Alloy wheels, if it didn't roll out the factory with the its a mod, etc

Think a few people in this thread will learn the hard way about being legal when it comes to insurance

Cgravil22
31st March 2013, 23:54
Just thought I'd add to this I had a BMW cost me a lot, so I scimpted on telling insurance my mods only tints and alloys, I had a bad crash, guess what, my insurance was invalid this we are talking was 7 or 8 years ago if ur gunna do it claim your mods ur only fuckin yourself over in long run dude

FurioBoy17
5th April 2013, 20:54
ALL modifications MUST be declared.

I had to declare my alloy wheels (Peugeot Ouragan) as they're not factory fitted. my Stainless "standard" exhaust also had to be declared.

Same with B8 suspension and lowering (not a power mod)
and my bigger brakes (insurance killer and also not a power mod)

Tints may make your car more appealing to thieves as they think you may have something to hide in there. also it potentially can reduce visibility in a collision.


However, I do agree with you not bothering to mod a 1.1 and getting a better car instead :P

Tints change the look of the car - making it more appearing to a thief. Changing a car from OEM should be declared!

You say don't mod, then a bit later you saw do - which is it??????????

I was told by many people that mods do not have to be declared unless they affect engine performance, i haven't asked an insurance company so i maybe wrong but tbh i can see ur point with how tints could cause you to not see aswell as normal windows, but of they were that bad then you would not be allowed them period, anyway his car is only a 1.1 so as i said its pointless modding a slow car when you aint gona get much out of it

MartinObviously
5th April 2013, 21:05
I was told by many people that mods do not have to be declared unless they affect engine performance, i haven't asked an insurance company so i maybe wrong but tbh i can see ur point with how tints could cause you to not see aswell as normal windows, but of they were that bad then you would not be allowed them period, anyway his car is only a 1.1 so as i said its pointless modding a slow car when you aint gona get much out of it

You won't get anything out of it power wise :homme:

But modifications all must be declared.

tints on the rear can be as dark and mysterious as you like.