Guestimates on a postcard....;)

[shaggers_saxvtr]

As above...

RR day soon, which my vtr should be ready for (although wont be remapped:()

With the following mods what do you think my bhp could be..

60K Silver top mk1 Saxo VTR, 1999, rgular oil changes, new bosch super 4 plugs etc..

- 4-2-1 Supersprint manifold, SS decat, Remus racing tube and Magnex SS
backbox.

- 106 rallye inlet manifold

- Pipercross Viper

- Kent Cam (approx 11bhp increase once mapped & Adjustable Vernier pulley

Other mods include (although not bhp increasers...) XSi gearbox, Ive just fitted along with a new Clutch. 266mm front brake setup and various new gaskets whilst Ive had it off the road..!

Thanks,
Nick:y:

[saxoash]

Nice set up, got any pics of engine?

I guess around 120bhp if you have had head work

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Thanks dude, Headwork to come sometime soon, explained in my VTR prog. thread.

I will do soon, it should all be back together in the next week so watch the progress thread.

Thanks :) Would be great if its kicking out around standard vts bhp.

[Steve]

you getting re-map after head work yeah?

i think around the 120 mark

[vipergfx]

110-115 sounds reasonable to me, no reason why it couldnt hit 120 though

[stiffler69]

I got around 117-119 different fiquires each time rolling roaded on my vtr had a similar set up only piper 285 cam was also remapped if you get head work and have the s1 rallye inlet and also get the timing altered for best performance i dont see why you could be running around 120-130 bhp but only with the head work s1 inlet and getting your valve timing tinkered with

[mick2404]

Can I be cheeky and ask roughly how much you've spent getting it to that kind of level?

Ta

Mick

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Think its fair to see 115bhp maybe more if everythin works well on the day :-)

Id be well happy with that figure from the mods mention.

Just two questions:

1) Was the Rallye inlet manifold a direct swap?
2) Why a XSi gearbox? is it geared to be shorter?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

you getting re-map after head work yeah?

i think around the 120 mark

For now it will be as described, will run the inlet and cam/pulley etc but wont have remap or head work done by the RR day..

I will definitely be having headwork done and a remap in the near future (the expensive part..)!!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

I got around 117-119 different fiquires each time rolling roaded on my vtr had a similar set up only piper 285 cam was also remapped if you get head work and have the s1 rallye inlet and also get the timing altered for best performance i dont see why you could be running around 120-130 bhp but only with the head work s1 inlet and getting your valve timing tinkered with

Thanks for the info mate, I will certainly look into having the timing altered too as I hadnt thought much about that, defo headwork and a remap ont he cards tho. :p

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Can I be cheeky and ask roughly how much you've spent getting it to that kind of level?

Ta

Mick

Well the 106 Rallye inlet set me back £110
XSi gearbox £80
Clutch £70
Pipercross Viper £60
Magnex Backbox, Remus centre pipe, SS decat and Supersprint manifold £180..( I know people ;) )
I am still waiting on my Cam and pulley but a mate is getting it cheap as he knows the owner of Kent Cams :) and prob be £150-£200..

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Think its fair to see 115bhp maybe more if everythin works well on the day :-)

Id be well happy with that figure from the mods mention.

Just two questions:

1) Was the Rallye inlet manifold a direct swap?
2) Why a XSi gearbox? is it geared to be shorter?

Pretty much a direct swap I believe, all you need to do is modify the stepper motor, but mine is already done :)

XSI box, I knew of one and heard through Mark (GreenSaxo) that they are meant to be good boxes, Im pretty certain they are quite short ratio but with a long'ish final drive still.

[saxo_vtr1234]

how much bhp did you gain from inlet manifold ?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

how much bhp did you gain from inlet manifold ?

Havent a clue mate..
Anyone have any ideas..??

[saxo_vtr1234]

oh just that what you,ve done is near on the same as mine exceptp the inlet manifold and pulley well it is the same part from the above

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Oh right, ok mate, Im afraid I could guess how much, not alot thought, just drawsin more air, approx 10mm bigger over standard i think

[saxo_vtr1234]

not alot bhp gain then mate 2-3 ?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Not sure, maybe something like that, just better throttle response etc really.

[saxo_vtr1234]

so we should be bowt same power is your cam a pt 40 ?

[stiffler69]

Ive heard you can get really good gains from the inlet once the car is mapped fully and thats a massive amount more to flow 10mm, times it by the speed the engine is pulling in the air and i bet its a good percentage of power increase overall should be a fast vtr if you get the work done thats listed, also i know a place who can map the car and is alot cheaper than chipwizards over £100 cheaper

[saxo_vtr1234]

where ?

[stiffler69]

where ?

The place is called automark and its in stokesly in middlesbrough he charges £290 plus vat works our around £340 i think much better than the £480 summit chip wizards wants

[saxo_vtr1234]

do they put it on the rollers ?

and are they well recomended ?

[jimbo06]

i'l go for 115bhp-117bhp

[stiffler69]

do they put it on the rollers ?

and are they well recomended ?


Yeah mate it goes on the rolling road to be mapped and they generally deal with the big boys turbo'd audi's subarus and come very highly recommended in the area

[manc]

Surely not a ECU remap stiffler?

ManC