Spec

[RIBstaff]

FAO vts turbo owners.

Please post your spec.

Many Thanks




Just to help me with my t25 s13 project

[hesslevtr]

ooo this should be an intresting gread

good thread (when someone starts adding specs)

[RIBstaff]

Just interested in what most peoples setups are

[S34MER]

when you say spec, do you mean figures (bhp, 0-60, etc) or do you mean what parts they have (spec)?

I have the spec of a VTS turbo but no performance figures only the bhp at the wheels! i'll post if you want?

[RIBstaff]

Parts etc

[S34MER]

Heres Joe's VTS Turbo spec:

Hybrid Turbo
Alloy Intercooler
Alloy Radiator
2 bar map sensor
Signal conditioner
ERL MF2 extra injector driver
1000cc injector
dp tubular manifold
dp front pipe
dp dump valve
Samco hose
SS inlet pipe work
Apex-i AVC-R Boost controller (optional)


192bhp at wheels

RR Printout
http://www.dpmotorsport.net/dpprojects/images/joegraph-big.jpg

Engine bay pic
http://www.dpmotorsport.net/dpprojects/images/saxovts2.jpg

hope this helps mate

Oli

[RIBstaff]

Cheers mate.Do you no why people run a 5th injector? why dont they just get 4 bigger ones with a standalone ecu?

[S34MER]

for example, 15psi will take the stock fuel system over its capabilities to supply enough fuel at high revs and your intended boost level without modding either the fuel pressure, which will cock up the off boost and idle running, or adjusting the metering unit, which is hit and miss. 5th injector is simplest cheapest option without having fear of molten pistons, which WILL happen if it runs lean flat out. Too much fuel is ultimately safer in the long run even though you'll get bore wash and wear the motor out sooner.

[RIBstaff]

So if i had 4 large injectors with a hks standalone ecu an gmc forgies with double gasket i should be alright?

[S34MER]

So if i had 4 large injectors with a hks standalone ecu an gmc forgies with double gasket i should be alright?

should be mate, i would have thought, your just doing it the most expensive way! :fcuk:

[RIBstaff]

lol but would have thought it would be more reliable

[S34MER]

what psi are you intending to run??

[RIBstaff]

Proberly around 12psi but im not exatly einstein when it comes to boost

[S34MER]

what type of turbo is it?

[RIBstaff]

a t25 s13 off a 200sx

[S34MER]

with that i reckon you could deliver anywhere from 5-15psi no probs mate!?

[hesslevtr]

anybody if joes car well now bens is fixed

[S34MER]

anybody if joes car well now bens is fixed

wtf did you just write paul?? it makes no sense what so ever!....to me anyway!

[RIBstaff]

Good stuff:D

just need to get thinking about these injectors an which ecu to go for?

As for headwork what do you suggest? as in headgaskets etc?

[Mystic]

Good stuff:D

just need to get thinking about these injectors an which ecu to go for?

As for headwork what do you suggest? as in headgaskets etc?

Theres currently a group buy for the KMS standalone system being organised by Somers on SSC, theres a thread on here for it too but it hasnt been updated for a little while. Think the cut off for the KMS buy is early december, the 8th i think?

[S34MER]

just get a double layer head gasket! i think i've heard that a peugeot 405 SRI ECU will do the job better than your VTS one, obviously it will have to be re-mapped to accept boost! but a standalone is always an option!

[hesslevtr]

wtf did you just write paul?? it makes no sense what so ever!....to me anyway!

lol nor me now i read it

joes car is it fixed now

[RIBstaff]

Thanks

[S34MER]

no problem mate! hope i could help!

[RIBstaff]

:D ill keep you all updated

[S34MER]

thanks for the rep btw!!

[jezpick]

fuckin hell S34MER you know your shit about Turbo's don't ya!? lol

[l1ukeRS]

why do you need to run GMC forgies and 2 headgaskets?
jsut low comp forgies will do the trick for 12psi

what manifold are you using post up pics of your spec and bits that you are going to use, and the 5th injector is the easiest option controlled by mf2
then the car will drive more like a normal car for pottering around in off boost too
if you have a deep pocket then do it the way you said but if yuo look at all the turbo/sc cars on here and ssc most of them will be running 5th an sumtimes 6th injectors

what work have you done so far?

