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saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:14
what are a few things i can do to my 1.6i 8v (03) citreon saxo to improve its 0-60???

Dan
20th April 2007, 11:16
Well what have you done to it so far, performance wise?

Stripping it out is a good place to start.

saxosxi
20th April 2007, 11:17
could do usaul things new sports exhaust system , enclosed induction kit then if you want to spend a bit of money buy some new cams

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:22
well i havent done anything yet but i wanna spend lol!

jimbo06
20th April 2007, 11:24
strip it out, get a decent manifold, exhaust system, induction kit first of all.

saxosxi
20th April 2007, 11:24
go for new cams , cold air feed induction kit and a whole new exhaust system

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:25
and also, well fitting an uprated air filter panel give is a sporteir engine note???

KamRacing
20th April 2007, 11:26
road legal slicks and a decent clutch, then prepare to be amazed at the difference

saxosxi
20th April 2007, 11:27
maybe depends how much you want to spend but a open induction kit gives it a sporty sound when ya put your foot down but for better performance get a enclosed 1 mate

Steve
20th April 2007, 11:28
why were my posts deleted?

as i said in post that was deleted, strip weight from the car as it is free (back seats). Improve your clutch control, dont hit the limiter as power is normally dropping off by this point, should be able to feel it.

Get some breathing mods i.e manifold , exhaust system, air intake sorted.
Have a search around see what induction kits people use and exhaust systems. Most will say bmc or raceland enclosed with a green filter.
Some decent tyres as well, as stated above.

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:29
road legal slicks :) i like the sound of them where can i g

rab myself some of them and how much will i be out of pocket??? arnt race cluthes like 3k lol?!?!?

stiffler69
20th April 2007, 11:31
Get a vts engine even after the cams and all these goodies the vts will show you who the boss is

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:32
yea i noticed after 6000rpm yr heads going forwards not backwards...so these slicks seem like the most sensible thing im to scared with this induction kits i think its aimed to typical boy-racers.....rather than someone who wants a half decant power band.

Scott
20th April 2007, 11:33
why were my posts deleted?

as i said in post that was deleted,

you posted in the other thread numpty:P

Steve
20th April 2007, 11:33
why were my posts deleted?

as i said in post that was deleted, strip weight from the car as it is free (back seats). Improve your clutch control, dont hit the limiter as power is normally dropping off by this point, should be able to feel it.

Get some breathing mods i.e manifold , exhaust system, air intake sorted.
Have a search around see what induction kits people use and exhaust systems. Most will say bmc or raceland enclosed with a green filter.
Some decent tyres as well, as stated above.

were not deleted there is two threads :homme: get the other one closed :afro:

Steve
20th April 2007, 11:33
you posted in the other thread numpty:P

just realised there scott haha :p

KamRacing
20th April 2007, 11:38
road legal slicks :) i like the sound of them where can i g

rab myself some of them and how much will i be out of pocket??? arnt race cluthes like 3k lol?!?!?

a paddle clutch and uprated clutchplate would at a guess cost you about £300. road legal slicks will be about £110 per wheel for a 15" wheel

To add to the cheap mod pile how about 13" alloys and lowish profile wheels. This will lower the gearing, be less rotational weight so you will accelerate quicker!

saxosxi
20th April 2007, 11:39
not just for boy racers mate just giving better air flow to the engine

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:40
right ok so:


sport manifold down , including de-cat 3"??? i dont care about wat it looks like or sounds.....want the 0-60

inclosed air intake preventing heat...

uprated cams


so its now producing 99 bhp will these get it over 100???

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:41
they come with 13 inch wheels standerd lmao

Karl
20th April 2007, 11:42
what do?

VTR wheels are 14s.

try changing at 5,600 rpm for optimum peformance?

KamRacing
20th April 2007, 11:43
lol opps!
10" minilites it is then :p

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:44
well i gota go now, cheers for the help guys love the sound of the slicks....and the de-cat!!!!!!!

hesslevtr
20th April 2007, 11:44
they come with 13 inch wheels standerd lmao

vtrs dont

what budget you have and what do you expect to take off the time

saxiboi
20th April 2007, 11:46
ahh 14 my bad eek!!!! ok so 10s it is hahahah!!!!! not a serius buget probs £1000 max!?!? love to get a second off lol

sy_VTR
20th April 2007, 11:46
This Thread Is On Every Day!

hesslevtr
20th April 2007, 11:54
id strip as much as you possibly can out of it

lower ratio gearbox

some decent tyres

decent manifold and second hand exhaust of a decent sort

MaRiO89
20th April 2007, 11:59
This Thread Is On Every Day!


