Type R vs Coupe 2.2 16v

[Ryan21]

Having a toy with a fella this morning early doors on the M1, He was in a civic type R and i was in the coupe...

No really difference, ,he couldn't pull away things looked pretty even...

Was he trying? I thought a type R would leave mine for dead!

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Hmmmmm, are you sure he was really trying? Im not soo sure a 2.2 Astra would be able to have troubled a Civic TypeR.

After all the R is pushing 200bhp Im sure a 2.2 Astra puts out nowhere near as much as that, the only Astras Id say could give the R a good run for it money are the SRi Turbo / GSi.

Not saying I dont beleive you just I would have thought the R would have been able to leave you for dust.

[Karl]

top end it wouldnt suprise me if you were about level, because theres not alot to 60 between a VTS, Coupe Astra 2.2 and a Civic.
personal experience of course

[Ryan21]

It was around 6am, we both joined at jnc 33 going down the slip road, I hit 120 before the end of the slip and we we're level, mine is standard pushing 160bhp...

I also feel it should have slaughtered me, but we we're neither here or there!

[Ryan21]

top end it wouldnt suprise me if you were about level, because theres not alot to 60 between a VTS, Coupe Astra 2.2 and a Civic.
personal experience of course

It was more top end driving as i was doing 60 when we joined the slip road.

Maybe a dead start i would have had no chance!

Made me smile though lads!

[MaRiO89]

The type r would have done you tbh.. He may not have been pushing it hard or maybe just a shite driver.. My bro had a type r, would pull 160mph on the clocks!! Obviously it was abit out but they are soemthing else those type r's. Not saying the astra is slow but its not going to match a type r imo..

[andyvts98]

he will have been trying. standard type r are no good top end i can pull on them in my 52 reg vts

[Ruddy]

Ryan you massive boy racer! lol :P

[Ryan21]

he will have been trying. standard type r are no good top end i can pull on them in my 52 reg vts

2 very different opinions there, if he wasn't trying why we're we level around the 120 mark...

Rolling start at 60, both caining it, no1 really had the edge!

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Did it have much left in it at 120mph (your Astra)?

My Cougar 2.0ltr 16v touch'd 130mph on a private road alittle bit more left not much and I was running outa private road :oops:

[MaRiO89]

he will have been trying. standard type r are no good top end i can pull on them in my 52 reg vts

WTF, i dont think so mate, this has been discussed before on here, although vts's are quick, the type r is in a different league altogether..

[Ryan21]

Ryan you massive boy racer! lol :P

He was a cocky bastard, came right up my arse then pulled out, the green eyed monster kicked in and i dropped it down, the astra pulls 115mph in 4th so it was at redline down the slip...

His face was a picture, BTW He eased off first!

[Ryan21]

Did it have much left in it at 120mph (your Astra)?

My Cougar 2.0ltr 16v touch'd 130mph on a private road alittle bit more left not much and I was running outa private road :oops:

Yes mate, it does 115 in 4th at redline, i think it would do the clock TBH (140)

[VTS_16v_Boy]

he will have been trying. standard type r are no good top end i can pull on them in my 52 reg vts



:err: Sorry Im not sure I agree with that in the slightest.

Mines running a Green enclosed filter, 4-1, sports cat, single box system with Group N style back box, and stripped interior and there are things quite abit slower than typeRs I CANT keep up with and its not for NOT trying :oops:

[Ryan21]

BTW my thread was about 2.2 16v & Type Rs....not VTS'S!

[MaRiO89]

:err: Sorry Im not sure I agree with that in the slightest.

Mines running a Green enclosed filter, 4-1, sports cat, single box system with Group N style back box, and stripped interior and there are things quite abit slower than typeRs I CANT keep up with and its not for NOT trying :oops:

Agree'd mate!!

Type R's are awesome, no standard VTs will have one at any revs or speed or whatever..

[MaRiO89]

BTW my thread was about 2.2 16v & Type Rs....not VTS'S!


True, but your astra wouldnt be as quick as a type r imo..

My bro's clio 182 cup would be quicker than the astra and they aint quite as quick as a type r..

[leeroybrown]

i disagree my old saxo was running decat full ashley, gmc 4-1 and a ram air filter and i have raced a couple now and there is nothing in it till 100

my other mate on the hand runs a r6 throttle body conversation on his and all i can say is bye bye type r lol

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[Ryan21]

True, but your astra wouldnt be as quick as a type r imo..

My bro's clio 182 cup would be quicker than the astra and they aint quite as quick as a type r..

I aint on about Clio's either bro, rolling start (60) to 120 no difference between them, You have to be caining it to hit 120 in any car!

