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Jackman
18th March 2007, 14:25
Thinking of selling up my Furio to buy one of these pretty soon.

Just wondered what you think?

and i dont want all that a VTS will beat it everytime crap:homme:

i went in one the other day and i really liked it.

a nice white one would do it for me !

yerdusk
18th March 2007, 14:26
rust buckets!

Skorpion
18th March 2007, 14:28
Be lucky to find ones in good condition that aint been thrashed every way to tuesday mate! good luck for finding one though!

argylefan1985
18th March 2007, 14:28
My mate had one.

Personaly.....

I hate fords.

Second of all. Theres alot to go wrong with them etc.
and for the sake of a turbo and all the higher running costs etc that come with it, just get a vts

MaRiO89
18th March 2007, 14:28
They rust quite bad and the 1.6 cvh engine is total shite apparently, my bro had one for about a week and got rid as the handling, brakes and everything was crap..

I'd still have one though, love em to bits!! :)

Jackman
18th March 2007, 14:29
Ive round a couple to be honest in really good condition. and with mint engines.

its not what you know its who you know.

i wouldnt buy a battered up one.

Leo
18th March 2007, 14:29
people bang on about rust and stuff but i think its OTT. ive seen a few good ones. they are rockets

Jackman
18th March 2007, 14:30
My mate had one.

Personaly.....

I hate fords.

Second of all. Theres alot to go wrong with them etc.
and for the sake of a turbo and all the higher running costs etc that come with it, just get a vts

Dont want another saxo.

END OF.

woodsy
18th March 2007, 14:32
get a vauxhall turbo

nice cavalier tubro or astra ...

mate is selling a cavi turbo on egay now .... ummm C20LET

Danr
18th March 2007, 14:33
They rust quite bad and the 1.6 cvh engine is total shite apparently, my bro had one for about a week and got rid as the handling, brakes and everything was crap..

I'd still have one though, love em to bits!! :)

cvh engine shite???????

They are pretty good cars matey, not as tunable than the escort version but go really well as they don't weigh much.

As mentioned, try to find one with minimal rust. Rip the carpets up, try and get under the car to look at the sills/arches etc. Check the sunroof (can't remember if they had one but the escort is prone there), check behind the lights and on the boot :) If its sound buy it, you can get rust prevention treatments aswell.

Fiesta turbo (http://www.fiestaturbo.com/) is a wicked website, they have a really good forum which everyone is verrrrry helpful on. Some nice cars on there aswell :)

I'd say deffers get one though :)

MaRiO89
18th March 2007, 14:36
Yeah they are shite, they weren't changed at all to handle a turbo and cant take much tuning and stay reliable, its a 15 yr old or so engine design now, was shit in its day and is shit now..

i'm not arguing, but if you think they are good then thats your opinion.. ;)

Jackman
18th March 2007, 14:36
cvh engine shite???????

They are pretty good cars matey, not as tunable than the escort version but go really well as they don't weigh much.

As mentioned, try to find one with minimal rust. Rip the carpets up, try and get under the car to look at the sills/arches etc. Check the sunroof (can't remember if they had one but the escort is prone there), check behind the lights and on the boot :) If its sound buy it, you can get rust prevention treatments aswell.

Fiesta turbo (http://www.fiestaturbo.com/) is a wicked website, they have a really good forum which everyone is verrrrry helpful on. Some nice cars on there aswell :)

I'd say deffers get one though :)


Thanks for a constructive answer :y:

ive found a couple really nice ones with mint engine bays and dont look to bad body wise. but i wouldnt know till i went to view.

im definatly thinking about them. there isnt to many around from what i can see near me either. so its something a little different.

Danr
18th March 2007, 14:38
Yeah they are shite, they weren't changed at all to handle a turbo and cant take much tuning and stay reliable, its a 15 yr old or so engine design now, was shit in its day and is shit now..

i'm not arguing, but if you think they are good then thats your opinion.. ;)

And also the opinion of all the people that bought them?? As you said, they are 15 year old cars with turbo's on that are still flying about everywhere. Would like to see 15 year old saxo's with turbo's just bolted on as you put it still going.

MaRiO89
18th March 2007, 14:43
i'm just going by what i have experienced when my bro had one, they are fast but thats about the only good point.

The only reason they are going is because people who own them pour money into them, if you ever sat down and thought, my saxo is unreliable, dont get a fiesta rs turbo..

stiffler69
18th March 2007, 14:44
Dated Extremely dated, have you actually been in a vts not sure why you would want one of these over a vts i know its a nice to have a change every now and then but really mate i had a vtr previously and the vts knocks the socks of it and my vtr was pretty well tuned upto 120bhp, everything about the vts just felt better maybe have a go of a vts first if you havnt already

Danr
18th March 2007, 14:46
He said her didn't want another saxo. :err:

James_bristol, your bro's was obs a bit of a shitter then lol. Not trying to start arguments but i have a good 4 friends with escorts and fezza's and theirs are fine.

