1.4 power

[saxoboyo]

just wondreing how much power is possible from the 1.4 engine apparently has 75 is this due to a restriction cos 1.2 16v corsas have like 90 same as vtr?? i mean i would like to get the power up a little, thats why i got the 1.4

any help?

[SaxoAL]

mines got Custom exhausts , pipercross induction kit, custom decat pipe goin on on thurs, and what looks to me as a VTS manifold, n its pretty nippy. I will be getting alot done to it soon aswell. Especially a new BMC CDA enclosed induction kit for a bit more power. Then its gas flowed head, new manifold, ported n polished valves, to release a bit more power. So should all be running a lot more power soon !

[saxoboyo]

yeh sounds great im thinking of maybe getting a vts engine put in mine but i dunno yet thats a little too expensive on the insurance side lol

what sort of body kit you gonna get or got

[GSMotorsport]

I believe GMC built a super charged Saxo which was silly fast and beat VTS's in the 0-60 and 0-10 dash. So i believe that if you are wishing to spend some money, then its not a bad engine.

If you dont want to spend that much but just upgrade bits and pieces then you can still squeeze out that bit more easily

[Krissy_Bufton]

m8, as u have practically the same engine as me... i think u COULD get around 100bhp (may be difficult)

but with a supersprint system (de-cat) (includes manifold, centre section, de-cat and rear silencer)
fast road cams, and superchip it COULD be possible!

a fast road cam, can give u 10bhp extra!!
superchip 6bhp!
full system de-cat and manifold up to 10bhp (possibly?)

which would be more than enuff

for that u would be lookin to pay AROUND (rough estimate) around about £1000 (altho im not 100% sure on prices)

i guess £1000 for 25bhp is abit steep but worth it over the long run!

[jamesg88]

well you if you want just that little bit more power just add a enclosed induction kit, full exhaust system and manifolds etc...

but if you really want significant power for the amount of money you would spend on your 1.4 it makes sense to drop a vts engine in it or even a vtr engine in if your worried about insurnace.

[Craig]

mines running about 80brake now

[jamesg88]

what you got craig ?

[Craig]

pipercross induction kit

[jamesg88]

okays matey

[Craig]

what u running?

[saxoboyo]

yeh how much does the new engine effect the insurance cos i heard its like more than it normally would cos its classed as a modification not a standered feature like???

do yah now what i mean guys?

[Krissy_Bufton]

mines running about 80brake now

ahem!

judging by wot u just said... u CANNOT gain 5bhp from just adding a pipercross induction kit! sorry but LMAO!

u wont have gained anything from a standard pipercross induction kit, only a lil more response when u put ur foot down and some noise! u can only REALLY gain a slight bit of power with an enclosed induction kit! so ur figure of 80bhp is very wrong im afraid!


im guessing by a pipercross induction kit, u mean the chrome ait filter that just hangs in ur engine yes?
well with this, as its far back in ur engine bay, all it is doing is sucking in HOT air! which makes it worse than ur standard air box!

[SaxoAL]

lol, exactly , thats why im changing my pipercross for a BMC

[jamesg88]

well i have a vtr with a full scorpion exhaust system with 4 exits lol and a BMC enclosed induction kit smileys/smiley4.gif

thats it for power for me as i aint really bothered about too much power just a nice tug here and there really smileys/smiley17.gif

[Smithy]

just a nice tug here and there really smileys/smiley17.gif


smileys/smiley5.gif Ummmmmm! What you do in your car is your own business! smileys/smiley4.gif

Saxoboyo, you'll usually find that it would cost more to insure a car with an engine transplant i.e vtr/s into furio, than it would to insure an original vtr/s. Major modification an all that! smileys/smiley4.gif

[jamesg88]

dirty dirty boy now see taking simple things in a naughty way tut tut smileys/smiley17.gif

[Craig]

wel i am after a bmc

[jamesg88]

yea there great mate smileys/smiley4.gif

[Craig]

im saving kinda hard wen u have a g/f to fund lolsmileys/smiley17.gif

[jamesg88]

lol

yea got to treat her good after all you love her more than life in itself smileys/smiley17.gif

[saxoboyo]

pah i know the feeling grrrrr i mean mines obsessed with money i hate it, lol it drives me round the bend so to speak lol

im also after a bmc they sound to be a real shithot induction i heard allot of people got em

oh and thnx for the advice on the transplant i thought it would cost alot more, damn i hate being a young and high risk driver as they would call me those bastards lol, it's all you oldies faults cos when you was young you all had r5 turbos and cossies lmao and rapped em round lamposts and trees heheh smileys/smiley19.gif smileys/smiley11.gif

[Franki]

oy ya little fucker i'm his friggin g/f not all gilfriends r like yours!!! i ask for fuck all of him!!! girls dont always need you to spend loads of money on them just treat em ryt and they will like you plus you get to keep a bit more cash hehe

[Scott]

LOL

[Franki]

cheers

[saxoboyo]

hmmmmmmmm smileys/smiley5.gif no need to get mad lol smileys/smiley3.gif

i need money money money in a rich mans world dum de dum doo can't wait to start work on my car smileys/smiley17.gif it's gonna be great woo hoo

[Franki]

i wasn't i was jus sayin not all girls are like urs!

[saxoboyo]

umm well i know that lol smileys/smiley5.gif

[Franki]

wots that meanin how long u been with her?