[andyvts98]

i've raced mates with gsi astras up the m'way and there's nothing in it. and type r's can't keep up

[VTS_16v_Boy]

WTF, i dont think so mate, this has been discussed before on here, although vts's are quick, the type r is in a different league altogether..

Couldnt agree more, some people think VTS's are the best thing since sliced bread, and yes they are good Very Good - For their Class!

The VTS and Type R are in completely different classes of cars and even a slightly modded S would have trouble keeping up with a R.

I mean take the other day I was coming onto the begining of the A13 London bound at Canvy and a Focus ST (New 2.5 Vovlo Turbo) cam rite up behind me. I put my foot down and saw 120mph before moving over as thats just silly speeds, I think he was suprised to see how well I took off but he had the extra ponies and legs - Like I said different class!




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[leeroybrown]

its power to weight ratio at the end day

saxo ways fooooook all and goes wellll
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[TU-Tuning]

Hes got a cup now? what happned to the FRP

[Ryan21]

i've raced mates with gsi astras up the m'way and there's nothing in it. and type r's can't keep up

Nuff said IMO, Going home now....

Feel free to continue the argument between Type R's and VTS's...

Enjoy fellas!

[leeroybrown]

they gsi is turbo'd with 200 bph

2.2 is about 150ish aint it

big difference
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[Foggy]

Sorry, but sticking my 10 pence worth in, isn't there a 70 MPH limit in the UK?

[leeroybrown]

not when you on a private road ;) ;)
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[Vinny_VSX]

Bare in mind the Civic Type R suffers from a fair bit of transmission loss. But not enough, for a astra to keep up with it lol

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Back slightly on topic

Standard both out the box from a standing start I feel the R would have it.
On a rolling start although there maynot be much in it I still think the extra say 20bhp between the 2.2 Astra 160bhp and the 2.0 R around the 180bhp would have it.

Id say the Civic would be lighter than the Astra too, I reckon we need Mr Chris on this thread as he's got a Astra Turbo and he'll be able to shead some expert light on the matter.

Is he online at present?

[MaRiO89]

TBH chaps some of you are talking about modified VTS's, do the same to the type r and bye bye!! Standard VTS against a type r and you'll get beat.

These threads do my head in TBH!! I just cant see how people think that a 1.6 that revs to 7250rpm and produces 120bhp is going to touch a type r which has 6 forward gears so nice close ratio's, revs to 8500rpm and produces 200bhp when its there..

As for the astra against a type r, not a chance imo. Must have been a shite driver tbh..

[MaRiO89]

Hes got a cup now? what happned to the FRP

Wasn't quick enough so has a blue clio cup! lol.

[VTS_16v_Boy]

not when you on a private road ;) ;)

hehehehe :clapping:

[Foggy]

not when you on a private road ;) ;)

Sure someone mentioned the M1 earlier. May have misread the post though :P

[MaRiO89]

VTS's are quick for their class, like all the saxo's are, but not going to be as quick as a type r, thats the end of it!! lol.

[Vinny_VSX]

I kept up with a Civic type R in my 1.4....

Ok you got me, I was behind one in a 30 zone and we were both doing 30. Happy now? :P

[leeroybrown]

to be honest i much prefer the 172 cup over a type r, has anyone actually joined the type r owners club, i thought a saxo was bad for faults but bloody hell i was wrong type r's have more problems for example

Dodgy steerting racks
Dody gearboxs
Rear camber problems
shit paint problems
Dealer problems

Stick with french i say

Sorry changing the topic completely lol
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[TU-Tuning]

I could have a type r in second gear

[MaRiO89]

I kept up with a Civic type R in my 1.4....

Ok you got me, I was behind one in a 30 zone and we were both doing 30. Happy now? :P

I could have a type r in second gear


LOL..:p

[Vinny_VSX]

I could have a type r in second gear

I didn't think a gear box was big enough for a civic type R to fit into?

[MaRiO89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdOs3iNp-4

Just chill out chaps....

[Vinny_VSX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdOs3iNp-4

Just chill out chaps....

Top tune James

[Foggy]

I know Honda's official crash test dummy.

Used to navigate for him in an old Civic Type R!!!!

