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accrombie 7th May 2007 18:08

130 bhp standard
 
has any 1 herd of a standard 130 bhp vts, if so whats the difference and how can u tell

Predator_R32 7th May 2007 18:12

no all the VTS models came with a 120 bhp engine :y:

well some models abroad are called a VTS but have a 1.4 16 valve engine

gibs-rallye 7th May 2007 18:12

it doesnt excist! has been discussed many times before

babers 7th May 2007 18:12

yes we all now about the wonderful 130bhp vts witch is not real

Tammy_VTS 7th May 2007 18:17

hahahaha!!! think there should be a new section on the forum :

Saxo VTS 130bhp queries!!!

liam_b 7th May 2007 18:22

its a myth as i said in the other thread you asked in

S34MER 7th May 2007 18:26

Oh my days, not this again!! hahaha

LBD!! lol

believe Bullit has one actually! :p

TheMadSaxo 7th May 2007 18:42

Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.

However, have a read of this.......

"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.

It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.

All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"

S34MER 7th May 2007 18:48

its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....

1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate! ;)

Scott 7th May 2007 18:50

there was a difference in the head castings, though theres no proof or official line from citroen about any increase in power thats fact.

accrombie 7th May 2007 18:54

in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard

accrombie 7th May 2007 18:54

in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard

S34MER 7th May 2007 18:57

we got it the first time mate :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER (Post 1134034)
believe Bullit has one actually! :p

already told you that mate!! but his is a one off limited edition 130bhp VTS ;)

TheMadSaxo 7th May 2007 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER (Post 1134085)
its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....

1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate! ;)

Was posted on this forum by a guy called Gabbastard the last time we discussed it and yes, you're right, it could be complete bollox for all I know!! ;)

The only certain thing is that Citroen never sold/marketed what you would call a 130bhp standard Vts.

Toad 7th May 2007 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadSaxo (Post 1134071)
Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.

However, have a read of this.......

"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.

It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.

All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"



I don't know about all that... But here's something that IS a fact. Wayne Schofield from Chipwizards has been mapping 106/VTS's for a fair few years. What he's noticed is that the older lumps (the ones without the EGR valve) actually make on average 5bhp more from the same camshaft upgrade and re-map compared to the newer models. This is fact, and has always been the case. The only difference they know of is the EGR valve, but it seems odd that this would be the root of the cause.

belly_VTS 7th May 2007 20:15

the older ones also have a single plug ecu, people reckon that has something to do with older vts slightly faster aswell

Ryan 7th May 2007 20:21

wall and head.........

MaRiO89 7th May 2007 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 (Post 1134336)
wall and head.........

Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..:p

DevilDamo 7th May 2007 21:59

You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models :(

:n:

Predator_R32 7th May 2007 22:07

your not all that special damo :p bet your gutted eh :)


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