KamRacing
18th March 2007, 14:46
Not all that great on the handling either...

Personally I'd test drive one before making any decision on purchasing. Everywhere a saxo is good the fiesta is not.

Don't buy just because it has a turbo

There are good Fords.. just, thats not one of them

davew
18th March 2007, 14:46
good cars but like others have said really got watch out for rotten examples..

i used to really like them and was seriously considering getting one but the fact that there was so much to go wrong kind of put me of..., eyes down for classic rust around the filler cap.

Bad points-
--Rust
--handling
--not that quick
--mk3 fiesta = builder car
--Running costs

Good points

--Whooom tssh!
--old skool cool
--u can scare kids with the dump valve noise
--everyone from kids to your dad knows what they are and can remember when they either went in one or wanted one


completely up to you dude, i really really like them

but i'd never buy one......

Jackman
18th March 2007, 14:51
Dated Extremely dated, have you actually been in a vts not sure why you would want one of these over a vts i know its a nice to have a change every now and then but really mate i had a vtr previously and the vts knocks the socks of it and my vtr was pretty well tuned upto 120bhp, everything about the vts just felt better maybe have a go of a vts first if you havnt already

DONT WANT ANOTHER SAXO.

been in a vts. did absolutly nothing for me.

i know the bad points. but i still really like them. theres always a better car out there than the one you own at the end of the day. but everyone on here still bought a saxo over something even though that something could of had something better.

i will be test driving one. and doing alot of research into it before i go ahead and spalsh the cash. :y:

Danr
18th March 2007, 14:52
Also, if you want more power and don't want a cvh engine. Whack this in!

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetecturbo/

MaRiO89
18th March 2007, 14:54
Not all that great on the handling either...

Personally I'd test drive one before making any decision on purchasing. Everywhere a saxo is good the fiesta is not.

Don't buy just because it has a turbo

There are good Fords.. just, thats not one of them


Agree'd!:y:

Jackman
18th March 2007, 18:50
Also, if you want more power and don't want a cvh engine. Whack this in!

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetecturbo/

Like the look of that:A:

dont care what anyone else says now. i want one.

sim69er
18th March 2007, 18:52
thought you were having trouble with insurance these would be alot more to insure than your furio

Jackman
18th March 2007, 18:54
thought you were having trouble with insurance these would be alot more to insure than your furio

i havent had any trouble with insurance. just said it was high.

never said when i was buying one ;)

sim69er
18th March 2007, 18:56
aww rite as one of these would be costly on insurance

Jackman
18th March 2007, 19:01
aww rite as one of these would be costly on insurance

Havent even looked at insurance yet.

i wont be buying one till i return from travelling australia and new zealand anyway:y:

Jackman
18th March 2007, 20:19
Pretty good example here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/140535.htm

brammer
9th April 2007, 02:56
Some very interesting comments here and yes i do agree with some but its like anything you get for what you pay for, i personnally have had over 35 of the RS range and i beleive their isn't much else that will give you the buz of these, i have owned other cars aswell including a full GRP A 205 mi16 on 52's and a 32psi R5GTT but still not as fun as the RS's, these cars are over 20 years old or coming upto it and people still sell their newer cars to buy them.

Like i said you get for what you pay for, i wouldn't expect a lot for less than than £3000 this being the very least i would ever pay, £3-4 will get you an honest turbo with low miles and rot free, if you choice a fiesta make sure the first thing you do is convert to a T3 turbocharger as the T2 just isn't upto the job as the internal components are just too weak.

Price example: i sold this last year for £4000 totally mint show car with full service history, receipts, 5 owners, 80k on the clock original engine and unchipped but front mount intercooler, alloy radiator, turbo, head, cam, air filter and it saw 164bhp @8psi and you could run that all day long safely.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/turboboy67IOW_regional_day_01.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/h196jnePicture_144.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/Picture164.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/Picture157.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/Picture159.jpg

Then theirs my new project:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/My%20new%20fiesta%20RS%20Turbo/front.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/My%20new%20fiesta%20RS%20Turbo/Picture001-3.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/h186jne/My%20new%20fiesta%20RS%20Turbo/Picture002-4.jpg

If you ever need advice on these drop us a pm and i'll sort you out with any questions you have.:y:

Chris.

devilsadvocate
9th April 2007, 09:25
As already said, rust buckets, Although any car that is 15 years old is likely to be on its way out. I would never buy 1 private and you would be lucky to find a garage that has one.

Try to find one with low mileage. Check for rust EVERYWHERE: Sills, Boot, Chassis, and arches are the major spots. Ive never actually driven one so cant voice my opinion on acceleration etc but they are supposed to be fast enough.