[MaRiO89]

Top tune James

i know, seems to have chilled everyone out, my work here is done.. :)

[Ruddy]

JEASUS i leave this thread for 2 minutes and theres 30 replys! lol

Ryan you should of followed him and pulled the fooker out of his car and stamped on his head for being a twat. lol. Pure Ry Rage! Hahaha

*ASW* Accepting that job offer today bud :P

[Vinny_VSX]

Completely off topic - But how comes everyone has loads of rep and I have 1? Does it have anything to do with post count? :S

[MaRiO89]

Completely off topic - But how comes everyone has loads of rep and I have 1? Does it have anything to do with post count? :S

lol, no. People leave yopu rep if you help them out or whatever.. :)

[leeroybrown]

ha ha they you go i have give you some rep!!
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[Vinny_VSX]

lol, no. People leave yopu rep if you help them out or whatever.. :)

Ahhhh gotcha.

Hmmmm.... Who can I help today then ???

Ooo got it -

:afro: <<< Dude you need a hair cut. Now rep me biatch :)

[MaRiO89]

LOL!!!

[TU-Tuning]

This is blatently gettin locked

[Vinny_VSX]

Haha probally.

[MaRiO89]

So it should, people shouldnt talk so much rubbish imo!!

[TU-Tuning]

Some guy said he could have a furio in his VTS using only second gear. Sums up what some, please see i said some lol, VTS owners think about S's, that they have some kind of godly power

[Vinny_VSX]

It is almost like when people say their VTR isn't much slower than a VTS. That makes me chuckle

[TU-Tuning]

And that VTRs are fast. Theyre really not. My contreversial ranting over lol

[Vinny_VSX]

VTR's are nippy imo. I have raced a few up to 60 and I can keep up with them up to about 50.

[Vinny_VSX]

ha ha they you go i have give you some rep!!

Haha cheers mate. Check your control pannel ;)

[Ruddy]

ma veeee teeee arrrrr can cain uh s2000 innit kept up wi it. reckun if a tek me subs out id of done it innit

Typical VTR boy racer statement. Makes me chuckle. Yes, i do own and drive one.

[Vinny_VSX]

Ruddy, I didn't understand a single word you said in the first part. Haha, shows how disconnected I am from all this chav and text chat

[Ruddy]

Haha that ^ mate is a typical barnsley vtr driving chav.

What the fudge is a saxo vsx anyway?

[MaRiO89]

its a 1400 saxo that looks like a 1.1..

Sleeper made by citroen! :)

[Karl]

id of thought 182s outperform CTR in say a 0-100 sprint

[MaRiO89]

no, they have the same power to weight ratio, but the vtech gives the CTR the edge..

My bro had one and my mate has a 182, small drag race to 70 or so and the CTR pulled a car length or two..

At this point my 1400 was way out infront!! ;)

[leeroybrown]

At this point my 1400 was way out infront!!

PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT A SUPPPPPPER DOPPPPPPPPPPPPPER FAST AS FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK 1400 AND I WILL TRADER MY XSARA VTS IN FOR ONE


:clapping: :p :p :p :P
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[MaRiO89]

PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU GOT A SUPPPPPPER DOPPPPPPPPPPPPPER FAST AS FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK 1400 AND I WILL TRADER MY XSARA VTS IN FOR ONE


:clapping: :p :p :p :P

lol..

I just slagged my westy. :)

I didnt really beat em. :(

[leeroybrown]

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[MaRiO89]

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

:p

i had my own back on a roundabout though..

Good old saxo! :y:

[leeroybrown]

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[MaRiO89]

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lol, whats the deal with all the smilies?!

:y:

[leeroybrown]

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[AdamW]

***Sarcasm***

VTS's will easily smoke Civic Type R's and any other car on the road


***Sarcasm***

[leeroybrown]

Damm right

LONG LIVE THE KING!!!!!!

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[Vinny_VSX]

Haha that ^ mate is a typical barnsley vtr driving chav.

What the fudge is a saxo vsx anyway?

Lol, tis a crazy.

Well a saxo 1.4 VSX, is a pure bred sleeper built by citroen. The VSX stands for Vince's saXo

Oh what they hey, I will let you in on a little secret. Did you know that citroen got the names VTR and VTS from the name vince. Let me show you -

VTR = Vince's Tasty Ride or Rizzle depending if your from Barnsley ;)

and last but not least

VTS (my favourite one) Vince's Tasty Saxo.

Coincidence? I think not

:P

[TheMadSaxo]

No chance.

If you kept up with a Type R there's something wrong there. Car specs, road tests, anything you want will tell you that. Type R is LOADS quicker.

