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7th May 2007, 18:08
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130 bhp standard
has any 1 herd of a standard 130 bhp vts, if so whats the difference and how can u tell
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7th May 2007, 18:12
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no all the VTS models came with a 120 bhp engine 
well some models abroad are called a VTS but have a 1.4 16 valve engine
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7th May 2007, 18:12
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it doesnt excist! has been discussed many times before
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7th May 2007, 18:12
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yes we all now about the wonderful 130bhp vts witch is not real
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7th May 2007, 18:17
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hahahaha!!! think there should be a new section on the forum :
Saxo VTS 130bhp queries!!!
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7th May 2007, 18:22
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its a myth as i said in the other thread you asked in
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7th May 2007, 18:26
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Oh my days, not this again!! hahaha
LBD!! lol
believe Bullit has one actually! 
Last edited by S34MER; 7th May 2007 at 18:29.
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7th May 2007, 18:42
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Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.
However, have a read of this.......
"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.
It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.
All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"
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7th May 2007, 18:48
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its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....
1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate!
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7th May 2007, 18:50
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there was a difference in the head castings, though theres no proof or official line from citroen about any increase in power thats fact.
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7th May 2007, 18:54
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in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard
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7th May 2007, 18:54
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in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard
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7th May 2007, 18:57
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we got it the first time mate 
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Originally Posted by S34MER
believe Bullit has one actually! |
already told you that mate!! but his is a one off limited edition 130bhp VTS
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7th May 2007, 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S34MER
its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....
1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate! |
Was posted on this forum by a guy called Gabbastard the last time we discussed it and yes, you're right, it could be complete bollox for all I know!!
The only certain thing is that Citroen never sold/marketed what you would call a 130bhp standard Vts.
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7th May 2007, 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMadSaxo
Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.
However, have a read of this.......
"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.
It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.
All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"
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I don't know about all that... But here's something that IS a fact. Wayne Schofield from Chipwizards has been mapping 106/VTS's for a fair few years. What he's noticed is that the older lumps (the ones without the EGR valve) actually make on average 5bhp more from the same camshaft upgrade and re-map compared to the newer models. This is fact, and has always been the case. The only difference they know of is the EGR valve, but it seems odd that this would be the root of the cause.
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7th May 2007, 20:15
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the older ones also have a single plug ecu, people reckon that has something to do with older vts slightly faster aswell
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7th May 2007, 20:21
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wall and head.........
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7th May 2007, 20:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85
wall and head.........
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Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..
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7th May 2007, 21:59
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You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models 
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7th May 2007, 22:07
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your not all that special damo bet your gutted eh 
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