vtr upgrades

[ukballer]

just got myself a 2000 vtr for my first car so havnt got that much idea on engine performance just wondering what you would recomend to start with and which to use...

dont want to go out a spen 1k in a month want it to be progressive

[VTS_16v_Boy]

VTR great car to strat with Light, good 8v engine :y: top stuff

Basically engine tuning is getting more air and fuel into the cyclinders burning it then getting rid of it as fast as you can.

Airfilters/Induction kits get your air in quicker
Your ECU will (to a point) adjust the fuel itself and put more in
Then a Performance Exhaust and/or Performance exhaust Manifold will get the Gases out quicker

There by increasing the engines performance.

Check out www.kam-racing.com for good airfilters and manifolds then its just a choice of the exhaust which is more down to how you want it to look as most of the leading brands Magnex/Janspeed/Piper/Scorpion will perform pretty much the same give or take a pony or two :y:

Dececnt airfilter - about £100
Decent Manifold - about £150-£300 depending on brand and type
Decent Exhaust - About £200-£300+ depending on brand and type

:)

[ukballer]

thankyou buddy nice 1

[Sean]

if you want to spend 1k then buy a vts engine for circa £500 and either fit it yourself or use the remaining money to have it fitted, far better than wasting money tuning the vtr in my opinion.

[ukballer]

yeah id never get insured tho really.....

[GTI_Lee]

Dont tell them! :P

[ukballer]

good idea never thought of that hehe;)

[riggsy]

LOL then crash and they wont pay out nasty!!

Just buy a vts its in a different league, well thats what i got told when i had a vtr now i have a vts and i can say its soo true!! But when i had the vtr it was for a reason ie i couldnt get insurance on a vts :(

With exhaust manifold and enclosed induction kit it will feel a fair bit quick but still no match for the vts....

[Steve]

best bet is to keep your eye out for second hand stuff!

manifold, backbox etc etc :y:

[riggsy]

Yeah very true if its stainless steel it last ages :)

[S34MER]

if you want to spend 1k then buy a vts engine for circa £500 and either fit it yourself or use the remaining money to have it fitted, far better than wasting money tuning the vtr in my opinion.

*cough* read *cough* ;)

dont want to go out a spen 1k in a month

[riggsy]

Did read it was just explaining more!

[ukballer]

thnx for all the help guys ill keep my eyes pealed i think im going to start of with the induction kit

what do you guys think of this
http://www.kam-racing.com/product_info.php/products_id/71?osCsid=a0a4af761a44d85aecb6d791de825dbe

or is there better higher recomended ones for the same price or less

[riggsy]

Green is expensive kamracing also do the raceland which i have on my vts, i also got it a replacement green filter which sounds awesome!

[chopa]

like said mate just go for the usual stuff, mani, exhaust, induction. to get alot of performance out of a vtr you need to spend quite alot of money on the vtr lump or put in a vts. where bouts in the midlands you form mate??

[ukballer]

im from willenhall just past junction 10 on the m6

[ukballer]

just seen this would this be ok anybody ever tryed one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-Simota-Induction-Intake-Saxo-VTS-VTR-GTi_W0QQitemZ190095664143QQcategoryZ36680QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[BENSAX3]

lots of people on here have those and they just replce the filter with a green one as the one supplied is s**t

[WestyVTR]

Dont buy a VTS - 1 coz you can afford it, 2 the VTR is a VTS minus the 16 valves and a few other niggly bits! - You "S" lovers dont eat me, you know wot im trying to say -

If i were you and i wanted a quick car, not fast, but quick car, breathing mods, filter circa, £80, exhaust & fanimold circa £400, lower it -40mm, lowering springs circa £50. and a 106 rallye gearbox second hand low'ish milage youll love it! I DID and so did Pav's when he did it, he thanked me so much for telling him to do it! LOL recording a 5.7 sec to 60 at trax 06 was impressive - the timing wasnt 100% by any means but still it was quick!!

[bullit]

5.7, lol

[ets2k9]

if you want to spend 1k then buy a vts engine for circa £500 and either fit it yourself or use the remaining money to have it fitted, far better than wasting money tuning the vtr in my opinion.