2.2 Coupe is no quicker than a Vts through the gears.

[TheMadSaxo]

By the way, 160bhp as standard? Wtf? This is way up on the standard 2.2

[samcook]

LOL at this thread

[Perky]

By the way, 160bhp as standard? Wtf? This is way up on the standard 2.2

i have raced time and time again a 2.2 astra in my mates standard 106 xsi... and theres nothing in it on a straight...... get to a corner... bye bye astra

[MaRiO89]

i have raced time and time again a 2.2 astra in my mates standard 106 xsi... and theres nothing in it on a straight...... get to a corner... bye bye astra


1.4 8v!! :):):):) :y:

[stevenet15]

james that pic of your avitar is that on your car? i once saw a beaten up nover with a big sticker on the back saying "you jsut been n'ova taken" lmao

[MaRiO89]

james that pic of your avitar is that on your car? i once saw a beaten up nover with a big sticker on the back saying "you jsut been n'ova taken" lmao


LOL, yeah its on my car.. Its really small tbh, have to be really close to see it..quite like little phrases like that..:oops: :oops:

[stevenet15]

LOL, yeah its on my car.. Its really small tbh, have to be really close to see it..quite like little phrases like that..:oops: :oops:

lol yeah i seen a few funny ones, there was a metro at mk that i saw once it was totally standard but had a huge vinal sticker on the back window saying "small penis, big prick" lol and another time at work a mercedes came in that belonged to a bloke that had cheated on his wife so she spray painted wanker and cheater all over it and then filled the interir with raw fish lol

[MaRiO89]

lol yeah i seen a few funny ones, there was a metro at mk that i saw once it was totally standard but had a huge vinal sticker on the back window saying "small penis, big prick" lol and another time at work a mercedes came in that belonged to a bloke that had cheated on his wife so she spray painted wanker and cheater all over it and then filled the interir with raw fish lol


LOL, mine aint as bad as those thank god!

Might get another one done saying "just a 1400.." then dispose of the current one..

My mates hate the "you've been saxo'd" thing! haha...

I love it!:p

[boz]

i very much doubt an astra 2.2 coupe would beat or keep up with a civic type r, i have been a passenger in both and they are worlds apart.
no offence mate, but i think you raced with someone who didnt like the idea of driving on a motor way at 120mph and dropped his ass and backed off. i would think the astra turbo would be able to keep up.

as for the vts vs type r saga: my modded mk2 vts can keep up with my mates type r till 60 - 70mph then he is off, aint no way i can catch him.
the type r power is far greater than the vts and he just leaves me. same goes for the clio cups, they leave after 70ish too.

may be a different story if your running cams and TB's, but a standard vts will not push a type r or clio 182 etc along the road.

unless of coarse the person driving the type r is a pussy lol

[Foggy]

Is this tread still rolling along?

James, on the back of my Pulsar GTiR, I had:

The car in front of the car in front is a Nissan! :p :p

(Toyota ran a big series of adverts claiming that the car in front was a Toyota!)

[MaRiO89]

Is this tread still rolling along?

James, on the back of my Pulsar GTiR, I had:

The car in front of the car in front is a Nissan! :p :p

(Toyota ran a big series of adverts claiming that the car in front was a Toyota!)


LOL, yeah i saw those adverts!! :)

[Karl]

I just Nova Dosed.

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Am I really seeing rite?

Has it really taken 5pages (so far) to work out that a 2.2 Astra is no match for a Civic Type R - Which I think I stated on the first page :p

Why not just listen to me fools lol

hehehehehe

[MaRiO89]

Am I really seeing rite?

Has it really taken 5pages (so far) to work out that a 2.2 Astra is no match for a Civic Type R - Which I think I stated on the first page :p

Why not just listen to me fools lol

hehehehehe

I also said that on my first post on this thread iirc..

People dont listen to me or you!! Whats this world coming too! :panic: :panic:

;)

[VTS_16v_Boy]

I also said that on my first post on this thread iirc..

People dont listen to me or you!! Whats this world coming too! :panic: :panic:

;)



Tell me about it - I dont know, Kids these days lol

[MaRiO89]

haha..

True

[leeroybrown]

next will have someome saying that they kept with a skyline gtr in the scoda felica lol
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[KamRacing]

well actually.........




now seriously we could have witnessed a sad case of a type s badged up as a type R. I actually did see one for sale ages ago. It appealed less than Rooney's taste in hookers

[VTS_16v_Boy]

well actually.........




now seriously we could have witnessed a sad case of a type s badged up as a type R. I actually did see one for sale ages ago. It appealed less than Rooney's taste in hookers


lol

hehehehe, Oh wait a minute - Ive done that in the past dont get too nasty :oops:

I done a XR3i up like an RSturbo Shhhhhhh dont tell anybody!


On a slightly different note - Is it worth asking a Mod to lock this thread, otherwise it could be floating about for ages.