[winder]

im back. the 1.2 16v corsa has only got 75bhp mate not 90bhp. i think the old 1.4 16v corsa had 90bhp. smileys/smiley2.gif

[saxoboyo]

yeh thats the one i was on bout

it sucks that we get crappy power from bigger engine if i had known i would have just got summit else with a smaler engine thats better on petrol hehe.

joking i love my saxo but i just think 75hp from a 1.4 is kinda lame, guess its just the french being well... french

[SaxoAL]

yeh , thats what pissed me of aswell. still well nippy tho. I race my mates on the motorway , n ones got an old 2litre BM

[Craig]

yhe it annoys me that its only a an 8v

[Andyt]

if it was 16v the insurance would be higher though. Probably the same as the vtr.

[mattais]

ok guys,theres alot of banter on this thread, can someone help? ive got a 1.4 furio as well, sick of being left behind by my mates corsa sri (pipercross and exhaust system) and ideas what i could do to get the upperhand?!

all ive really looked at is an induction kit, and im getting a magnex backbox on this wednesday.

Cheers

[SaxoAL]

full exhaust system with decat , 4-2-1 manifold, BMC or green enclosed induction kit.
All that will give a a bit of power. Without going to mad ie: camschip, turbo etc!

Also it might be an idea to start stripping the bitso the car u dont need, like rear seats etc.

[mattais]

Excellent! cheers for the help. anyone have any idea of the prices for some of this stuff off the top of their heads, and the best places to get them from before i go try look it all up?!

do you have to buy a closed induction kit for the furio (like you have to with normal induction kits), or will they fit all saxos?

ideally i would like to buy it all and have a mechanic put it straight in, so if anyone knows if il need any extras to fit all of the above to a furio, please let me know!

Cheers

[SaxoAL]

well BMC said that i needed a 90 degree bend tube to attatch the enclosed filter , but this was only an extra £10 , they look it up under you particular vehicle, but i think some fit both VTR and furio/westcoast. i had custom exhaust system with decat for about £400, but that was a little while ago now. manifolds can sell for between 2 as 4 hundred pounds. Find youself a powerflow dealer near you if u want a custom exhaust. GMC for the manifold. We sell the BMC's at halfords, but ask Gaz at GSMotorsport (PM him) for quote on one for yours as i think he has an offer on at the mo.

[mattais]

cheers for that mate. this may be a silly question but when taking of the cat, how can you make your car pass MOT?

[SaxoAL]

debateable to be honest mate, if you know some1 in the trade who can overlook it ?
Or an unobservant MOT tester!
or just remove the decat pipe and put the cat back on every year for the MOT. Not that hard to do.

[mattais]

is this what id be looking for?

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?c=BMCFILTERS&p=SXOCDA70130 &a=i

[Deano1983]

yes that is wot u want mate!!

Wot corsa has your mate got? 1.4 sri??

[mattais]

yeah, its tuned, has a pipercross induction kit and full exhaust system and its well nippy

[saxoracer]

i only have a 1.1 smileys/smiley13.gif

[Andyt]

could be worse smileys/smiley2.gif

[saxoracer]

how? oooh dont tell me i kno....it could not be a saxo that would be worse.....im a learner anyway so i have an excuse...dont i??? smileys/smiley9.gif

[Andyt]

hehe i had a 1.0l L reg polo for my first car.

[saxoracer]

oh dear...im so sorry...

[Andyt]

hey, u got 2 start somewhere...just glad i got my smart wee car now.

[saxoracer]

yeah that is tru..bad habits are fun!

[Andyt]

bad habits??

[saxoracer]

yeah my friends at work have got me doin handbrake turns an burnouts in a 1.0l micra...believe me its possible in a 1.0l...

[Andyt]

tut tut, i think we've all done that sort of shit at 1 point...1.0l micra or not. smileys/flamed.gif

[saxoracer]

yeah its so funny...one of the greatest things to do is to go to an airfield jack up the back wheels an put bread baskets under them handbrake on and front wheel drive car and have slidin fun..wow the things we do when we are young...wait i am young..lol...i really am mentally retarded

[Andyt]

i can only imagine the hilarity..... smileys/smiley29.gif hehehe

[Drago]

100bhp is possible with the 1.4 block! My westy was running 97.5bhp and 110lbft of torque! To get that sort of power i was using a piper 285 cam,dastek,gmc 4-1 manifold,gmc 4.5bar fpr,de-cat and full exhaust! I would have hit 100bhp if i had got the head port polished when the cam was fitted but i chose not to! smileys/smiley13.gif But it just shows its possible without the use of t/c,s/c or throttle bodies! smileys/smiley2.gif

[SaxoAL]

smileys/smiley17.gif well sed buddy , was that at the wheels??

[Scott]

the 1.4 block is capable of 250bhp, as gmc proved with the taiwanese race car, running super charger and throttle bodies

[SaxoAL]

smileys/smiley17.gif smileys/smiley17.gif hehe
just a bit more than mine then ....

[GreenSaxo]

scott.. i thought the taiwanese car had 150bhp.. im sure that wat it says on gmc's homepage smileys/smiley17.gif

[Scott]

true i always heard it was 250 at the fly, but 150 at the wheels from a 1.4 block is fucking impressive none the lesssmileys/smiley17.gif

[GreenSaxo]

aye smileys/smiley17.gif