VTS bigger valve head

[adamhighfield]

I have recently brought a stage 3 head from hiflowheads but am considering upgrading it to a bigger valve head instead. Would i get much of an increase from that?
i will also be running some Piper BP300 cams, throttle bodies, kms with wideband, oversize high comp forged pistons, forged rods etc.
Also how much would it cost ruffly to upgrade, i presume they could do it on the head i already have.

[williamsvts]

probably best off phoning them. the prices are on their website.

[VTS_16v_Boy]

I know the C2 VTS has a big vavle head and will fit (so Ive been told) but its the inlet manifold and throttle body which is the problem.

Personally if you have spent all that money on a stage3 head, just fit it and enjoy it.

Im sure the gains would be very small from a stage3 head to a Big Vavle head.

[leeroybrown]

I would say change it for a stage 4 head and get the bigger exhaust valves from over in amercia

My mate is running it on his VTS and his is throttle bodied and its was done at hi flow so i would say defo change it
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[Ryan]

I know the C2 VTS has a big vavle head and will fit (so Ive been told) but its the inlet manifold and throttle body which is the problem.

Personally if you have spent all that money on a stage3 head, just fit it and enjoy it.

Im sure the gains would be very small from a stage3 head to a Big Vavle head.


c2 head needs more to get it to fit if using it on a vts bottom end from people ive spoken to who have done it. pistons need pocketing to suit the head.

IMO id rather ring qep get them to give it some nice headjobs!

and the inlet and TB is fine, as he will be getting them tapped to suit the head/head tapped to suit them.

as he said he is not using std inlet he is using ITBS

[leeroybrown]

but you cant run wild cams like 708's with a c2 head on

correct me if am wrong!!!
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[Ryan]

but you cant run wild cams like 708's with a c2 head on

correct me if am wrong!!!


you need uprated lifters and springs from what ive read.

a friend is running piper 285s (supposedly) in a hybrid engine which is a c2 head on a 206 xsi bottom end!

bic is running 290+ cams on his engine i would imagine and thats using the newer type head

[VTS_16v_Boy]

c2 head needs more to get it to fit if using it on a vts bottom end from people ive spoken to who have done it. pistons need pocketing to suit the head.

IMO id rather ring qep get them to give it some nice headjobs!

and the inlet and TB is fine, as he will be getting them tapped to suit the head/head tapped to suit them.

as he said he is not using std inlet he is using ITBS


I wasnt 100% sure but I knew somebody would set me straight.

Is it worth all the extra money? I mean how much extra power are we talking about to go from a Stage3 head that he has already got to a Big Vavle head.
How much head work if any have you had done Ryan?

[leeroybrown]

bic is a longmans head so no doubt its good!!
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[Ryan]

my head is standard, so is my bottom end.

however i have a 2nd bottom end here for cheeky rebuild once this one blows, and trying to find a bare 16v head for pennys which i can have sent to qep.

uni may fuck up my plans though lol!!!

i personally wouldnt trust hi flow heads. QEP all the way

[Ryan]

bic is a longmans head so no doubt its good!!

its still a new type pug head at the end of the day, then modified by richard longman.

[leeroybrown]

still better then your average C2 head
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[KamRacing]

the peugeot 206 1.6 had bigger valves as standard so pick up one of those for cheap. I think it bolts straight on.

If you are going for a newly ported head go for someone who will match the porting to your chosen head rather than someone who uses this stage 1,2and 3 crap. It means nothing to me. Good porting is just good porting, you want angled valve seats and if you are running an overbored block and pistons then you may need the head to match

[Ryan]

stage 1,2and 3 crap.

exactly why i dont rate hi flow.

[Ryan]

still better then your average C2 head
of course but you asked if it can be done using wild cams.

i was making a statement that it has been done usuing the cit/pug castings, even if they have been fettled.

[leeroybrown]

I have been to high flow and seen there work first hand and it aint crap

Again cos it doesnt have "QEP" on it or "GMC" then it automatically becomes crap!!!
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[Ryan]

I have been to high flow and seen there work first hand and it aint crap

Again cos it doesnt have "QEP" on it or "GMC" then it automatically becomes crap!!!

for the money i have seen far better results from qep rather than hi flow.

did i mention gmc no..

argumentative fellow arnt you.

i dont just follow like a sheep i use research to make comments on what works and why

[leeroybrown]

Am not normally argumentative just does my head in when people not saying you slate hi flow when i know for the fact they are good am in one of there cars nearly ever single week...

I just thinks its good to be different from everyone else and try new things fair enough some things work and some things dont

Just cos its crap of one car doesnt mean it will be on another

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[Ryan]

Am not normally argumentative just does my head in when people not saying you slate hi flow when i know for the fact they are good am in one of there cars nearly ever single week...

I just thinks its good to be different from everyone else and try new things fair enough some things work and some things dont

Just cos its crap of one car doesnt mean it will be on another

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as i said im just not a fan for ££££.
ive not said the work is crap, just feel theyre very expensive for the gains you get. theyre not in the LAD motorsport catagory of bullshit thankfully lol!

your in a car every single week, buts what to say that there might be more gain if someone else had fettled the head. i recomend companies based on results ive seen and value for ££££. as i try and give advice to help ppl save a few £££

[leeroybrown]

there not that expensive!
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[jpsaxo]

I agree with Ryan (as i said on SSC), wouldnt go anywhere but QEP for big valved head

[Ryan]

I agree with Ryan (as i said on SSC), wouldnt go anywhere but QEP for big valved head

cant beat a good bit of head. shame im driving to coventry for some on friday HAHA!!;)

[leeroybrown]

each to there own
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[KamRacing]

there not that expensive!

the ££ exchange rate is pretty good isnt it :y:

[leeroybrown]

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[c8james]

Ask god106 as he is running a qep big valve head.

[leeroybrown]

:afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro:
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[jpsaxo]

cant beat a good bit of head. shame im driving to coventry for some on friday HAHA!!;)

Rolf :panic:

[williamsvts]

c2 head and xsi engien arent really hybrid as they are the same engine.

dont need pistons pocketed to fit c2 head on vts block, you need shit loads skimmed off to get decent compression.

[leeroybrown]

stick with the normal head :panic: :panic: :panic:
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[adamhighfield]

ok, well what power difference would i see from changing this head i already have 4 a bigger valved head?
Basically i want to know if it would be worth it or just to kep the 1 i have at the moment.

[adamhighfield]

Also how much would i get for mine?? Hasnt been fitted yet.