LOL, so true! :clapping:

Steve
20th April 2007, 11:59
if you change the manifold on your car that will de-cat it, decent zorst system and induction kit i can see it producing more than 100bhp as standard your model is meant to be 98bhp..... so they say....
with cams you will certainly be over the 100bhp mark.

But after all that money spent would be cheaper for performance to get a vts engine but thats not what everyone wants to do :y:

MaRiO89
20th April 2007, 12:00
If your engine is 98 bhp standard you would be looking at 120bhp atleast with exhaust, mani, cam and remap!!

hesslevtr
20th April 2007, 12:03
he needs torque to get him to 60 qucikly forget about bhp

VTS_16v_Boy
20th April 2007, 12:04
Sourch a set of light weight 106rallye Steel rims, Decent tyres, strip everything out apart from your drivers seat and the dash, a RaceLand 4-2-1 4branch manifold and a Ashley cat back exhaust system and your lookin around £150 Ashley system, £130 4branch, £37per steelie and whatever tyres cost So for like £400 you could be postin some very impressive times.

MaRiO89
20th April 2007, 12:20
he needs torque to get him to 60 qucikly forget about bhp

More bhp will help if you launch it at say 3500rpm..;)

hesslevtr
20th April 2007, 12:22
torque is what moves the car without that you will be fooked

MaRiO89
20th April 2007, 12:27
Yeah i agree.

But

Most mods improve BHP not torque so much and like i said launch at 3.5k and your away. :)

saxiboi
21st April 2007, 13:04
ok , ok i just fitted a cold air intake...

no noticle performance apart from a sexual growl...

what next???

chloesax
21st April 2007, 13:44
Yeah i agree.

But

Most mods improve BHP not torque so much and like i said launch at 3.5k and your away. :)

WHAT?!?! lol
James.... the only thing an engine produces is torque, therefore any mods to the engine, intake, exhaust will affect the torque... the only exception is the upping of the rev limiter, provided the cams and ignition timings are able to provide sufficent torque at uber high revs.

hp is a function of engine rpm and torque.

btw Im just chilling from revision. im doing well.

S34MER
21st April 2007, 13:46
go for new cams , cold air feed induction kit and a whole new exhaust system

its cam mate NOT cams! the VTR is 8v which means single cam :p the S is 16v and has twin cams ;)

but to answer the original question, get yourself a full cat back exhaust system, and a 4-2-1 manifold, these along with a decent enclosed induction kit will allow your car to braeth better and increase acceleration, but the best mod of all for improving 0-60 times is to strip it out right to the shell! so carpets, rear seats, dash board etc, depends how wild you wanna go with it and what its for! :y:

obviously if its for road use you might wanna keep it legal and leave the dash in :p

WHAT?!?! lol
James.... the only thing an engine produces is torque, therefore any mods to the engine, intake, exhaust will affect the torque... the only exception is the upping of the rev limiter, provided the cams and ignition timings are able to provide sufficent torque at uber high revs.

hp is a function of engine rpm and torque.

btw Im just chilling from revision. im doing well.

ads if your going to use chloe as a disguise, then at least do it disgreetly, instead of being your usual geeky self lol

hesslevtr
21st April 2007, 13:51
ok , ok i just fitted a cold air intake...

no noticle performance apart from a sexual growl...

what next???

a cold air feed will not see any performance alone

read some of the sugestions as to what todo next

easiest is to strip bits you dont need from car

chloesax
21st April 2007, 13:54
ads if your going to use chloe as a disguise, then at least do it disgreetly, instaed of being your usual geeky self lol

naaa, just taking a breather from the uni work. thought id have a quick view through the pages but got enragedddddddddddddddddddd by the horse power comment.

anyway take it easy dudes I'm off.

b0t13
21st April 2007, 14:10
haha ur such a sax-p whore, laters dude.

Ry_B
21st April 2007, 14:26
new cams

He said the 8valve so a VTR

Tony
22nd April 2007, 00:42
VTS/Gti gearbox would probably make the most noticable 0-60 difference other than a cam, and alot cheaper than buying it and the complementary parts.

Around £200 fitted give or take.

If it is a 3 plug ecu i wouldnt bother with a remap, sell it and get a single plug VTS.

boz
22nd April 2007, 02:09
depends on what you want it for and how much you want to spend?

is it for the drag strip?

you could strip the interior, leave one seat in?
get a good clutch with lightend flywheel
106 ralleye box
4-1 manifold
de-cat,
full system
enclosed filter
head work
uprated cam
hig comp pistons
standard ecu remaped and rev limit raised
road legal slicks

best mod of all is bigger brakes, this means you can go a bit further before slamming the anchors on ;)

the list is endless mate, i know what its like lol you want more power and say i will only look at spending 1k then you want more power and spend another 1k then more lol

set a target for what you want at the end and work towards that, getting mods that will compliment each other ;)