Jackman
9th April 2007, 09:32
Brammer. thanks for that. your car was stunning.

wont be looking at these now as i shall be moving to america pretty soon.

maybe when i come back though with a bit of cash to spend :P

oadamo
9th April 2007, 09:40
ive had 3 fiesta rs turbos and 4 escort rs turbos. i now own a rs cabriolet and all i can say is there rust buckets ans money pits. i get 35miles to a tenner.
countless problems your always messing with them and the one i have now i paid £2200 and still is a bag of shit i wish i never bought. but its got a turbo lol. you will find you will get little problems from the engines but the cars falling part around it. so if your gonna buy one be very carefull

Jackman
9th April 2007, 09:44
ive had 3 fiesta rs turbos and 4 escort rs turbos. i now own a rs cabriolet and all i can say is there rust buckets ans money pits. i get 35miles to a tenner.
countless problems your always messing with them and the one i have now i paid £2200 and still is a bag of shit i wish i never bought. but its got a turbo lol. you will find you will get little problems from the engines but the cars falling part around it. so if your gonna buy one be very carefull

i cant help but ask. but if they are shitty rust buckets, why buy them again and again?

oadamo
9th April 2007, 09:51
i cant help but ask. but if they are shitty rust buckets, why buy them again and again?

because there turbo lol and when i test drove them they all seem fine. and on this one i had a rac check but the probs only start showing after you have had them for a while so if you have a test drive make sure you take it for a long one and test everything. and when you test drive you cant really cain them and and thats when you see the real probs like knocking bottom arms. engine mounts. not boost propely
adam

Jackman
9th April 2007, 09:54
because there turbo lol and when i test drove them they all seem fine. and on this one i had a rac check but the probs only start showing after you have had them for a while so if you have a test drive make sure you take it for a long one and test everything. and when you test drive you cant really cain them and and thats when you see the real probs like knocking bottom arms. engine mounts. not boost propely
adam

I see. its not the turbo that does it for me. theres a much better turbo'd car i could buy. i just like the car as a whole:y:

oadamo
9th April 2007, 10:14
dont get me wrong iam not slagging them. off but i seached for good one and its very hard to get one. and you do have a lot of probs them.you might find a good one but ive bought a few and havent yet. so all iam saying if you go for one be very carefull. iam now thinking of buying somthing newer like a subaru or somthing
adam

tarmacdestroyer
9th April 2007, 10:46
i like the fiesta rs turbo, it may not be as quick as a vts but there is usually more to a car than just speed

its retro mofo!

brammer
9th April 2007, 14:49
As already said, rust buckets, Although any car that is 15 years old is likely to be on its way out. I would never buy 1 private and you would be lucky to find a garage that has one.


My saxo has more rust than my turbo :panic: like i said its like everything, you buy a saxo 1997 vtr that has sat outside all its life and has 140k on the clock it will be rough you do the same with a ford and like you said it will be rotten but if you visit www.bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk you will be shocked at the condition of some of those cars and they keep the value of any saxo ever will, if their mint you normally find the owner is an enthusiast and they are very well kept like mine which last year covered 931 miles.

MaRiO89
9th April 2007, 14:56
Its fact though that fords, old ones that is, rot.. There are alot of neglected 205's around with no rust, PSA group zinc plate their cars so they wont rust, ford dont..

brammer
9th April 2007, 15:45
But the paint fall's off the shell, i know i've had it twice on the rear quaters, as soon as you get a stone chip and the water gets underneath it peels off.

stingray
9th April 2007, 21:43
I had a Fiesta RS Turbo before getting the Saxo.

I liked the car but high milers can get expensive to maintain and there are rust issues to worry about.They are prone to splitting the bottom radiator hose and are a right pig to replace.The turbo's get tired after 100,000 miles and can cost around £700 for a replacement and the CVH engine is'nt that good.
The best place to secure a really good example is to join the RS owners Club & buy one through the club.

williamsvts
9th April 2007, 21:48
imo, nice cars, i really like them. but as an everyday car will need a lot of care as more than likely will be highish mileage, will ahve been ragged and are an old turbo engine.

i agreew ith buying through a club, but then again, a lot of clubs are now doing trackdays so it could have been ragged rounbd a track every weekend.

potatopete
9th April 2007, 21:57
There are plenty of small turbo'd cars around. Dont go for a Ford. I hate Fords cos they're really CRAP!

brammer
9th April 2007, 23:24
There are plenty of small turbo'd cars around. Dont go for a Ford. I hate Fords cos they're really CRAP!

I own a saxo mainly as a smoker to work and back its good enough for that but you are kidding when you say ford are crap, this is like the subaru v cosworth thing (boring), ford have over 30 different models of rs in its fleet and most have racing or rally heritage, sorry but what have Citroen got?????????? nothing its the saxo that made the company (even this isn't the best for tuning) pre saxo models all look and act like spaceships :panic: lifty up and down suspension etc very bad design and always failed.

The top and bottom of this is if you need an every day car don't buy a turbocharged car as they break.:y: