PDA

View Full Version : 708's work with standard lifters and springs?

riggsy
27th February 2007, 18:10
As title says, just trying to work out how much money im going to need....
bullit
27th February 2007, 18:15
yes they do
riggsy
27th February 2007, 18:22
Wicked thanks mate :) Thats saved me abit!
bullit
27th February 2007, 18:25
you not interested in the newmans cams
riggsy
27th February 2007, 18:26
I was but got told there shit and not worth buying?
bullit
27th February 2007, 18:32
fair enough, lol

the profiles seem good but ive not seen any results off anyone using them. wait and see to see what people get if your in no rush cause they seem cheap enough without the group buy
riggsy
27th February 2007, 18:36
Ok mate theres no rush anyway :)

When i was at pug performance (i know most on here and ssc slate them) but they said newmans are shit and to buy a different make...
bullit
27th February 2007, 18:39
prob cause they want to sell theres to you. we will have to see then.
riggsy
27th February 2007, 18:40
Yeah as a matter of fact they did offer me some piper second hand cams that had been re profiled.

But they kept saying the newmans were a crap fitment and did show hardly any gains over standard...
bullit
27th February 2007, 18:48
thought you would say piper as im sure thats what they use. id just see if anyone gets good results with the newmans or just buy some 708s. i wouldnt have what are offering you, if it doesnt work and the cam being the important bit youll be kicking yourself if goes tits up.
Mystic
27th February 2007, 20:16
But they kept saying the newmans were a crap fitment and did show hardly any gains over standard...

Thats almost impossible lol, the newcam cams are longer duration that catcam 708s & marginally higher lift. I have no idea what the fitment is like but it sounds like they are just buttering u up to sell yousome of their cams :P
D34no
27th February 2007, 22:39
at the end of the day how can they be shit!lol. they are far better than standard and probabily not noticable to any other brand out there.
riggsy
28th February 2007, 00:48
at the end of the day how can they be shit!lol. they are far better than standard and probabily not noticable to any other brand out there.

Im comparing these to 708s not standard!

Ill wait and see what people think in the group buy ;)
nassso
28th February 2007, 07:14
Here you can find some results with newman cams. http://www.lioliosracing.gr/main.php?id=142&lang=en
spencer_cammedvts
28th February 2007, 11:27
ferrari use exactly the same lifters that are in the vts/gti engines so catcams will be totally fine with them. springs will be ok to. as you know ferrarari engines scream at high revs so a vts with a limiter of say 7800 and 708's will be fine. thats what i have.
riggsy
28th February 2007, 11:32
Have you had yours mapped Spence?

What did it idle like before the map? Wont pass mot untill i remap right?
spencer_cammedvts
28th February 2007, 16:35
no mate i wouldnt have thought it will pass mot till the map mate.

yes i had it mapped. made 166bhp @fly and nearly 147bhp at the wheels.
great power!

idled like a bag of wank before the map mate. you can tinker with the timing though to get it reasonable. i just didnt bother though as i only had 2 wks till it was mapped.
nassso
28th February 2007, 17:05
Do you need to switch to higher octane fuel level after cammed? What i your idle engine rpm's after remap? Because i hear that you need to rise you idle to 1100-1200 to have good idle.
riggsy
28th February 2007, 18:08
no mate i wouldnt have thought it will pass mot till the map mate.

yes i had it mapped. made 166bhp @fly and nearly 147bhp at the wheels.
great power!

idled like a bag of wank before the map mate. you can tinker with the timing though to get it reasonable. i just didnt bother though as i only had 2 wks till it was mapped.

Wow nice figure that, bet you were chuffed!

What other modds you have to help get that?
spencer_cammedvts
19th March 2007, 21:21
no you dont need a higher octaine fuel. but what ever fuel you get the car mapped on should be the fuel you allways use. i got mine mapped on super unleaded. i tried normal unleaded the other day as the old bank was a bit empty. the car ran like shit. wants as quick and was cutting out sometimes at the lights. put super back in today and its fckin flying again.
jpsaxo
19th March 2007, 22:43
In response to the title... will be fine with standard stuff :)

lol Dan, you should pop over when you get chance mate, i want another burn in your car!! :)
williamsvts
19th March 2007, 23:35
Yeah as a matter of fact they did offer me some piper second hand cams that had been re profiled.

But they kept saying the newmans were a crap fitment and did show hardly any gains over standard...

lol, they said newmasn were shit then offered you reprofiled cams??? companines like that arent worth going to. i ahve heard nthing but good things about newmans cams.
Ryan
20th March 2007, 22:32
colin is a strange one, everyone slates PP sometimes its a bit pathetic. however colin is stuck in his ways and it shows.
boz
21st March 2007, 09:50
never herd any results from newmans cams yet, but will do soon. im sure some kids on the pug site are having theirs mapped soon.
boz
21st March 2007, 09:51
im guessing they will be around the same figures as the cat cams 708s, very similar profiles at a slighty cheaper price. either way, they will be alot better than standard profile cams, dounbt they will be shite as some people have stated, newmans have been in business for years and do a load of motorsports gear.
riggsy
21st March 2007, 10:14
Why did this thread get dug back up lol?

Dout ill be camming the vts any more anyways....