[RIBstaff]

Just collecting parts at the mo mate

[RIBstaff]

My plans:

T25 s13 turbo (built in wastegate)
Blister DP manifold
DP downpipe
BTB exhaust
RST intercooler
Port polish,skimmed with spacer plate
HKS ECU
4 large bosch injectors
charger pipe.


Think im going to try an get hold of one thing at a time instead of spending 3 odd k at one go. Also a DIY will be my first option as a couple of mates are mcc. As said be the only things confuseing me is the postioning of the alternator an oil filter? an what do i do with the pipes off the turbo?

Your help is appreciated.

RIB

[RIBstaff]

Anybody know if these pipes/feeds are needed? the t25 as you see it is roughly how it came off the 200sx. Just need to know which feeds need replacing an what they do.

Thanks


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/Richb007/Turboproject001.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/Richb007/Turboproject002.jpg

[l1ukeRS]

they are oil pipes me thinks

so why are you using 2 headgaskets then just use forgies and dont waste your money on bigger injectors and map map mapping, do it the tried and tersted way and then things wont go so wrong, if you do it right then ull make good power, its all the small things that count like getting all lines plumbed in properly, dont plumb the breahters into the boost line else you will pressurise your crankcase and spit oil out over the place

an external wastegate it is seperate from the turbo unit and does not require an actuator. Excess exhaust can either be fed into the exhaust system or it can be vented straight out and into the atmosphere.
an internal wastegate is better suited for low boost applications i believe but people use external wastegates when larger boost pressures are involved ( correct if im wrong sum1)

screamer pipe channels gasses from external wastegate through a separte pipe instead of the exhasut,its called a screame rcuz it makes a fookin racket! dont think ull pass an mot with a screamer pipe tho as it vents gas's into the atmosphere which is a no no from mr emissions man

best to use and oil cooler mate like a macal 1 that comes with a sandwich plate and filter etc

the alternator need to fit still you can get smaller 1's but idf the manifold is right then it should stay where it is

and the pipe from your turbo outlet, eg the boosted charge, need to go to the throttle body

[RIBstaff]

I have been told that my t25 (above) has a internal wastegate built in as do most s13s, only thing confuseing me is the pipes coming off the turbo as im not sure wihch ones will fit where with my setup if you understand:P

[l1ukeRS]

they are the oil feed lines for cooling it down, just identify which is a feed and which is a return and plumb in as nesasarry to your setup eg your feed of oil pressure switch and the return to the sump, you need to make sure the return to the sump is above oil level also

[RIBstaff]

What do you mean above oil level?plum in?

Sorry about my lack of turbo knowlege

Thanks

[saxoash]

What do you mean above oil level?plum in?

Sorry about my lack of turbo knowlege

Thanks

Simple make sure the return oil pipe from the turbo is above the oil level in the sump so that it can return the oil easyer, if it was below the oil level then it woul dbe fiting againts the pressure of th eoil in the simp to return the oil from the turbo.

I presume

[RIBstaff]

I dont need all 4 pipes that are on the turbo atm do i? is it safe to take them off an just replace with the new ones such as:http://www.aet-turbos.co.uk/accessories.htm and dps oil returns?

Many thanks

[l1ukeRS]

Simple make sure the return oil pipe from the turbo is above the oil level in the sump so that it can return the oil easyer, if it was below the oil level then it woul dbe fiting againts the pressure of th eoil in the simp to return the oil from the turbo.

I presume

thats it buddy,
right your turbo needs oil mate, so you need to plumb the oil lines for your turbo into you motor, people use a T piece from the oil pressure switch and the drilla hole and weld a boss for the return on the sump, above the oil level as Ash has explained as you want the best flow possible.

if i was you mate id swat up on ya knowledge alot first before trying thats what ive done, i havnt yet attemped mine yet im still getting parts and building a manifold, if you want it in a rush then id take it sumwhere to get done as you will probly end up witha bang and a big mess (not bein funny) just aint as easy as you think

[RIBstaff]

I understand vaguely:) Do you no if all 4 of the pipes are going to be used though?

"people use a T piece from the oil pressure switch and the drilla hole and weld a boss for the return on the sump":S??

Thanks