Sounds like a plan to me and Sean will help you fit it just not wire it ;)

[hesslevtr]

Sounds like a plan to me and Sean will help you fit it just not wire it ;)

yeah he can fit vts engines in weekends ;)

[ets2k9]

yeah he can fit vts engines in weekends

He locked the vtr ecu pretty quick so I cant see why it would take any longer.

;)

[WestyVTR]

5.7, lol

I know - timing gear was spot on as you can tell....! :oops:

i hit 10.6 with a clutch slipping like a turb down the bowl after a night of vindaloo....

[hesslevtr]

I know - timing gear was spot on as you can tell....! :oops:

it was i got an 8.75 that day

so did dsh

and i think a few others to

you got a 10 didnt you

[WestyVTR]

yeah he can fit vts engines in weekends ;)

VTR out VTS in... job done - im acually saving for a GTi engine for mine ;)

[ets2k9]

VTR out VTS in... job done - im acually saving for a GTi engine for mine
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I wouldn't bother the engine you have seems like a monster.....

5.7 ;)

[hesslevtr]

VTR out VTS in... job done - im acually saving for a GTi engine for mine ;)

its took him close to 3 months now and still isnt done

[WestyVTR]

it was i got an 8.75 that day

so did dsh

and i think a few others to

you got a 10 didnt you


thought it was 10.6 i wasnt happy both times it was 10.6.. what are the odds of that!? with BMC 4 branch zorst not cat, "fast road" clutch" not that that does anything much! LOL not impressed :oops:

i wasnt convinced teh times were 100% but ho hum

[WestyVTR]

its took him close to 3 months now and still isnt done

it all takes time! :panic: :drink:

[ukballer]

nice im going to have to keep my eyes open for one how much do garages charge on average to fit a gearbox or do you think it would be possible to do at home im a traine mechanic so have some knoladge but im only 4 months into my training so not alot

[hesslevtr]

nice im going to have to keep my eyes open for one how much do garages charge on average to fit a gearbox or do you think it would be possible to do at home im a traine mechanic so have some knoladge but im only 4 months into my training so not alot

probly around 100 mark to fit it

its easy enough job really

i did sort of a guide n how to fit 1

[ukballer]

ohhh nice 1 buddy if you can sort me out that would be great not going to be doing it for a while going to be doing some little mods first...

[hesslevtr]

ohhh nice 1 buddy if you can sort me out that would be great not going to be doing it for a while going to be doing some little mods first...

have a search

it wasnt that long ago

it was a reply to a gearbox poblem

if you cant find it let me no and il find it

make sure u search though

[WestyVTR]

has anyone put a rallye box on a gti/vts before!

[Japman]

ive got a 1.4 box on my vts,its nipper as fock but its shite top end and uses loads of fuel :(

[WestyVTR]

so what!! is quick right, not fast but quick. IMO a saxo is never going to be the fastest car but it can be dam quick and great in teh bends. The xsi isnt a bad box to have on a vts ive heard, not too dis similar to the rallye.

[Japman]

i wouldnt say its much quicker,i found that my vtr box had longer gears.maybe im wrong but it felt longer and the top end was awsome

[WestyVTR]

VTR is longer than VTS. Try a rallye box on the s ull love it!!

[Ryan]

all use the same gearset. so the drop off between gears will be the same, its only the final drive that differs.

on my track car ive got a quaifed up s1 box, (not tested yet though) but have an xsi FD here to..

think the xsi box is a good one as alot less rare than an s1 box

[WestyVTR]

xsi is a good bet! wot do you mean by FD!???

[bullit]

final drive

[Ryan]

final drive

blap balp :panic:

[WestyVTR]

final drive

Sorry not wiv the lingo! LMBO

[Ryan]

Sorry not wiv the lingo! LMBO

ive still got the job of stripping an s1 box to see just how fucked it is! o joy

[WestyVTR]

ive still got the job of stripping an s1 box to see just how fucked it is! o joy

all in gd time! :drink:

[VTR-98]

My first VTR had a screwed up gear box, so i bought a diesel one for it for £100. Took me 2 days to take old one out and put diesel one on, was pretty surprised, 0-90 was really rapid, but top end only reached 105mph. But back when i had that VTR top speed wasnt important to me.

[sy_VTR]

ive got a four branch, full stainless, and my newley purchased piper camshaft will be here shortly, then its getting mapped once i get a bmc! she runs quite well with the exhaust at the mo!!