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Toby-VTR 12th November 2007 17:33

power figures FAQ! advise wanted.
 
right im looking at performance upgrades and want to know what realistic power + performace figures i will reach from following mods, also what is the price of a remap?

eccosse carbon induction (scoop style)
cams
adjustable pulleys
remap
4-2-1 manifold with decat and no centre silencer

start car is 98bhp saxo VTR. thanks Toby

AliC 12th November 2007 17:39

Really it all depends on the cam's m8, the rest of the breather mod's arent going to really take effect until the cams are in and its been mapped!

Toby-VTR 12th November 2007 17:51

think there kent 708's? not sure any help? iv been trying to find out,

smearsvtr 12th November 2007 18:00

didn't think they did a 708 profile for the vtr and by the way cam is the correct term when it comes to vtr as it only has 1 m8 ;) by the way i have heard that the 285 profile is good for a vtr try qep as they deal with cat cams which i hear many good things about

Toby-VTR 12th November 2007 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by smearsvtr (Post 1613672)
didn't think they did a 708 profile for the vtr and by the way cam is the correct term when it comes to vtr as it only has 1 m8 ;) by the way i have heard that the 285 profile is good for a vtr try qep as they deal with cat cams which i hear many good things about

yeh i know my stuff when it comes to mechanics, 8V single CAM lol no its a specific cam im being offered, just trying to find out.

can anybody give me a ballpark figure with said mods?

Toby-VTR 12th November 2007 18:42

ok its a kent cam and pulley kit, pt 40 266 duration. anybody want to explain this to me?

Toby-VTR 13th November 2007 15:02

nobody??

Toby-VTR 13th November 2007 21:37

BUMP!!

AXracing 13th November 2007 22:01

Depends how well its done. But as its a late engines the original valve springs, rockers and ECU are very limiting so don’t expect miracles. You could always go for a full cam kit with springs, caps, rockers, pully and cam. That will open you up to much greater gains than just the cam. £400 plus for a good map as well.

Toby-VTR 14th November 2007 13:46

yeh i wasnt expecting it to be masssive maybe around the 125bhp mark with all the work done?

samcook 14th November 2007 13:51

would be more power per pounds if you stuck a vts engine in mate

Toby-VTR 14th November 2007 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by samcook (Post 1618749)
would be more power per pounds if you stuck a vts engine in mate

going to be looking at around 2k to drop in a VTS PROPERLY!
when all this will cost around 1k and should give same if not better performance.

leeds106 19th November 2007 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby-VTR (Post 1618731)
yeh i wasnt expecting it to be masssive maybe around the 125bhp mark with all the work done?




with

gmc 4-1 manifold
pugsport
filter
kent 266 cam


my quiky which is running a 98bh vtr engine made 124.5 bhp a month ago



thats without a remap also and it runs perfectly fine and idles fine once warmed up

GroomGTI 19th November 2007 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeds106 (Post 1631159)
with

gmc 4-1 manifold
pugsport
filter
kent 266 cam


my quiky which is running a 98bh vtr engine made 124.5 bhp a month ago



thats without a remap also and it runs perfectly fine and idles fine once warmed up

what dose your car idle at warmed up?

Quick 19th November 2007 15:59

Vtr with 120bhp won't be as quick as a stock Vts.
The vtr box is much longer!

leeds106 19th November 2007 15:59

well dials say 1k but on diagnostic machine is was showing just under



tends to touch about 1800rpm for a few secs and then slowly drops but it idles about 1300rpm till it warms up but after a few mins its perfectly fine

leeds106 19th November 2007 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick (Post 1631207)
Vtr with 120bhp won't be as quick as a stock Vts.
The vtr box is much longer!

see i say thats bollox cos i fine my vtr box perfectly fine in all gears



and till 80mph mine will stick by a vts pretty damn well

GroomGTI 19th November 2007 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeds106 (Post 1631209)
well dials say 1k but on diagnostic machine is was showing just under



tends to touch about 1800rpm for a few secs and then slowly drops but it idles about 1300rpm till it warms up but after a few mins its perfectly fine

Mine idles like below the 1k mark:n:

leeds106 19th November 2007 16:09

it should do so far as i know they idle at about 850k




you can also fit a 285 cam with a remap and it will run as smooth as it did with standard cam in im told by a good source


think in new year im going for the 285 and remap so im hopeful of hitting around the 140bhp mark :)

SNewham 19th November 2007 16:10

I'm hoping to get around 130BHP with the same mods including headwork and a remap when I get my VTR engine in.


scott


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